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II never like the argument "they dont have it in nature". They dont have anyone checking humidity levels or EC either, nor feeding specific nutrients at specific times or making compost tea for them, hell I could just throw the seed in there and fuck it if thats your argument but I wont do that lol.
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Well, you don't have to check Rh or ec either, that's just to create a consistent constant "perfect" environment.

And yea....those plants may not constantly consistently be happy either lol.

Everything we do indoors is to mimic nature, but indoors with a consistent positive environment..


And yes you could just throw a seed outside, or in a pot of SOIL, don't forget to water every 5 days.
 
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II never like the argument "they dont have it in nature". They dont have anyone checking humidity levels or EC either, nor feeding specific nutrients at specific times or making compost tea for them, hell I could just throw the seed in there and fuck it if thats your argument but I wont do that lol.
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Have you ever worked in a cultivation facility?
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Im on my way to that, planing on growing CBD in a medium scale (50 plants) since THC is not legal to grow in Spain. I wish I had, I know people who have, illegaly, but thats different, I cant speak for major operations in the US as I only know what Ive seen on youtube. I like Jorge Cervantes and Mr. Canucks, they helped me greatly when I was starting years ago, but comparing ilegal growing operations in Spain to big growing operations in the US is stupid, the standards are not the same I can tell you that much xD
 
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Well, you don't have to check Rh or ec either, that's just to create a consistent constant "perfect" environment.

Everything we do indoors is to mimic nature, but indoors with a consistent positive environment.
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Exactly, which they dont have in nature, thats my point, we try to recreate nature at its peak moment for every part of its life. Im not saying you cant grow a kickass weed outdoors that would be super ignorant, if you take care of them sure, but let them grow with no control like they would in nature and I bet you wont be getting an award winning weed anytime soon.
 
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Why do you guys make me look like Im not saying things that make sense? Does anyone here just let his weed grow like it would in nature with no control whatsoever? I dont think so.
 
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There are many factors to consider still... I have ended up with runoff water with lower ph than 6 which wasnt pleasant since that was in late flowering and I didnt use any ph up or down that harvest, the acidity of the fertilizers took over the power of dolomite lime overtime to control ph fluctuations. Im sure they help but I dont think you can get a perfect harvest without meassuring everything, specially considering the variables depending on what fertilizers youre using, specially mineral fertilizers since they lower your ph even more. I wouldnt blindly trust any substrate to keep my ph perfect specially not during late flowering considering I had problems already by doing that.
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i never ph anything, have no clue what it is or ec etc.. my grows are healthy/perfect from start to finish..
you don’t need it or half the stuff you mentioned, but your right about unhealthy or deficient etc plants, they will starting up taking heavy metals from the medium..
anyhoo were just trying to help a new grower with a simple method to use..
 
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Wow! 50 plants. That's a lot of plants. How much CBD do you expect to net from your crop?

Outdoor or indoor facility? Are you setting up your own facility or are you getting hired into an existing facility?
 
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Exactly, which they dont have in nature, thats my point, we try to recreate nature at its peak moment for every part of its life. Im not saying you cant grow a kickass weed outdoors that would be super ignorant, if you take care of them sure, but let them grow with no control like they would in nature and I bet you wont be getting an award winning weed anytime soon.
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now that’s sooo untrue..
 
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i never ph anything, have no clue what it is or ec etc.. my grows are healthy/perfect from start to finish..
you don’t need it or half the stuff you mentioned, but your right about unhealthy or deficient etc plants, they will starting up taking heavy metals from the medium..
anyhoo were just trying to help a new grower with a simple method to use..
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You dont need to because the mix of ingredients you use its already prepared for that but we didnt even know what this guy was feeding his plants, imagine it was biobizz grow to put one example, he is gonna need to buy a ph down, but since he is using PH perfect from AN it does it for him, still wouldnt hurt to check.
 
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ok this thread has got off track..
maybe start a ph thread..
is this thread owner even still here?
 
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Wow! 50 plants. That's a lot of plants. How much CBD do you expect to net from your crop?

Outdoor or indoor facility? Are you setting up your own facility or are you getting hired into an existing facility?
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Its not so much considering I wont be doing training techniques, if I can get 250g per plant Im happy. In Spain you need someone to hire you to get your license for CBD so without that I wont even be able to start, but I have a partner interested with 50k euros ready to invest when Im ready to go, Im just not in my peak moment right but thats something personal. Anyway CBD is in high demand right now in Europe, and it wasnt a couple of years ago.
 
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ok this thread has got off track..
maybe start a ph thread..
is this thread owner even still here?
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Please don't. I'm getting edumacated here real good!!!!
 
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Honestly, it’s threads like these help me learn
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ok this thread has got off track..
maybe start a ph thread..
is this thread owner even still here?
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ok this thread has got off track..
maybe start a ph thread..
is this thread owner even still here?
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I dont think so xDD
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now that’s sooo untrue..
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Yeah so you just like go into the forest and plant them there right? Cmon! We are not gonna agree and yes we have gone off topic quite a lot.
 
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Its not so much considering I wont be doing training techniques, if I can get 250g per plant Im happy. In Spain you need someone to hire you to get your license for CBD so without that I wont even be able to start, but I have a partner interested with 50k euros ready to invest when Im ready to go, Im just not in my peak moment right but thats something personal. Anyway CBD is in high demand right now in Europe, and it wasnt a couple of years ago.
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Tell your partner if he wants to fastrack your CBD brand I can provide him with all the CBD in whatever form he wants, white labeled in whatever container he wants with whatever labling he needs to comply with Medicines Agency. Spain isn't allowing anything ingestable from cannabis or hemp. Topical only so I got CBD creams up the ying yang for you. I can do bathbombs. I can provide you water soluble, nano CBD to incorporate in shampoos and whatever other product that can be topically applied.

Trying to setup a vertically integrated company like you want is a recipe for disaster. I've watched literally hundreds of startups fail because of this.

50,000 Euro is chump change if you're trying to start a brand the way you want to. Count on at least 250,000 Euro if you want to have any chance at making a dent in the market and that's not even counting vertically integrating.
 
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Tell your partner if he wants to fastrack your CBD brand I can provide him with all the CBD in whatever form he wants, white labeled in whatever container he wants with whatever labling he needs to comply with Medicines Agency. Spain isn't allowing anything ingestable from cannabis or hemp. Topical only so I got CBD creams up the ying yang for you. I can do bathbombs. I can provide you water soluble, nano CBD to incorporate in shampoos and whatever other product that can be topically applied.

Trying to setup a vertically integrated company like you want is a recipe for disaster. I've watched literally hundreds of startups fail because of this.

50,000 Euro is chump change if you're trying to start a brand the way you want to. Count on at least 250,000 Euro if you want to have any chance at making a dent in the market and that's not even counting vertically integrating.
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People who wanna take it orally buy the oils here and people who wanna smoke it buy the flower which is sold under aromatherapy and also sold in cannabic associations, herbal shops and tobbaco shops. I know thats high on demand, I have friends who have long swaped from THC to CBD and the dispensaries (where its legal to buy it and smoke it but not to take it home, but everyone does anyway) are always short on CBD because nobody here really cares to grow CBD. The last year there were 3 commercial growers in all of Spain and one got raided by the police and got his crops destroyed because he failed to notify the police about his bussiness and since the police is not used to deal with CBD they inmediatly thought it was THC, they dont even know what CBD is lol. 250k euros to start a small bussiness? Man you forget that Spain is a broke ass country, I can get enough land for 300 euros/month with 1 month deposit, I have my eyes in a couple of lands near my location. I know there are more costs but is not as high as you think.
 
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So your plans are to only grow and supply raw material to extractors?

I've been to Spain many times.
 
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So your plans are to only grow and supply raw material to extractors?

I've been to Spain many times.
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Correct, Ill selling the matured raw flower only, because its cheaper and safer and high on demand. If things go well and the CBD market keeps growing we plan on making our own brand, for which he has another 50k ready in the bank to get linceses and open a small shop, thats what he wants but for now its just thinking way ahead Right now or in the near future it would be too risky since at the moment only young people know about CBD and they mostly wanna smoke it. Oh really? Where have you been in Spain? I hope you enjoy your stay every time you come.
 
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Me encanta Espana. Visite a todos los cuidades majores pero me encante el sur de Espana mas que nada. Claro, Barcelona, Madrid, Valencia, Seville son buen interesante pero me encante mas el campo.

I've seen this happen so many times but some people just gotta feel the pain before they learn. Good Luck!
 
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Why do you guys make me look like Im not saying things that make sense? Does anyone here just let his weed grow like it would in nature with no control whatsoever? I dont think so.
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Just found a volunteer in the garden

Looks happier than hell! A little shade, low humidity, looking sweet. High humidity would probably be a different story. Just like humans!
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Just grew by itself, I didn't even plant it. Watered a few times with the hose.
 
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