Help please! Need some experienced growers

[seedsower33]

Hey growers I'm new here and was hoping I came to the right place for some help I'm not a new grower but definitely still learning so my goal here is to begin making my own feminized seeds I've been successful once already
I just bought some new seeds to start my seeds collection I have Ayahuasca purple Barney's farm I have blueberry muffin and grandaddy purple
Anyways I made a mistake of getting miracle grow soil with the beads in it and my Ayahuasca purple started off great then I'm assuming those beads dissolved from a couple waterings and too much for my seedlings I changed and replanted in some organic soil yesterday I'm hoping someone could tell me if my plants are gonna make it ?

If like to backcross the seeds for some original seeds like I bought them as and if also like to make some crosses to create some new breeds any help is very much appreciated

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

those beads are called osmaocote, they are a time release fertilizer. They don't just dissolve after a few days.

As long as most the twigs and bark are removed and your watering with a pH buffered up a little bit you can get by vegging in MG soil, it just holds too much moisture for cannabis' liking too

Most of those look fine a couple look overwatered to me, maybe a bit acidic but not horrible

 

[seedsower33]

those beads are called osmaocote, they are a time release fertilizer. They don't just dissolve after a few days.

As long as most the twigs and bark are removed and your watering with a pH buffered up a little bit you can get by vegging in MG soil, it just holds too much moisture for cannabis' liking too

Most of those look fine a couple look overwatered to me, maybe a bit acidic but not horrible

Thank you for your reply my entire time growing I've never tested ph .. maybe now is a good time to start what is the best pH and how do I test it?

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

Thank you for your reply my entire time growing I've never tested ph .. maybe now is a good time to start what is the best pH and how do I test it?

If you're using bottled synthetic nutrients or time released synthetic nutrients monitoring PH is going to become pretty critical, especially in soil like MG

Ideal range is 6.5 to 6.8 and you'll want to test your nutrients and watering solution to get it in the ideal range before using. If having active pH issues it's wise to test drainage too so you can figure out where the issue lies as well.

With most completely organic methods ph isn't that important your micro life will take care of most of it for you.


Definitely grab a decent pH meter on Amazon or something. Try to avoid the dirt cheap yellow ones. You can get good one under $25

I use potassium bicarbonate powder for pH up. I almost never have to use PH down because feeds are already usually pretty acidic.

 

[seedsower33]

Ok thank you so much if like to go organic but I definitely will be getting a pH meter the soil I replanted in was soil with compost nutrients I'm gonna be buying happy frog soil today after work and the nutrients I been using lately is rainbow grow or crown jewels gold or whatever it's called that considered organic right?

 

[seedsower33]

Any of these will do or do you have a suggestion

 

[Captspaulding]

Don’t need to ph anything in soil bud.
If you will be in happy frog, don’t worry about that.

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

Ok thank you so much if like to go organic but I definitely will be getting a pH meter the soil I replanted in was soil with compost nutrients I'm gonna be buying happy frog soil today after work and the nutrients I been using lately is rainbow grow or crown jewels gold or whatever it's called that considered organic right?

The crown jewels is, the soil, both the MG and (iirc, havent used it ni well over a decade) so is the happy frog nutrients in the soil (i may be confusing it with ocean forest idr)


If you are mixing synthetic and organics, and your fertilizer doesnt have PH stablizers in it, you should def still be PH'ing your intake water. i dont know anything about that jewel stuff, but its omri listed organic, so its highly unlikely itll be anything but quite acidic. That may create problems later on with the time released nutrients in your soil im not sure.

My soil mix is just cheap-o potting soil with no nutes (hyponex right now, its the dirt cheap crap)

with all the twigs and bark screened out. Then i cut the filteres oil 50/50 with peat, then cut that mix with about 30% perlite. I throw a good handful of homemade compost and a bit of micro life rich pelleted feed in per gallon of soil as well. And currently im just bottle feeding on top of that mix. You can make about 5x the volume of soil for the price doing this vs buying fox farm. Fox farm is fantastic soil though, but you still prob wanna add just a hair extra perlite to it.

 

[Captspaulding]

Only time you should be ph’ing, is if the local water facility has just cleaned the water basins and it smells of chlorine and like scale at the spicket.

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

Don’t need to ph anything in soil bud.
If you will be in happy frog, don’t worry about that.

this is bad advice for literally every growing method that isnt using tap water and synthetic nutes chaulk full of PH stabilizers.

 

[Robbies]

Ok thank you so much if like to go organic but I definitely will be getting a pH meter the soil I replanted in was soil with compost nutrients I'm gonna be buying happy frog soil today after work and the nutrients I been using lately is rainbow grow or crown jewels gold or whatever it's called that considered organic right?

Try Dr Organics living soil + amendments etc. then you can patch the P/H meter. You can leave this soil in your will to your grandchildren.

 

[Captspaulding]

The crown jewels is, the soil, both the MG and (iirc, havent used it ni well over a decade) so is the happy frog nutrients in the soil (i may be confusing it with ocean forest idr)


If you are mixing synthetic and organics, and your fertilizer doesnt have PH stablizers in it, you should def still be PH'ing your intake water. i dont know anything about that jewel stuff, but its omri listed organic, so its highly unlikely itll be anything but quite acidic. That may create problems later on with the time released nutrients in your soil im not sure.

My soil mix is just cheap-o potting soil with no nutes (hyponex right now, its the dirt cheap crap)

with all the twigs and bark screened out. Then i cut the filteres oil 50/50 with peat, then cut that mix with about 30% perlite. I throw a good handful of homemade compost and a bit of micro life rich pelleted feed in per gallon of soil as well. And currently im just bottle feeding on top of that mix. You can make about 5x the volume of soil for the price doing this vs buying fox farm. Fox farm is fantastic soil though, but you still prob wanna add just a hair extra perlite to it.

Agree on the perlite. Never hurts.
But legit. I use my ph wand, to steady a wobbly table bro,

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

Only time you should be ph’ing, is if the local water facility has just cleaned the water basins and it smells of chlorine and like scale at the spicket.

not true at all lol


If you mix most synthetic bottle feed nutes on the market into distilled or RO water youll be giving plants feed often down at 5ph or lower.


in most bottle feeding methods thats not just bad, itll kill your plants after 3-4 feedings lol



Telling people to avoid PH meters is just bad advice. 100% especially when you dont even know what their grow method is, and neither do they yet.

 

[Captspaulding]

this is bad advice for literally every growing method that isnt using tap water and synthetic nutes chaulk full of PH stabilizers.

Wow. No it’s really not bad advice.

 

[Captspaulding]

not true at all lol


If you mix most synthetic bottle feed nutes on the market into distilled or RO water youll be giving plants feed often down at 5ph or lower.


in mot bottle feeding methods thats not just bad, itll kill your plants after 3-4 waterings lol

Bro I haven’t phd in years. The soil has buffers man.

 

[Captspaulding]

Bro I haven’t phd in years. The soil has buffers man.

Just wasting money.

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

Any of these will do or do you have a suggestion

those are soil testers.



And yes, PH is critical in MG soils, youll kill your plants otherwise.



i have to ph my water, my container plants die if i dont lol. my well water comes out the RO at like 5.5, after mixing feed its like 4.5


i cna take a clone and feed it nutrient solutions from my water un PH'd and you can watch it die within 3-4 feedings if you want. all the calcium and magnesium will lock out after the first watering, itll be all scarred up by the second feeding, and itll die after the 3rd lol

 

[Captspaulding]

not true at all lol


If you mix most synthetic bottle feed nutes on the market into distilled or RO water youll be giving plants feed often down at 5ph or lower.


in most bottle feeding methods thats not just bad, itll kill your plants after 3-4 feedings lol



Telling people to avoid PH meters is just bad advice. 100% especially when you dont even know what their grow method is, and neither do they yet.

Yeah I disagree, like I said before, it’s really not bad advice.

 

[Captspaulding]

those are soil testers.



And yes, PH is critical in MG soils, youll kill your plants otherwise.

They shouldn’t even be in miracle grow to begin with.

 

[Thatoneguyyouknow_]

PH'ing being important or not isnt a yes or no thing.


Its entirerely 100% bound to the context of the grow methods being used.


it may not be necessary how you grow, but for *most* growing methods indoors, its not just necessary, its critical. that makes it bad advice imho lol, yes. Especially if not clarifying grow methods being used first


thats a great example of bad advice lol. He's specifically using unbuffered miracle grow soil that sits around 6ph on its own. And will start to drop quickly after feeding with just about any nutrient on the market


The ph of the soil and the osmocote effects that has with cannabis is specifically the reason we avoid that soil lol. It drifts way too acidic and damages plants.