darkpink

Posts

162

Reactions

70

Joined

May 31, 2011

Points

28

Dec 9, 2011

#1

Fungus Gnats/Gnat Larve/Root aphids what are these?

Need some help with diagnosis and what to do to get rid of them. there deffinatly fuken stuff up.

symptoms: stunted growth, clawed fan leaves over all health looks bad, plants looking defficient and retarded.

white flaky build up on top the coco.

nothing serious on my sticky traps in weeks. i got just one black gnat or somthin, thats it.

im not seeing anything flying around

i tried need oil and soap. doesnt do anything.

took one plant that died, flushed the pot and noticed very very tiny white things floating up to the top of the coco, water drains and they go back inside the coco. these are very small you really gotta be looking for them specificly to notice them. i took these pics with my regular digital camera using a 60x microscope.

i pulled one out using tweezers. it crawled around then started to jump around, inch or so. Its very hard to see these with the naked eye.

 

Attachments

• fungus-gnatsgnatroot-aphids-larve-what-are-these.jpg

  55 KB · Views: 202
• fungus-gnatsgnatroot-aphids-larve-what-are-these-2.jpg

  52.9 KB · Views: 168
• fungus-gnatsgnatroot-aphids-larve-what-are-these-3.jpg

  54.3 KB · Views: 191
• fungus-gnatsgnatroot-aphids-larve-what-are-these-4.jpg

  54.5 KB · Views: 156
• fungus-gnatsgnatroot-aphids-larve-what-are-these-5.jpg

  56.9 KB · Views: 159
• fungus-gnatsgnatroot-aphids-larve-what-are-these-6.jpg

  57.2 KB · Views: 150

D

dank_

Posts

144

Reactions

7

Joined

Dec 15, 2010

Dec 9, 2011

#2

I think those are springtails:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springtail

I read they're harmless - I do not believe that. I only had them when I was growing in soil. I got rid them when I finally realized that dirt doesn't belong in the house.

 

darkpink

Posts

162

Reactions

70

Joined

May 31, 2011

Points

28

Dec 9, 2011

#3

went in the tent and pulled a curled leaf when lights were off and put it under the 60-100 x microscope. i dont see anything moving around on the leaves under the scope just these little white milky balls here and there. these you cannot see with the naked eye, you need a microscope to see these. they all look the same i dont see any that look like they have hactched. im guessing these could be an egg or maybee just some left over neem spray because i treat everything before anything enters the flower tent. not sure what it is. this was on the underside of a large fan leaf.

the last 3 pics are at 60x, first pics are at 100x.

 

Attachments

• SAM_1596.JPG

  120.1 KB · Views: 139
• SAM_1598.JPG

  112.5 KB · Views: 137
• SAM_1599.JPG

  123.4 KB · Views: 131
• SAM_1600.JPG

  72.5 KB · Views: 129
• SAM_1601.JPG

  107.5 KB · Views: 131
• SAM_1602.JPG

  100.3 KB · Views: 133

I

ibTheMan

Posts

1,571

Reactions

79

Joined

Nov 5, 2010

Points

36

Dec 9, 2011

#4

Bro those could be Russit mite! you better hope there not, i think springtails grow in the dirt not on the leaves.

 

I

ibTheMan

Posts

1,571

Reactions

79

Joined

Nov 5, 2010

Points

36

Dec 9, 2011

#5

They look like Russit Mites to me, look in my link^.

if they are, ditch that stuff super quick!!!!! they eat the THC, for real!

 

darkpink

Posts

162

Reactions

70

Joined

May 31, 2011

Points

28

Dec 9, 2011

#6

looks like there are alot of species. those dont look like mine, evolution is a motha fuka though.lol

these diffinatly tear your harvest to pieces. i have half my tent 2-4 weeks near the end and just by looking at the flowers they are 75% smaller, i know my strains and what they should look like by now, if anyone thinks these are harmless then there missing out on large yields, never had anything like this before.

plants start to show signs of sickness/infection about the second week of flower. i put 18 plants in 2 weeks or so ago and only 15 remaining now, these are healthy plants too, ive neverr had a plant just die when placed in the flower tent and never had any white crusty stuff on top the coco until now.

dank_ said:

I think those are springtails:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springtail

I read they're harmless - I do not believe that. I only had them when I was growing in soil. I got rid them when I finally realized that dirt doesn't belong in the house.

Click to expand...

 

darkpink

Posts

162

Reactions

70

Joined

May 31, 2011

Points

28

Dec 9, 2011

#7

not sure, doesnt look anything like russit mites from wiki picture here and that photo is 1,200x
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russet_mite

i dont see any bugs on the leaves just dirt only.

kinda looks like thrip larvae here from the sick plant guide



also looks like this thred here

ibTheMan said:

They look like Russit Mites to me, look in my link^.

if they are, ditch that stuff super quick!!!!! they eat the THC, for real!

Click to expand...

 

darkpink

Posts

162

Reactions

70

Joined

May 31, 2011

Points

28

Dec 9, 2011

#8

could be springtail click this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Isotoma_Habitus.jpg

im gonna take some more pics of diefferent views and post

can you rid these critters?

 

darkpink

Posts

162

Reactions

70

Joined

May 31, 2011

Points

28

Dec 9, 2011

#9

anyone ever use this?

 

M

moodster

Posts

363

Reactions

65

Joined

Dec 23, 2009

Points

28

Dec 9, 2011

#10

springtails m8 and they are benefical i think i get them all the time in coco:party0044:

 

freegrow

Supporter

Premium Member

Posts

718

Reactions

226

Joined

Sep 13, 2010

Points

43

Dec 15, 2011

#11

moodster said:

springtails m8 and they are benefical i think i get them all the time in coco:party0044:

Click to expand...

nailed it springtails in the pic of insect and they eat bad things in your soil or coco keep them just dont let them get to numerous

are you sure the white spots arnt the stomata ? if you cant see them with naked eye I bet thats what they are