Help with leaf curl

Rushoe · Aug 18, 2010

I have my outlaw og in canna coco 50%perlite hempy bucket and I have been using 5mill Magical cuz I use RO water 6mill mirco and 9mill bloom GH nutes for the whole grow and now that she is in 20 or 24 days I have been giving 5mill of liquid kool bloom can any one here help me out here I would think this is a weak mix for a og but I am guessing the leaf curl is from to much something this is my 1st time growing in coco and she is under a 250 hps.

dican01 · Aug 18, 2010

over fertilization is my guess. try cutting back on the nutrients and see what happens. no big deal. plant look good.

motherlode · Aug 18, 2010

really nice girl! cant see that its too bad, slight clawing at worst and maybe some burnt leaf tips.

do you always give her nutes when she gets watered? OG arent big feeders a lot of the time and its always nice to give then just ph water every third time.

Rushoe · Aug 18, 2010

yeah I have been feeding with nutes every time since I it went in to flower I have only gave it one plain water feeding...Giving a few more doesn't sound like a bad idea I don't want and salt build up thanx fellas ....

dican01 · Aug 19, 2010

Rushoe said:
yeah I have been feeding with nutes every time since I it went in to flower I have only gave it one plain water feeding...Giving a few more doesn't sound like a bad idea I don't want and salt build up thanx fellas ....

sounds like you are on the right path. giving them some enzymes, sugars, superthrive, and/or humic/fulvic acids wouldn't hurt either if you got them.

motherlode · Aug 19, 2010

clawing can be over watering too

cannagirl · Aug 19, 2010

I would just flush her for a few days, you will definitely have enough nute build up in the soil to last her a good few days before you need to add food back.

Seamaiden · Aug 19, 2010

Not with coco I wouldn't do a flush for a few days, not unless you're ready to harvest. Coco can be treated like soil in many ways, but not all.

I personally don't see much wrong with how that plant is developing. Yeah, you've got that leaf curl, I get the same thing on some girls and the easiest thing to do is bump the nutes down a notch. Adding sugars will help boost any microbe activity assuming you have any.

Are you feeding to the point of 20% run-off minimum? If not, then your girl could use a mild flush, then start over, this time making certain that you get about 20% run-off. That goes a long way toward preventing salts/nutes from building up.

Skunkmasterflex · Aug 19, 2010

that looks like too much Nitrogen to me bro....over feeding leads to leaf burn and shit. just looks to me like you need to drop the N and keep all the other shit. try and flush with RO water, test your Ph and then feed accordingly

Rushoe · Aug 20, 2010

Thank you every one for the help I gave one feeding of just 5mill magical(I use RO water) and I ph to 5.8 but maybe I should give few more plain watering and I am gonna back off a bit on the N a lil bit see what happends I wounder if the leafs will become straight again???..... Again thanx everyone for the help...Oh and yes I do give them about 20 to 30 % run off all the time when I feed wich is everyday ...I always thought that coco needed to feed with nutes every time you feed I could see how maybe one just plain water would be ok but I guess a few plain waterings wont hurt???????

Seamaiden · Aug 20, 2010

I don't know if I would say "a few" plain waterings, but perhaps doing a little alternating, perhaps weekly or biweekly? Honestly, though, your girls look very good to me. If those were mine, I'd be afraid to mess around trying to fix a little thing like that for fear of creating a bigger problem.

cannagirl · Aug 20, 2010

Seamaiden said:
Not with coco I wouldn't do a flush for a few days, not unless you're ready to harvest. Coco can be treated like soil in many ways, but not all...

Yes in straight Coco you are correct, you cant flush for a few days, but he is also using 50% perlite, and shit causes salt build up. with a 50/50 mixture either run your nutes with a drop of drip clean or run flush once a week.

Rushoe · Aug 21, 2010

I like the sound of the once a week flush....And I hear what your saying about making a bigger problem maybe once a week with a lil bit of flora klean?????

Rushoe · Aug 21, 2010

And will the leafs perk back up to the way they once were I wouldn't think that they would ......

Fred · Aug 21, 2010

I just had this happen to me. I used Pura Vida for the first time and my plants curled. I used plain water a couple times and then went with a light feeding of bio-bizz. They did look back up but it took a while. They were ready to chop by the time I got em right. I think mine was a little worse. Fertilizer built up from so many feedings. Flushing and new low ppm nutes should help.

Mine stopped drinking and sat in wet soil for a while causing the overwatered look. That added to the claw effect.

Plant looks really good Rushoe. I agree with seamaiden. Don't try to fix em so hard you make it worse. Either way man you have been working your magic on that one. Nice 250w work!

fred

Rushoe · Aug 21, 2010

Fred said:
I just had this happen to me. I used Pura Vida for the first time and my plants curled. I used plain water a couple times and then went with a light feeding of bio-bizz. They did look back up but it took a while. They were ready to shop by the time I got em right. I think mine was a little worse. Fertilizer built up from so many feedings. Flushing and new low ppm nutes should help.

Mine stopped drinking and sat in wet soil for a while causing the overwatered look. That added to the claw effect.

Plant looks really good Rushoe. I agree with seamaiden. Don't try to fix em so hard you make it worse. Either way man you have been working your magic on that one. Nice 250w work!

fred

That's kool they perk back up I hope mine do I would feel alot better if they did but I guess it's no big deal...And thanx bro I have been really working on her along side with my out door in coco as well ....And I have a new tent I am trying to set up with a 600 a buddy of mine is gonna lend me ...I just don't wanna start with out the ac and my carbon fillter so should be up in the next few weeks....And I love this 250 1st time with Casey Jones I got 6 and half zips of her and last run I did the same outlaw og and got about 4 zips I hope for the same this run but we will see since this one didn't veg as long hempy bucket the poor mans hydro bucket that's what's up...

Seamaiden · Aug 21, 2010

Six and a half zips from a 250? Dude! You're rockin' it!

cannagirl said:
Yes in straight Coco you are correct, you cant flush for a few days, but he is also using 50% perlite, and shit causes salt build up. with a 50/50 mixture either run your nutes with a drop of drip clean or run flush once a week.

I didn't know that perlite causes salts to build up, but I do know what happens when you flush coco for three days in a row mid-flower. I have my coco mixed with about 30% perlite, but perhaps that also makes a difference. Flushing or straight water 1x/week seems to not make them get all whonky like doing that two days or more in a row can.

Rushoe · Aug 21, 2010

Yeah I didn't know about perlite causing more salt build up as well good to know I think I am gonna stick to once a week flushing.....Six and half yeah man I thought that was good for a noobie like myself but then again that was with a good yielder CJ...But then take a look at tobar the 8th I think that's his name on here 14 zips of the white with a 250....And that is a lower yielding strain then the cj so I guess it's all how you do that damn thing...

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