TreeBee said:

They look over watered and underfed to me but I have shared your post and hopefully someone whos better equipped to help you will come along.

They will ask what your growing medium is soil/peat/compost what ever is in your pots. Also what nutrients are you using?

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Phyto said:

I concur, overwatering. The roots are suffocating, and they are damaged to the point of having a tough time absorbing water (or nutes). First thing is to get the roots healthy again, then address feeding. You need to let the soil dry back a lot, then only water when needed. 45 gallon bags with plants that size, probably could go at least a week, and maybe two, without watering. I've lived in both coastal Humboldt County and Santa Cruz, not too much climate difference between the two, SC is just a tad warmer and a little drier (but not much).

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roadiewifelife said:

Thanks for taking the time to respond!

So stop watering or do we need to transplant into fresh soil and basically start fresh so we don't kill them AND water much less?

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DougV said:

It looks to be in a hoop house. What’s the temperatures inside there?

On water, water slowly to allow moisture to be absorbed, water deeply. Don’t water again until the soil is dry at a depth of 2”. The easiest and most accurate way to test for moisture is your finger. Slowly insert your finger to a depth of 2 inches. Feel damp, cold, wet, or anything other than dry, hold off watering. I get that might be difficult to explain. They have moisture meters, but they are hard to impossible to read. For now, I’d bet you will not need to water more often than 7-10 days.

Nice size pots for outdoors, good choice. Rough amount of water, to water that pot deeply, 2 gallon and 1 quart.

It may wilt, but heck it already is. There’s probably a bit of transplant shock as well. You rushed the hardening process. Normal routine is to spend a week slowly acclimating it. Odds are it has lived its whole life inside.

Don’t change soil, it’ll dry and that’s better than disturbing it again. It will take it a few days to start recovering, what you want to see is new growth. Yes, I say your post.

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Phyto said:

Stop watering for at least a week. I'm not sure if replanting in fresh soil would help or hurt, transplanting is a shock for certain. I might try it on one or two of them and see how it works, then if it's successful and the others are still having issues transplant them too. I checked where you bought the clones, that's pretty far inland, so if you're in Santa Cruz proper, or even in the hills your climate is cooler and wetter than where the plants came from. Normally I would suggest lifting the pots to gauge when they're dry to and again when wet, but that isn't feasable in 45 gallon containers!!!

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roadiewifelife said:

The soil we are using is Fox Farms Ocean Forest and the pots are 45 gallon. He says isn't using any nutrients at the moment.

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roadiewifelife said:

I will put a thermometer in there to find out the temp and get back toyou, but I'm going to assume that's not the issue. We have all the doors open so the back and front wall are just screens. I actually have the screens up too so the fungas gnats that haven't been trapped to the sticky yellow things will move their asses outside. We also have a fan that blows during the day to keep the air moving. On top of that it hasn't been above 65 degrees outside since we brought them home.. but who knows! I could be wrong!

Glad my research on the pot size was accurate!

I told him to leave it all alone and to NOT water again until I say so. He's so gung ho! I figured he was going to melt down today once he saw the "taco leaves" and he's handling it pretty well. They weren't tacos yesterday, but he watered them again yesterday when I told him not to do that when I left to run errands. It's like he can't help himself!

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DougV said:

It looks to be in a hoop house. What’s the temperatures inside there?

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DougV said:

If this insultingly stupid, I apologize. It’s a silly gimmicky way to see if a pot needs watering.

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roadiewifelife said:

Here's the whole set up he's created and the current temp/humidity inside. We leave the screens up during the day and then put them down at night to prevent raccoons, possums from getting inside.

I'm assuming we have an overwatering/temp problem?

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TreeBee said:

That is way above 65 lol... you want that at least 15° lower

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roadiewifelife said:

Yeah, I was like whoooooa. It doesn't feel like that at all inside!

So we probably need to take off the greenhouse until flowering season. It gets so damp/wet in August/September that people get mold here so we thought the greenhouse would help.

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