Help needed leaf curl downward

yammie6r · Jul 31, 2023

Hi, this plant was doing fine up until today. When the light came on I was in disbelief with the leaves curling down.

1000w led
Roots organics green fields soil
3-3-3 organic dry nutes
Foxfarm microbes
Aerated water once it dry's out (everyday) due to fabric pots.

Thx in advanced

GNick55 · Jul 31, 2023

need a couple better pictures than that..
but from what i see is kinda bloated leaves with a slight downward taco look..
more than likely your watering too frequently…

yammie6r · Jul 31, 2023

Thx for the reply hope these will help.

GNick55 · Jul 31, 2023

yammie6r said:
Thx for the reply hope these will help.

mmm your only giving it 3-3-3, kinda looks heavy on nitrogen but could pests?? all those tiny white spots on leaves could be a sign of pests?. i’m not really a pest guy.. get a pic or two of those leaves with specks and see if someone knows if it’s pests firstly..

yammie6r · Jul 31, 2023

GNick55 said:
mmm your only giving it 3-3-3, kinda looks heavy on nitrogen but could pests?? all those tiny white spots on leaves could be a sign of pests?. i’m not really a pest guy.. get a pic or two of those leaves with specks and see if someone knows if it’s pests firstly..

Thx, the pic of the underside of the leaf is one with the spots. Ive inspected the entire plant with no sign of anything, even tried it with a jewelers loop. I make a tea with the nutes 2x weekly I forgot to mention that I will update the info above.

GNick55 · Jul 31, 2023

yammie6r said:
Thx, the pic of the underside of the leaf is one with the spots. Ive inspected the entire plant with no sign of anything, even tried it with a jewelers loop. I make a tea with the nutes 2x weekly I forgot to mention that I will update the info above.

ya still wait for a pest guy.. need a true100x magnification to see them..

yammie6r · Jul 31, 2023

Ah I see im using a 60x, thx bro.

GNick55 · Jul 31, 2023

@Captspaulding or @Trash_2002
may be able to help..
they should be by here soon

yammie6r · Jul 31, 2023

GNick55 said:
@Captspaulding or @Trash_2002
may be able to help..
they should be by here soon

Thx

Trash_2002 · Jul 31, 2023

yammie6r said:
Thx

this looks like a Nitrogen overfeed,
and the white dots over the leaves looks a lot like mite damage, are you sure no spider mite are under the leaves?
in the under leaf photo i see some white specs.. could be mite eggs/small infant mites.
Also look for Thrips.

Trash_2002 · Jul 31, 2023

yammie6r said:
Ah I see im using a 60x, thx bro.

60x is enough to spot mites , even broadmites you can see with 60x if you are careful and have steady hands.

Captspaulding · Jul 31, 2023

Trash_2002 said:
this looks like a Nitrogen overfeed,
and the white dots over the leaves looks a lot like mite damage, are you sure no spider mite are under the leaves?
in the under leaf photo i see some white specs.. could be mite eggs/small infant mites.
Also look for Thrips.

100% agree.

Captspaulding · Jul 31, 2023

What is your water/feed regiment? How many days apart? How much per plant?

GNick55 · Jul 31, 2023

Captspaulding said:
What is your water/feed regiment? How many days apart? How much per plant?

he does have lots of nitrogen with worm casting and humus plus the 3-3-3..

GNick55 · Jul 31, 2023

he should stop worm casting as humus will last entire grow.. and just ride it out with the 3-3-3??.
unless he has other nutrients there he hasn’t mentioned yet..
just an idea i was thinking for him

Captspaulding · Jul 31, 2023

Yeah I would agree on removing the castings, the leaves are super shiny. Clawing, so it’s definitely close to a N toxicity. He could very well just stay the course on humus and and the 3-3-3 or he could just lighten up on nitrogen in his feed for a couple of weeks, that waxy leaf surface will dissipate a bit. Being into flower a couple of weeks he should be ok backing it off, especially since those castings have been there for a bit.

yammie6r · Aug 3, 2023

Trash_2002 said:
this looks like a Nitrogen overfeed,
and the white dots over the leaves looks a lot like mite damage, are you sure no spider mite are under the leaves?
in the under leaf photo i see some white specs.. could be mite eggs/small infant mites.
Also look for Thrips.

I checked all over and dont see any signs of bugs whatsoever. Its baffles me being this is my 3rd grow. I did have an issue with fungus gnats. Its was remedied in a couple of days. Thx

yammie6r · Aug 3, 2023

Captspaulding said:
What is your water/feed regiment? How many days apart? How much per plant?

Water is daily with these air pots and im doing bottom feed due to a gnat problem early on. The pots are extremely light once the lights come on. Its getting 1/4 gallon daily atm.

yammie6r · Aug 3, 2023

GNick55 said:
he should stop worm casting as humus will last entire grow.. and just ride it out with the 3-3-3??.
unless he has other nutrients there he hasn’t mentioned yet..
just an idea i was thinking for him

Will do im going to do a water only regiment for a week. Im not sure if thats right but open to suggestions. Thx

yammie6r · Aug 3, 2023

Captspaulding said:
Yeah I would agree on removing the castings, the leaves are super shiny. Clawing, so it’s definitely close to a N toxicity. He could very well just stay the course on humus and and the 3-3-3 or he could just lighten up on nitrogen in his feed for a couple of weeks, that waxy leaf surface will dissipate a bit. Being into flower a couple of weeks he should be ok backing it off, especially since those castings have been there for a bit.

Thx

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