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Mr.GreenthumbOG said:
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What are you using to measure ppm and ph levels?
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A ppm meter and a ph meter bottled water ppm 125
 
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Not enough Calcium or Nitrogen, and too much P and K for one thing. Those nutrient ratios are harmful to plants at normal ppm concentrations. Although if you say 125ppm is your feed then I'm not sure what's going on, that's extremely low and I'd say that's your problem also, but the feed ratio isn't helping any.
 
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Not enough Calcium or Nitrogen, and too much P and K for one thing. Those nutrient ratios are harmful to plants at normal ppm concentrations. Although if you say 125ppm is your feed then I'm not sure what's going on, that's extremely low and I'd say that's your problem also, but the feed ratio isn't helping any.
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125 is the ppm after i add the nutrients what would i add to bring up ppm wuthout effecting ph
 
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Mr Greenthumb - your patience is world class.

I only lasted one reply.

There is no way in hell he is adding all that shit and ending up at 125 ppm. We have given sound advice, and have been immediately scorned by OP. The self-described black-thumb might be listening to Jimmy, but he ain’t hearing Jimmy.

Extra points to all those who get that movie reference.

Peace.
 
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125 is the ppm after i add the nutrients what would i add to bring up ppm wuthout effecting ph
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Not possible. Your probes are garbage. Or your not adding enough food.
 
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Mr Greenthumb - your patience is world class.

I only lasted one reply.

There is no way in hell he is adding all that shit and ending up at 125 ppm. We have given sound advice, and have been immediately scorned by OP. The self-described black-thumb might be listening to Jimmy, but he ain’t hearing Jimmy.

Extra points to all those who get that movie reference.

Peace.
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Four hours after flush and refill
 

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Water looks pretty clear. Add some more food.
Add food. Mix it up. Measure again.
 
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Water looks pretty clear. Add some more food.
Add food. Mix it up. Measure again.
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powdered mix no colors disolves ...meh
 
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Meters are junk or you're not adding nutes at correct mL to overall gallons of water
 
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Meters are junk or you're not adding nutes at correcr mL to overall gallons of water
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4-5 grams per gallon of water as per directions. Mg Scale Tare. Yes my meters are POS but when used against a prof. grow ppm meter it was not off.
 
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Mix up a 1 gal batch and measure that while its still in the jug. Just doesn't add up that you're adding to a solution and the parts per million of that solution don't rise
 
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Mix up a 1 gal batch and measure that while its still in the jug. Just doesn't add up that you're adding to a solution and the parts per million of that solution don't rise
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the ppms do go up i just checked the ppm of a fresh bottle of spring water 94 ppm but 145 after 1/3 stregnth moab only.
i will get back to you i have to finish this and start another. Im not playing games or being tricky. Im merely observing and reporting
 
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Dont think you are just trying to help

Add nutrients to raise ppm use water to lower ppm, simple science.
 
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iX_Lazy_Xi said:
Dont think you are just trying to help

Add nutrients to raise ppm use water to lower ppm, simple science.
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ok great so my water is at 94 ppm before nutrients d 425 after if i add more that is a burn gaurantee
 
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Depending on the stage of growth and n-p-k ratio not necessarily true. 425 is in the ballpark for veg. If plant is already stressed there is potential to just increase uptake problems with salt build up in root zone.
 
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Depending on the stage of growth and n-p-k ratio not necessarily true. 425 is in the ballpark for veg. If plant is already stressed there is potential to just increase uptake problems with salt build up in root zone.
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My vegetative stage is perfect. My problem begins when i flip the lights. With sunleaves base is used for first week or two in flower without anything else. week two in flower the PK+CalMag gets added. it is week one wher the burn look begins.
 
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You don't have enough N initially and wayyyyy to much P and K thats why you're seeing issues at flip
 
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You don't have enough N initially and wayyyyy to much P and K thats why you're seeing issues at flip
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8-5-13 is what the container says.
 
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Dude you have experienced, successful growers here trying to help you.

And your stubborn ass won’t take responsibility for completely effing up your plants.

Listen to these good people. Stop arguing when you are 100% uninformed and off base. No need to start multiple threads here asking the same questions - all of the advice you get will be the same:

LEARN HOW TO PROPERLY FEED AND CARE FOR THIS PLANT. THEY ARE FINNICKY BITCHES, AND CANNOT HANDLE THE HELL THAT YOU ARE INSISTENT ON PUTTING THEM THROUGH.

I believe the appropriate phrase here is:

Hashtag Rant Over
 
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Dude you have experienced, successful growers here trying to help you.

And your stubborn ass won’t take responsibility for completely effing up your plants.

Listen to these good people. Stop arguing when you are 100% uninformed and off base. No need to start multiple threads here asking the same questions - all of the advice you get will be the same:

LEARN HOW TO PROPERLY FEED AND CARE FOR THIS PLANT. THEY ARE FINNICKY BITCHES, AND CANNOT HANDLE THE HELL THAT YOU ARE INSISTENT ON PUTTING THEM THROUGH.

I believe the appropriate phrase here is:

Hashtag Rant Over
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Ive looked and looked. Only one person has answered my question.

Im using nutrients designed for hydroponic systems. Im using it as directed. the plant below was grown with the same stuff. As I have said you are giving advice to someone who was growing before you were a thought in your daddys pants more than likely. I asked a question if my ppms were 125 how would i raise them AFTER i added the manufacturers reccomended nutrient amounts using a micro gram scale. Why dont you get off your high horse and just say hey based upon the thread Information, I dont know. I have said its just this strain that does it. Im being told that in seven weeks of flower I should UP the Nitrogen by one person. Another tells me Its the moab when the burning occoured before I added it ever. another tells me its still the high P and K well they are premixed and not adjustable nothing I can do there. only one person told me about salts to raise ppms which i generally do not pay attention to since there (other than salts) is not a way to adjust the ppms in pure water like adding ph up or down. add more water i hear. the water is 94.ppm if i add more the ppms go down. While technically correct information it is also 100%. irrelavant to the situation. You must have worked for microsnot

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