help! both pH and ppm rise!

Cashmeh · Jan 3, 2022

What did you say those room temps were? Im trying to just stay with you and another guy but im getting so confused as to whos doing what.

From the looks of your pics from a week ago, they are defiantly getting worse.

As i say to everyone, lets see those roots again. Also im sure i asked, but your sterile right, not live?

smokedareefer · Jan 3, 2022

tait said:
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i think this grow is just fucked :(
im sad but ill keep trying

Are they sleeping?

Edit lol pictures of roots

tait · Jan 4, 2022

Cashmeh said:
What did you say those room temps were? Im trying to just stay with you and another guy but im getting so confused as to whos doing what.

From the looks of your pics from a week ago, they are defiantly getting worse.

As i say to everyone, lets see those roots again. Also im sure i asked, but your sterile right, not live?

im traversing to a live system i havent had the chance today but tomorrow im gonna run to the hydroponic store and pick up either HydroGuard or Southern Ag if they have it...
will upload roots tomorrow!

room temp is currently 60° and 54.7% humidity

PK1 · Jan 4, 2022

tait said:
im traversing to a live system i havent had the chance today but tomorrow im gonna run to the hydroponic store and pick up either HydroGuard or Southern Ag if they have it...
will upload roots tomorrow!

room temp is currently 60° and 54.7% humidity

most hydro stores don't have southern AG, you can try wasting your time and money and let us know. The reason they don't carry it is because it is so concentrated that they won't make money from you. LOL! JK, i actually don't know why they don't carry it but i can bet they don't carry it. also, jumping ships and grabbing ingredients isn't going to help ur situation. @tobh @Aquaman where can he grab Southern AG?

Cashmeh · Jan 4, 2022

tait said:
im traversing to a live system i havent had the chance today but tomorrow im gonna run to the hydroponic store and pick up either HydroGuard or Southern Ag if they have it...
will upload roots tomorrow!

room temp is currently 60° and 54.7% humidity

Your plants cannot transpire. They need to expel the water in the leafs. You have to heat up your room somehow. Leaf Temps should be 76, not 60 lol. So yea, this isn't a problem with your plants or hydro system.. It's a problem with your Temps. You can run some insulated 8 inch duct, an 8 inch fan and blow your home air inside it. Like if you want to grow weed you will need to bring the Temps up.

Now if you can't raise your Temps.. Create a post on how to grow weed in low Temp environments.

Now im not saying there are not nutrient issues. I dont like 2 parts, seems like you will lack one or the other easier. My 3 part trio makes it easy when topping off. I watch my ppm, if its dropping and my ph is climbing im golden, but if its dropping and my ph is dropping, i need to top off and add the right nutrients. Depending the stage of growth i use a ratio of the 3. I mean its simpler, but like all things, it might not be better. Im not saying the 2 part is your issue, i just know if your ph is dropping shortly after res changes, and your roots look long and stringy, they need a nutrient they dont have, which your pics look like.

Its obv now to me there are multiple deffeciencies, just I will forget about this for a few days then all goes to hell. Plus who do you listen to right. . its all good either way man. . you do whats best for you, I just want you to hear both sides of the story.

Cashmeh · Jan 4, 2022

PK1 said:
most hydro stores don't have southern AG, you can try wasting your time and money and let us know. The reason they don't carry it is because it is so concentrated that they won't make money from you. LOL! JK, i actually don't know why they don't carry it but i can bet they don't carry it. also, jumping ships and grabbing ingredients isn't going to help ur situation. @tobh @Aquaman where can he grab Southern AG?

Do me a favor and don't reply to things that someone asks me. You have established yourself as a troll.

Hes going to get whatever his stores have since he's in a hurry and doesn't want to order a specific one, that is, unless they have none or both lol.. I bet they only have hydroguard. You wearing me out tonight pk, but I'm here for you now.

tait · Jan 4, 2022

PK1 said:
most hydro stores don't have southern AG, you can try wasting your time and money and let us know. The reason they don't carry it is because it is so concentrated that they won't make money from you. LOL! JK, i actually don't know why they don't carry it but i can bet they don't carry it. also, jumping ships and grabbing ingredients isn't going to help ur situation. @tobh @Aquaman where can he grab Southern AG?

jumping ships is kinda an overstatement when im not even sure what ship i was on in the first place. and i get it im a fool. Thank you

tait · Jan 4, 2022

Cashmeh said:
Your plants cannot transpire. They need to expel the water in the leafs. You have to heat up your room somehow. Leaf Temps should be 76, not 60 lol. So yea, this isn't a problem with your plants or hydro system.. It's a problem with your Temps. You can run some insulated 8 inch duct, an 8 inch fan and blow your home air inside it. Like if you want to grow weed you will need to bring the Temps up.

Now if you can't raise your Temps.. Create a post on how to grow weed in low Temp environments.

Now im not saying there are not nutrient issues. I dont like 2 parts, seems like you will lack one or the other easier. My 3 part trio makes it easy when topping off. I watch my ppm, if its dropping and my ph is climbing im golden, but if its dropping and my ph is dropping, i need to top off and add the right nutrients. Depending the stage of growth i use a ratio of the 3. I mean its simpler, but like all things, it might not be better. Im not saying the 2 part is your issue, i just know if your ph is dropping shortly after res changes, and your roots look long and stringy, they need a nutrient they dont have, which your pics look like.

Its obv now to me there are multiple deffeciencies, just I will forget about this for a few days then all goes to hell. Plus who do you listen to right. . its all good either way man. . you do whats best for you, I just want you to hear both sides of the story.

perhaps its worth mentioning they arent all the same strain,
im gonna see what to do for heat.
and i have no idea who to specifically listen to

tait · Jan 4, 2022

alright guys im gonna see what I can do. I again thank everyone for the chance to study a hell of a lot more stuff, im serious.
im getting a better grasp of this every passing day and it wouldn’t be for you who respond so frequently and passionately

PK1 · Jan 4, 2022

I love my new ignore button

tait said:
jumping ships is kinda an overstatement when im not even sure what ship i was on in the first place. and i get it im a fool. Thank you

ya, sry bud. This troll is working my nerves and i just said something. You do whatever fits your situation. Sry your journal has to have a low life in it to make members get pissy.

Cashmeh · Jan 4, 2022

tait said:
perhaps its worth mentioning they arent all the same strain,
im gonna see what to do for heat.
and i have no idea who to specifically listen to

Best you can do is hear all sides, glad your open minded. I have faith in ya

Ask all of us questions that make us explain our reasoning, if it conflicts with something you have heard before.

As for the multiple strains, I run 6 different ones in thes ame system. Your only problem will be keeping a level canopy lol, but its not that bad of a problem. Some grow faster than others, but generally as long as you keep your ppm low, you wont overfeed the runt, cause there is always a runt when using different strains.

CarlWebbIII · Jun 24, 2024

tait said:
Thank you for ignoring the fallen calendar,

and allow me to elaborate the graph the red mark is my ph down pump detecting the pH at 6.6 and dosing down a 2ml, which then brought it down but as you can see it then continues to rise again
Okay, thank you! Im just concerned because this is week 5, i start with ro water and have been following advanced nutrients calculator, dividing the nutrients suggested by half already, when i mix im at about 700, and it becomes unstable as the week continues..

will listen to your suggestion and remix at ~200ppm

I know this is old so sorry if im out of line but can i ask, what systems do you use to check / dispense your nutrients / ph up or down? Im looking for a good automated system like what i think you have.

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