Growing with living soil indoor

OGGemann · Mar 7, 2021

I have been doing some research on what soil is good for auto flowers because I am on my 3rd auto grow and all tree of them shows the same nutrient deficiency in all 3 grows. My personal opinion is that autos and their short VEG to FLOWER stage has a lot to do with it. "The soil is to hot" is what I hear A LOT" so I dont know any thing about , don't have the time and knowledge, not even know were to start....So I came across this soil that is Smoking Tomatoes Soil: here is a link to their web site........SOILThey are based in Michigan so thats a 4-6 hour drive, now for me to drive 6 hrs for some soil sounds crazy, I know..if only they would delivery..I would love from someone that has used this kind of soil before and how was it??? There's moor I know this is the last ?? I found this soil just like the one that was mentioned earlier and I can get this delivered to my local Hardware Store, but it likes $50 a bag of 18 LBS, now the other soil is $15 a bag at, well it does not say?? BUT its $15 a bag..Let me get back to the soil its called SOHUM Living soil, just adding water only is Like PARADISE to me, I personally hate mixing chemicals and adding dry fertilizer every time I feed them Its a mess after feeding I have to clean the reservoir and every thing else..you know what I am talking about.. so by just adding water is a dream come true to me....same as this soil want to hear other thoughts on this .

Dummy buds · Mar 10, 2021

It's pretty hot to be honest. I'd cut it down with black gold or something, or use it like a super soil. I burnt plants bad, caused some herms, I dumped it on my tomatoes and got huge delicious cherry tomatoes

OGGemann · Mar 10, 2021

Dummy buds said:
It's pretty hot to be honest. I'd cut it down with black gold or something, or use it like a super soil. I burnt plants bad, caused some herms, I dumped it on my tomatoes and got huge delicious cherry tomatoes

So you’re saying it’s to hot for them, but I have seen and heard of guys growing in super soil. It’s not a final decision just weighing in on options. I just don’t like all the mixing nutrients and cleaning afterwards it’s getting to the point like there’s got to be something out there better well not better but something easier. But hay this is what the internet is for research, research and more researching

Arwood · Mar 10, 2021

I use buildasoil for my living soil. They deliver and prices are good IMO. Scooped up their straw and cover crops to help the soil so its thing.

First time trying to grow in organic soil. So far so good! Friends say they only had to water with this setup. I dislike mixing and measuring so I gave it a try.

I’m not entirely convinced so I set up 3 autos to determine what combo works best for my indoor setup.

for what it’s worth, I started 2 seeds in rooter pods and one directly in soil. Soil planted is a week younger and about same size to the other two.

Farmer88 · Mar 10, 2021

Vermont Compost Company is a great soil company. I've used seedling starter and the living compost. Very high microbial growth. Only ever bought 2 yard totes not sure about bags.

OGGemann · Mar 11, 2021

Arwood said:
I use buildasoil for my living soil. They deliver and prices are good IMO. Scooped up their straw and cover crops to help the soil so its thing.

First time trying to grow in organic soil. So far so good! Friends say they only had to water with this setup. I dislike mixing and measuring so I gave it a try.

I’m not entirely convinced so I set up 3 autos to determine what combo works best for my indoor setup.

for what it’s worth, I started 2 seeds in rooter pods and one directly in soil. Soil planted is a week younger and about same size to the other two.

Yeah I did some research on that type of soil but the only thing is it’s better to have a large container and do it that way, but if there is a way to have it in pots or fabric I’ll try it out. But I have time to think and do more research I am currently in 6 wks in flower and they are taking their time.

OGGemann · Mar 11, 2021

Farmer88 said:
Vermont Compost Company is a great soil company. I've used seedling starter and the living compost. Very high microbial growth. Only ever bought 2 yard totes not sure about bags.

They only do wholesale about 20 yards outside of Vermont this does me no good, but man they seem to have great soil. To bad I don’t live in Vermont

OGGemann · Mar 11, 2021

Anny123 said:
I use silt soil, which has high nutrients and can retain water, but it is not easy to drain. This is a annoyed.

Never heard of that before

Farmer88 · Mar 11, 2021

OGGemann said:
They only do wholesale about 20 yards outside of Vermont this does me no good, but man they seem to have great soil. To bad I don’t live in Vermont

Sorry, I wasn't sure about their policy. Maybe you know five or six people and just order a tote. Cheaper that way anyway. I don't know, everything I get comes in pallet form.

OGGemann · Mar 11, 2021

Farmer88 said:
Sorry, I wasn't sure about their policy. Maybe you know five or six people and just order a tote. Cheaper that way anyway. I don't know, everything I get comes in pallet form.

No worries, but thank you for the advice. Just the cost of shipping is not worth it.

Arwood · Mar 12, 2021

Have you measured your soil temperature if your concern is heat? Reread your post and it sounds kind you want to move your currently flowering plants because they’re slow to do what you sell? If that’s the case, you may want to reconsider or at least experiment with 1 before moving them all.

OGGemann · Mar 12, 2021

Arwood said:
Have you measured your soil temperature if your concern is heat? Reread your post and it sounds kind you want to move your currently flowering plants because they’re slow to do what you sell? If that’s the case, you may want to reconsider or at least experiment with 1 before moving them all.

What I mean by soil is hot... I meant by hot with nutrients. Just trying something new with autos with soil that doesn’t have a lot of nutrients in it because autos are finicky about higher nutrients in the soil when in veg

MICHGANDER9 · Mar 12, 2021

OGGemann said:
I have been doing some research on what soil is good for auto flowers because I am on my 3rd auto grow and all tree of them shows the same nutrient deficiency in all 3 grows. My personal opinion is that autos and their short VEG to FLOWER stage has a lot to do with it. "The soil is to hot" is what I hear A LOT" so I dont know any thing about , don't have the time and knowledge, not even know were to start....So I came across this soil that is Smoking Tomatoes Soil: here is a link to their web site........SOILThey are based in Michigan so thats a 4-6 hour drive, now for me to drive 6 hrs for some soil sounds crazy, I know..if only they would delivery..I would love from someone that has used this kind of soil before and how was it??? There's moor I know this is the last ?? I found this soil just like the one that was mentioned earlier and I can get this delivered to my local Hardware Store, but it likes $50 a bag of 18 LBS, now the other soil is $15 a bag at, well it does not say?? BUT its $15 a bag..Let me get back to the soil its called SOHUM Living soil, just adding water only is Like PARADISE to me, I personally hate mixing chemicals and adding dry fertilizer every time I feed them Its a mess after feeding I have to clean the reservoir and every thing else..you know what I am talking about.. so by just adding water is a dream come true to me....same as this soil want to hear other thoughts on this .

Ive tried 3ways ,hydroponics, reg soil +fertilizer and Living soil i sold on the living soil so I purchased a 4×8 grass roots bed, Blumat drippers and soakers and 5,000 red wigglers 1,000 super reds and 1,000 African crawlers as far as the soil I use KIS organics Bio char ( and if your not using biochar you need to!) Its EXPENSIVE soil on shipping but Im on my 4th run and still going re amend with KIS organics nutrient mix and your GOOD to go my advice to you would be read Teaming with Microbes by Jeff Lowenfel and start tgere he has 3 REAL GOOD books TOTALLY pertinent KISorganics.com best thing i ever did! ✌ Happy growing Ron from Michigan

MICHGANDER9 · Mar 12, 2021

Its in my basement

MICHGANDER9 said:
Ive tried 3ways ,hydroponics, reg soil +fertilizer and Living soil i sold on the living soil so I purchased a 4×8 grass roots bed, Blumat drippers and soakers and 5,000 red wigglers 1,000 super reds and 1,000 African crawlers as far as the soil I use KIS organics Bio char ( and if your not using biochar you need to!) Its EXPENSIVE soil on shipping but Im on my 4th run and still going re amend with KIS organics nutrient mix and your GOOD to go my advice to you would be read Teaming with Microbes by Jeff Lowenfel and start tgere he has 3 REAL GOOD books TOTALLY pertinent KISorganics.com best thing i ever did! ✌ Happy growing Ron from Michigan

Its in my basement as well not outside

MICHGANDER9 · Mar 12, 2021

OGGemann said:
What I mean by soil is hot... I meant by hot with nutrients. Just trying something new with autos with soil that doesn’t have a lot of nutrients in it because autos are finicky about higher nutrients in the soil when in veg

You do know that you are feeding the soil and microbes in a living soil and not the plants right? The bacteria, fungi,nematodes and things do that tge plant sends out exudates from roots to the microbes to go get the food they want you just need to make sure its there for that don't mean to interfere with your conversation but i thought maybe some more research about what i just said will help you remember the weather you like it or not plants are in control in living soil lol Have a GREAT one Ron from Michigan ✌

MICHGANDER9 · Mar 12, 2021

MICHGANDER9 said:
You do know that you are feeding the soil and microbes in a living soil and not the plants right? The bacteria, fungi,nematodes and things do that tge plant sends out exudates from roots to the microbes to go get the food they want you just need to make sure its there for that don't mean to interfere with your conversation but i thought maybe some more research about what i just said will help you remember the weather you like it or not plants are in control in living soil lol Have a GREAT one Ron from Michigan ✌

Its called the soil food web see Dr Elaine Ingraham, Jeff Lowenfel ,and Kis organics on YouTube They have some GREAT pod casts Clackamass Coot cant forget him to Great interview with Tad Hussey from Kis

MICHGANDER9 · Mar 12, 2021

OGGemann said:
No worries, but thank you for the advice. Just the cost of shipping is not worth it.

You know living soil is a 1 and done deal right pay the xtra for good Living soil and alls you have too do is re amend it

MICHGANDER9 · Mar 12, 2021

MICHGANDER9 said:
You know living soil is a 1 and done deal right pay the xtra for good Living soil and alls you have too do is re amend it

I have a question Who here among us has used Mycorrhizal Fungi on their seedling ,clones or transplants in this living soil thread?

Arwood · Mar 14, 2021

MICHGANDER9 said:
I have a question Who here among us has used Mycorrhizal Fungi on their seedling ,clones or transplants in this living soil thread?

I have. It’s a small cost for a lot of goodness. I found it to be very effective at rescuing weak trees and other plants in my garden as well.

MICHGANDER9 · Mar 14, 2021

Arwood said:
I have. It’s a small cost for a lot of goodness. I found it to be very effective at rescuing weak trees and other plants in my garden as well.

I use it at every transplant works wonders! I use WOW i like the granular better than water in

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