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Hi,I need help on growing my seedlings, I've growing clones before that I found easy,now can't get any clones and I'm growing from seeds,at least I wish,every time I get to the 14 day mark,I notice my leaves starting to turn yellow, I've done everything I can think of,they eventually die,I don't know what I'm doing wrong, any help and advice would be great, also would love to purchase some clones,growing for my personal health issues,thanks in advance.
 

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what's your medium: brand and/or composition ? (soil, coco, mix)

what's your watering pratice: size of pot, watering amount and frequency ?

also photos under natural light are preferred...
 
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The first small round leafs are supposed to die off once the plant is on her way
 
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HerbalEdu said:
what's your medium: brand and/or composition ? (soil, coco, mix)

what's your watering pratice: size of pot, watering amount and frequency ?

also photos under natural light are preferred...
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Hi,I'm using coco natural soil mix in 15 ltr pots,I water using every night if needed,my ph levels are 6.5 and temperature goes upto 24°c during daytime and drops to 20°c at night humidity is around 50%,I have them on a timer at 18/6 under a 250w light,my last 5 seedlings eventually died,ive started 2 new ones but they seem to be going the same way,I only used water for the first 14 days then I put in 0.2ml of pk 9/18 plant magic but slowly over the following days they seem to be not growing and staying the same,I will get new pictures of the new ones up with natural light,thanks for your response,every little helps.
 
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My two new dodgy seedlings
 

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The first small round leafs are supposed to die off once the plant is on her way
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Yes but after that my leaves go next,I'm doing something way wrong
 
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unproper watering pratice is often the cause for seedlings bein stunt on start up.

cannabis seedling don't like either permanently too wet or too dry soil, they need an alternance of both. Overwatering isn't necessarely watering with too much water, that's not an issue if you let it dry enough afterward, but it could be watering too often with small amount of water.

also mixing soil and coco isn't ideal.

and you might have another issue going on with the discoloration, at this size with soil seedling shouldn't need any nutrients and if they need anything at this stage that's more N than PK but the soil should provide more than enough at this stage ...
 
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HerbalEdu said:
unproper watering pratice is often the cause for seedlings bein stunt on start up.

cannabis seedling don't like either permanently too wet or too dry soil, they need an alternance of both. Overwatering isn't necessarely watering with too much water, that's not an issue if you let it dry enough afterward, but it could be watering too often with small amount of water.

also mixing soil and coco isn't ideal.

and you might have another issue going on with the discoloration, at this size with soil seedling shouldn't need any nutrients and if they need anything at this stage that's more N than PK but the soil should provide more than enough at this stage ...
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Sorry it's just 100% natural coco,not soil,my mistake, I will see how these to get on in the next few days,in the other hand I have another two seedlings getting ready to pot, I will go over everything twice this time,hoping it goes better, thank you very much for your information, I will take every into hand and try my best to get them going,fingers crossed,will keep updates.
 
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I tend to agree with HerbalEdu with over/ under watering, but your light? Wattage, brand, intensity, height, schedule?? Possibly cooking the babies?
 
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Definitely need better watering practice, and a much smaller pot to start in.
The little plant is all bloated leaf tips curling down.
Def looks like it’s a bit warm for that strain too.

@HerbalEdu has your back.
 
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All good advice given. To share my method in coco, i sprout in a small pete pot for the first few days, hardly requireing watering in this time. Then i up-pot to 16oz nursery bags where they stay until 15-20 days old. Shortly after up-potting im watering the nursery bags 1x a day once i start getting root stuble around the bags i feed 2x. My methods of course are one of many ways to skin this cat, you'll button down your methods soon enough, happy growing homie!
 
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Keep in mind that coco has zero nutrients, its a totally blank slate. Seedlings bring enough nutes on their own to get started, but that little sack lunch runs out real fast.
 
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Sorry it's just 100% natural coco,not soil,my mistake, I will see how these to get on in the next few days,in the other hand I have another two seedlings getting ready to pot, I will go over everything twice this time,hoping it goes better, thank you very much for your information, I will take every into hand and try my best to get them going,fingers crossed,will keep updates.
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i'm not a coco specialist, but here's some tutorials with the good pratices when growing in 100% coco:

How to Grow Cannabis with Coco Coir | Grow Weed Easy

Ever wondered how to use coco coir blocks to make a cannabis-friendly rich potting mix? This tutorial breaks it down...
www.growweedeasy.com

Coco Coir: The Most Flexible Cannabis Grow Medium | Grow Weed Easy

by Nebula Haze Coco coir (often referred to simply as “coco”) is the most flexible grow medium. Made out of coconut shells that would otherwise be thrown away, this unique substance has surprising benefits for cannabis plants. Coco coir is made of coconut husks that have been ground up. It is...
www.growweedeasy.com

coco is considered as soiless medium aka hydroponic growing method it has some very specific requirement, you'll find all the what and what not to do in this two articles.
 
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Captspaulding said:
Definitely need better watering practice, and a much smaller pot to start in.
The little plant is all bloated leaf tips curling down.
Def looks like it’s a bit warm for that strain too.

@HerbalEdu has your back.
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I did start in a smaller pot,I only transferred them last night because I was thinking they would get better in a bigger pot with fresh soil,hoping the leaves would correct themselves,and yes I think I have been frying them,to much heat,I have a good airflow coming in and out,I've made a few adjustments,will see how they are in the next few days,thank you for your time and advice.
 
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i'm not a coco specialist, but here's some tutorials with the good pratices when growing in 100% coco:

How to Grow Cannabis with Coco Coir | Grow Weed Easy

Ever wondered how to use coco coir blocks to make a cannabis-friendly rich potting mix? This tutorial breaks it down...
www.growweedeasy.com

Coco Coir: The Most Flexible Cannabis Grow Medium | Grow Weed Easy

by Nebula Haze Coco coir (often referred to simply as “coco”) is the most flexible grow medium. Made out of coconut shells that would otherwise be thrown away, this unique substance has surprising benefits for cannabis plants. Coco coir is made of coconut husks that have been ground up. It is...
www.growweedeasy.com

coco is considered as soiless medium aka hydroponic growing method it has some very specific requirement, you'll find all the what and what not to do in this two articles.
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Thank you herbalEdu for taking the time,I will have a look through them,appreciate you buddy,let's hope I get to the bottom of my problem.
 
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I tend to agree with HerbalEdu with over/ under watering, but your light? Wattage, brand, intensity, height, schedule?? Possibly cooking the babies?
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Yes my last ones definitely got cooked,what is the best temperature for this stage I'm at ?
 
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Thank you herbalEdu for taking the time,I will have a look through them,appreciate you buddy,let's hope I get to the bottom of my problem.
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I had a look through them and got a free guide book to herbalEdu,thank you for your support mate,finally getting somewhere.
 
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Yes my last ones definitely got cooked,what is the best temperature for this stage I'm at ?
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recommanded temp for growing cannabis are between 18°C to 28°C ( 64 -82 °F)

lower than 18 growth will be slowed, and well cannabis can handle higher than 28°C without much issue below 37°C tho' seedling may be more sensitive to heat than older plants.
 
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Everything @HerbalEdu said^^^ I'll add my Start-up: If its a Coco run?, I plant seeds directly after overnight Soak 3:1 H20/H202, (sometimes shells are already cracked sometimes not) I dont like to disturb the taproot is why they are planted immediately after soak, "I like them to anchor/sprout properly on their own". They are then put in "dampened" Coco (pH 6.0) in Solo Cups, do not water again for several days, I use clear cups inside of opaque cups, if you zoom the photo you can see the humidity in the coco and healthy root hairs on the roots, this "humidity/oxygen zone" is perfect environ for the roots. After a week I will start around 75-100ppm Nutrient Solution, "3rd picture" they are starting to show signs of Hunger, I will up my solution it to 200-300ppm. Ive used "FloraNova Grow" on all my seedlings for about 6 years now, its gentle on seedlings and has everything they need. After 2.5 wks these went into Permanent Pots, as these are Auto's, (autos run side by side with my Photo's till the Flip) After Wk 4 Veg, I start with MegaCrop Salt Nutrients.

tip: use a soldering iron to burn perfect round holes in plastic cups.

these are Auto's so they went directly into permanent, 3 gal pots, they will grow with my Photoperiods until the 12/12 flip.

keep at it my'dude!
 

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I did start in a smaller pot,I only transferred them last night because I was thinking they would get better in a bigger pot with fresh soil,hoping the leaves would correct themselves,and yes I think I have been frying them,to much heat,I have a good airflow coming in and out,I've made a few adjustments,will see how they are in the next few days,thank you for your time and advice.
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It’s kind of counterintuitive, buddy. The thing is is when a plant is so small and a pot is so big every time you feed it the majority of the feed goes right past the root zone of a small plant and settles at the bottom after a while. it’ll be so saturated down there. The roots will never have a chance to penetrate it Because roots need air in order to be able to Grow, this is when you hear about people who go to harvest they cut their plant down and they go to pull the Root ball out and only 1/2 to 1/3 of the dirt is taken up with roots and the rest of it is so saturated they never bothered to try and get to that part of the pot, And that instance is the lucky one it can lead to a whole myriad of other problems so it’s always better to start in a small pot and hang out until at least the plants full veg out of seedling and growing healthy on the top of the dirt as well as the bottom
 
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