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HELP saving my struggling plants

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Need help figuring out how to save my plants. This is my first grow. Seedling stage went really good. Super healthy. Then I transplanted a little too early from a nursery cup to a 1 gallon fabric pot. Roots were not fully developed. When i transplanted I forgot to put perlite in the soil and realized that the soil was not draining well at all and started to notice a deficiency. Despite efforts to allow pot to dry out I re transplanted into better draining soil and been struggling ever since. I am using coco loco with worm castings and all purpose 4-4-4. My temps have been steady at 77° and humidity between 50-55% and ph my water at 6.4. I dont know what else to do. Growth has pretty much stopped. The soil doesn't smell bad but the smell of my plants has weakened and they just keep getting worse. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I plan on using cal mag and recharge on my next watering. Need to know if they are a lost cause and need to start over.
 

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I would keep growing them, most of the damage I see is from unproper drainage or overwatering. If theyre still getting worse water less often but with enough water for a tiny bit of runoff, just a tiny bit so you know all the pot is wet, and dont water again until they ask you to (leaves will get a bit droopy, will go back to normal when you water again and then you will have an idea on how long it takes them to drink it all). Get some arlite/clay pebbles and put them on the plate below the pot, that way the pot will be lifted, arlite is very porous so even if its touching the pots it will still be a million times better than a hard non porous surface.
 
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You did'nt say if these were auto flowers which i will just guess that they are. One too many times transplant on autos they hate it especially without good roots. And only 1gal pots? One looks like it's getting ready to flower? I'd not give anything nute wise till they recover. If they are photos, way to small of pots.
 
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I would keep growing them, most of the damage I see is from unproper drainage or overwatering. If theyre still getting worse water less often but with enough water for a tiny bit of runoff, just a tiny bit so you know all the pot is wet, and dont water again until they ask you to (leaves will get a bit droopy, will go back to normal when you water again). Get some arlite/clay pebbles and put them on the plate below the pot, that way the pot will be lifted, arlite is very porous so even if its touching the pots it will still be a million times better than a hard non porous surface.
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Appreciate it. The last watering was super light. I only did 250ml and focused more on the outside of the roots hoping they start reaching out for water. Just frustrating watching them go from really good to shit and not being able to fix it lol
 
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You did'nt say if these were auto flowers which i will just guess that they are. One too many times transplant on autos they hate it especially without good roots. And only 1gal pots? One looks like it's getting ready to flower? I'd not give anything nute wise till they recover. If they are photos, way to small of pots.
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They are photos. The reason I did not go bigger because the roots were not even close to being developed around the plant.
 
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Appreciate it. The last watering was super light. I only did 250ml and focused more on the outside of the roots hoping they start reaching out for water. Just frustrating watching them go from really good to shit and not being able to fix it lol
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I understand your frustration but you can still get them back on track maybe if it were something more destructive like completely yellowed or burnt leaves then it would be more of a problem but those leaves can still photosynthesize pretty well. It just shows stress on the roots, due to the transplants and probably wet for too long. I plant the germinated seed in my final 7gal pots, I water only near the stem when its small but when they have 2 nodes or so I do an intense watering making sure all the substrate is wet and then wait until the plants ask me for water. When the roots have not colonized all the pot is really easy to overwater your pot. Getting used to how much it weights when its recently watered and how much it weights right before watering is also a very good way of knowing but sometimes, like if you have a net, you cant lift the pots anymore so thats the safe route, wait for them to ask for it if youre not sure.
 
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Your roots need oxygen, especially if soil has been wet along time. Give them a shot of regular 3% h2o2. The stuff from the medicine aisle at the grocery store. Split a qt bottle between the three. It will boost oxygen and kill any pathogens from the stagnant water. You can reintroduce beneficials on the next watering. They should perk up within a day or so.
 
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Your roots need oxygen, especially if soil has been wet along time. Give them a shot of regular 3% h2o2. The stuff from the medicine aisle at the grocery store. Split a qt bottle between the three. It will boost oxygen and kill any pathogens from the stagnant water. You can reintroduce beneficials on the next watering. They should perk up within a day or so.
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I looked into that. But I'm growing in organic living soil and will run the risk of killing off beneficial microbes.
 
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I looked into that. But I'm growing in organic living soil and will run the risk of killing off beneficial microbes.
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It won't kill all of the microbes, and like I said, you can reintroduce your beneficials on the next watering. You can have all the microbes in the world, but without oxygen, they ain't doin shit. In fact, without oxygen in your root zone, most are probably dead or dormant already.
 
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It won't kill all of the microbes, and like I said, you can reintroduce your beneficials on the next watering. You can have all the microbes in the world, but without oxygen, they ain't doin shit. In fact, without oxygen in your root zone, most are probably dead or dormant already.
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Btw, I grow in organic living soil as well. H2o2 has been my go to when I find a stunted, over watered, neglected hideaway that escaped my attention. Beneficial microbes are easily reintroduced with one serving of a good compost tea or quality inoculant like plant success soluble.
 
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Btw, I grow in organic living soil as well. H2o2 has been my go to when I find a stunted, over watered, neglected hideaway that escaped my attention. Beneficial microbes are easily reintroduced with one serving of a good compost tea or quality inoculant like plant success soluble.
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Okay awesome. Thank you for the help. Im gonna give it a try.
 
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C0pperh3ad said:
Btw, I grow in organic living soil as well. H2o2 has been my go to when I find a stunted, over watered, neglected hideaway that escaped my attention. Beneficial microbes are easily reintroduced with one serving of a good compost tea or quality inoculant like plant success soluble.
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How exactly do I dilute it?
 
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For your case its suggested here that you add 60ml of 3% hydrogen peroxide for every liter of water. I never use it for watering so probably better if you wait for @C0pperh3ad to answer, I just chime in in case you need to do it and he doesnt respond.

How to use Hydrogen Peroxide (H2O2) for plants – lovethatleaf

Hydrogen peroxide (H2O2), occurs naturally in rainwater and acts as nature's cleanser. It oxygenates soil and bodies of water, is completely non-toxic and safe to use around food, people and animals. Adding it when watering your indoor plants, mimics what Mother Nature does for outdoor plants...
www.lovethatleaf.co.nz
 
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Also I would still buy the arlite or expanded clay pebbles and put them on the plate to elevate the pots, hydrogen peroxide is just a quick solution for 1 day if theyre in need. Next time you have to prepare the pots, use some of those clay pebbles inside of the pot on the bottom, 2-3 fingers of density should be enough to have a drainage inside your pot and then you wont need it outside and roots can also grow through arlite. Some people grow only in arlite for hydroponics.
 
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I don't dilute at all, especially when the soil is already saturated. It not only adds oxygen but can clean up potential root rot. It won't hurt your plants one bit. Split a qt between the three. Try to keep it near the center. Your microbes from the edges and bottom will recolonize, probably before you need to water again.
 
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And do what @Eledin said with the rocks
 
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And do what @Eledin said with the rocks
 
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Are you completely sure about the undiluted hydrogen peroxide? My hydrogen peroxide 3% has a PH of 4, I wouldnt use it undiluted to water my plants. Maybe youre using another kind of hydrogen peroxide that is not the farmaceutical one? Could you be more specific? What % hydrogen peroxide?
 
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When that extra oxygen separates the pH naturally goes up. The plants don't actually intake the h202 either. A one time application won't affect your soil ph and organic soil is very forgiving anyway. I don't ever measure ph. It's very easy to overthink things.the best grows are simple grows. KISS always
 
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3% h202 at the grocery store for $1 a qt
 
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