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fishwhistle · Aug 28, 2013

Cort said:
We have not had many politicians, let alone presidents in decades who will stand up the the men behind the curtain. They are nothing more than a figurehead portrayed by the smoke machine in the Great and Terrible OZ's throne room.

Very sad and very true...

SoCal 420 · Aug 28, 2013

Barack Obama made it A Point to Run on the promise that "He is the Man" to pull back the curtain and Expose the "Illusion" Remember "Hope and Change" and "Yes We Can" This time POTUS Is the "Wizard" and the "Smoke" in one Slick, Smooth Talkin Package... People were Duped and still refuse to "Believe" it

Cort · Aug 28, 2013

And thinking further how to explain what I think is true:

The bigger the politician the larger and more free with money the special interest must be to get the mouthpiece to move. I dont think that there is 1 man or group of men pulling strings for the world. Its the money,power and influence of big business. Those few who wield enough power to give it to others are the men behind the curtain, but the men themselves would be nothing with out the companies behind them.

Not very clearly expressed, but you get the gist.

caregiverken · Aug 28, 2013

i hate to even say it but
the hospitals will be getting busier in a few years with all that radiation coming:bag:

SoCal 420 · Aug 28, 2013

Yep, and the "Wizard" is out right now doing what $$$ wants him to do, Blowing "Wizard Smoke" up everyone's Ass on MLK day... Politicians @ their best. "O" and Bill Clinton crack me up. Clinton "It's easier for A black man today to buy A Gun than Vote" Last time I bought A gun, I needed I.D. to prove "Who I Am" IS Clinton really that retarded?

caregiverken · Aug 28, 2013

Cort said:
We have not had many politicians, let alone presidents in decades who will stand up the the men behind the curtain. They are nothing more than a figurehead portrayed by the smoke machine in the Great and Terrible OZ's throne room.

SoCal 420 · Aug 28, 2013

caregiverken said:
i hate to even say it but
the hospitals will be getting busier in a few years with all that radiation coming:bag:

And all the doctors planing to '"Retire" from private practice... There is A big shortage of doctors on the horizon with A shit load of people being promised the world when it comes to Health Care...

caregiverken · Aug 28, 2013

baby boomers are getting old

SoCal 420 · Aug 28, 2013

caregiverken said:
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Recently, Niel Cavuto did A piece on Kennedy and his successful fight and support for tax cuts for middle class and job creation supported buy original footage that dropped democratic politicians jaws on the floor... They all thought the footage was edited, until the checked for their selves... True Story

fishwhistle · Aug 28, 2013

Lets all not forget that the republicans are every bit as guilty as the democrats either,none of the rat bastards in recent memory have truly had the best interests of the people or our country as their first priority which is the job we all elected them to do,Im with pute i will never call myself a democrat or republican again but rather an independent,I dont want to be grouped in with any of these loser sellouts.

SoCal 420 · Aug 28, 2013

caregiverken said:
baby boomers are getting old

And Medical School is getting "Expensive" with little but Headache and Paper Work to look forward to... Who wants A lifetime of paying off your education strangled by bureaucratic red tape and buried in government mandates ;)

sky high · Aug 28, 2013

I agree with much of what you say, fish. It has been a dis-appointing run for Obama/this country.....but it started long before Obama. He just had the jive to get elected....much like the Chimp had the family political ties to get him elected and then drop the huge load we've been stepping in/around ever since (a.k.a "finish what Daddy couldn't"). Neither Bush or Obama were truly qualified...but the country is always on a knee jerk...much like it will be for the next election when all dems are voted out and we vote >WHOMEVER< from the right in and >swing to the right< on all facets....AND keep spending.... LOL.....cus like we all know it isn't >just< the Dems who have been financially outta control over the years in the Wipe House.

putembk · Aug 28, 2013

This was doomed from the start. If there is a loop hole a company, family, individual will find it. Members on here have stated they won't pay into the program, companies are hiring part time so the don't have to pay on and on. The middle class tax payer is going to be the one who ends up footing the bill. Sooner or later the middle class will crumble and then who is gonna pay!!
All those responsible will be living in their own little piece of heaven look in down on the mess they have left without one inch of regret or remorse. Socialism at it's finest. Only one problem....now were all poor, except those who lead us down the path.

caregiverken · Aug 28, 2013

putembk said:
Only one problem....now were all poor, except those who lead us down the path.

Yep they tax us and steal from us too!

Inflation is theft!

putembk · Aug 28, 2013

At work we had some 80 employees and every year the best the broker we used could do was approximately a 10% increase in premiums. The company paid 1/2 of the employees premium and the employee paid the other half. After years of double digit increases the cost started to become substantial. The company off set the cost by raising co-pays, delectables and hiring as many part time people as we could. Before I left we were toying with the idea of dropping coverage all together. Now the affordable health care act is starting to kick in. DON'T GET SICK.

Ken is right about money, we just keep printing and printing it. The more we print the less it's worth. Wondering what is going to happen to the bond market when the white house stops throwing....forgot how much but I think its about 40 billion a month into the economy. CRASH!!!!

SoCal 420 · Aug 28, 2013

You hit the nail on the head ^^^^ many are clueless that the only thing propping up this "Phoney" Obama economy is the Fed and the ability to endlessly print money... it's all smoke and mirrors. Why do you think the market shits there pants every time Ben Bernanke is scheduled to speak. As soon as the Fed pulls the plug the phoney market that everyone in politics keeps pointing to as an indicator of "How were doing" is done... If you listen, this is what people in the market and in the know have been saying for months now...

SoCal 420 · Aug 28, 2013

Bernanke's term is set to expire this January, Mid term Elections are on the horizon, who will be the next to take the reins of the massive ship that is the U.S. economy? There is growing consensus current Fed Vice-Chairwoman Janet Yellen will earn the nomination (Via Obama :() A primary worry among investors and politicians is whether a new head of the Fed will be able to successfully withdraw from the current Quantitative Easing policy without incurring too much collateral damage.
The Fed's two primary aims are to keep prices stable and keep unemployment low. The QE policy adopted by Bernanke buys roughly $85 billion in treasury bonds and mortgage assets per month (#for putembk ;) ) in order to keep interest rates low. In theory, lower interest rates will spur business investment, thereby allowing more hires.
So, if Yellen does get the nomination (Via Obama :() what happens? The answer: Not much. Yellen would likely lead a withdrawal from QE and allow interest rates to go back up once unemployment has fallen to a tolerable level, possibly 6.5%. (The "New" Tolerable 6.5% according to who?)
Hold on to your shorts people, shit is poised to hit the fan!

SoCal 420 · Aug 28, 2013

FYI putmbk, I would think that Government Bonds wouldn't be worth the paper (Risk) they are printed on but I'm no bond expert by any measure... Maybe someone else will chime in.

putembk · Aug 28, 2013

SoCal 420 said:
FYI putmbk, I would think that Government Bonds wouldn't be worth the paper (Risk) they are printed on but I'm no bond expert by any measure... Maybe someone else will chime in.

I can add a little to that. Right now if you talk to a stock broker they will most likely lead you to the bond market. Why.....because the are tracking over 8% annually right now. That's fine as long as the market is artificially being stimulated. However, just like you said every body shit's their pants every time Bernake gets in front of a mike fearing he is going to cut the funds off. You had better be out of Bonds when that happens.

Seamaiden · Aug 29, 2013

SoCal 420 said:
Barack Obama made it A Point to Run on the promise that "He is the Man" to pull back the curtain and Expose the "Illusion" Remember "Hope and Change" and "Yes We Can" This time POTUS Is the "Wizard" and the "Smoke" in one Slick, Smooth Talkin Package... People were Duped and still refuse to "Believe" it

Heh, I know a couple who have the t-shirts to prove it.

So, would it be terribly hypocritical of me to state that we've directly benefited from 'Obama's' federal stimulus funds? D'oh! Yup. That's what got us our solar array.

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