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Thanks!!!Looks amazing so far.
How many nodes up did you top the one? Just take it slow and easy, make them comfortable.
I only use the paper towel method, 95% success rates. Damp paper towel, placed in a baggie, set on my snakes cage, 1-3 days boom.
honestly have a tough time knowing how to LST or what my topping is doing for the plants because I am having trouble conceptualizing where my bud sites will be. A few folks on here posted some really helpful videos on where I would locate bud sites, but I think for it to click in my brain I need to see it on my plants.
That would be awesome if you could take some pics! I definitely need all the help I can get. I feel like my LST was pretty random..."ill just tie the branch down....here." At least I can say I LSTed a plant now.I'm pretty much the same way. I had to see-it-to-get-it with regards to plant anatomy, but now it all (mostly) makes sense and I can even be a little predictive about what's going to happen next.
Since it looks like you're training your plants in a similar way to how I trained mine I can probably takes some pics to show you what you might be able to expect with their development. I'm about to open the tent for a watering anyway. You may even change your mind and go with another technique, not that I've been unhappy. Like you, I just didn't necessarily understand why I was doing what I was doing. Hell, I still don't in most aspects of my life.
Okay, here's what I did with my grow but keep in mind this is my first grow tooThat would be awesome if you could take some pics! I definitely need all the help I can get. I feel like my LST was pretty random..."ill just tie the branch down....here." At least I can say I LSTed a plant now.
This is awesome. Thanks so much for sharing. I learned a couple things just from those examples. For one. I didn't think to anchor the stem in the opposite direction that I am bending it as you have in your first pic. I just straight up bent it over and the disruption to the soil at the base of the plant is obvious lol.Okay, here's what I did with my grow but keep in mind this is my first grow too
You probably already know this, but the goal of both topping and LST is to break apical dominance, create more overall bud sites, and in doing so increase yield (for our indoor grows in particular). Good stuff, and like everyone says if you don't do it you're probably leaving some bud on the table (for photos anyway).
I started training my plants much like yours by topping at the 5th node (IIRC) along with an LST bend. I topped because it encourages the plant to generate two main stems in place of the one. Simple enough, right? I did the bend in the main stem to get more light to the side stems because that helps them grow like main stems too! I *think* doing this also slows the growth of the main stem/stems and helps those side stems play catch-up.
In the pic below the main stem is traced in red and the main side stems in blue. I'll keep using the same color combos in these pics.
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Below is one of my plants today with the main stem highlighted in red and those same side stems highlighted in blue, though they're pretty big now and more like main stems thanks to the LST.
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Here is the same plant with a view from the side of the main stem where I topped. Its a little crazy in there, but you might be able to tell that my goal was to spread all of the red and blue stems relatively evenly around the plant to give myself an even canopy on top.
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Below is a wider view of that same plant today. The main stems are still highlighted in red. Only one of the main side stems has been highlighted in blue to avoid this visual being too messy, but now I have also highlighted some of the smaller stems that break off from the main red and blue stems in yellow. Honestly, I don't know how many of these I should keep, but I do cut off most of these "yellow" branches that are well under the canopy and will never receive light. I will probably have to thin more of these out as the grow goes on.
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As for the location of bud sites, they're right at the tops of each stem and at each node (or most anyway, not sure). But since a picture is worth a thousand words, I grabbed this flowering solo cup grow pic from the internet (ty tryppyjezus) and I think its just about perfect for letting you see exactly where bud sites occur on the plant. Hell, your plants are about the same size, so you can kinda picture where the flowers would be.
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As for defoliation, I played it pretty conservatively for a long time because taking scissors to my healthy plants was scary. I started with a lot of tucking and was eventually willing to remove some of the big lower fan leaves that weren't getting any light, as well as any leaves that were dragging in the soil as I've heard that's an invitation for disease. Over the past several weeks I've become much more comfortable with defoliating. In fact the only reason you can those lower branches in the pics above is because I trimmed so many fan leaves and tiny branches from the middle. I can't help you too much though because its still a process I'm learning.
This is awesome. Thanks so much for sharing. I learned a couple things just from those examples. For one. I didn't think to anchor the stem in the opposite direction that I am bending it as you have in your first pic. I just straight up bent it over and the disruption to the soil at the base of the plant is obvious lol.
When it comes to defoliation. When is an OK time to do it? I have two plants that are dragging leaves in soil. You mentioned that could be bad news so now I'm a little eager. Does defoliation slow the plant growth? I think I read somewhere the best time to defoliate is right before flower.
Alao, thanks for sharing the solo cup picture. Its probably one of the best examples I've seen, probably because it's just such a simple plant.
One other question for you. When did you know it was time to flip to flower? Did you base it on how much room you had left in the tent?
Thanks man! Droopy girl has perked up today as expected.Good to see an update. Looking great man! Holy hell it didn't take long for them to look like bushes. lol, nicely done.
Awesome, thank you for the info my friend!That droopy plant is just using more water than the others and getting thirsty early. Be careful letting her droop much, I've read drooping leaves are closely followed by dying roots. I sometimes let mine get to where yours was as well, but that's about as far as I like to ever see them droop.
I would agree the big one at least is ready to flip. You don't need to get silly about the light schedule, just change your timer so the dark period is 12 hours instead of 6.
Looking good!!
I dont see how it can't win.I nominated your first image for the Pic of the Month contest. Good luck, man!
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