High THCV strains and breeding them

Moe.Red · Jan 17, 2021

Well, looking around including on this forum

I ran in 11/13 schedule based on DJ Shorts observations that it brought out different phenotype expressions.

Maybe I should try it. It will lower power consumption and thereby slow things down. Maybe hold off on Far Red.

growsince79 · Jan 17, 2021

Moe.Red said:
Well, looking around including on this forum

I ran in 11/13 schedule based on DJ Shorts observations that it brought out different phenotype expressions.

Maybe I should try it. It will lower power consumption and thereby slow things down. Maybe hold off on Far Red.

Don't ya think the far red would make more stretch? Think hps vs mh.

Milson · Jan 17, 2021

growsince79 said:
Don't ya think the far red would make more stretch? Think hps vs mh.

I think it makes them branch more, personally. But you are right, it might make them stretch more too. Idk.

Moe.Red · Jan 17, 2021

growsince79 said:
Don't ya think the far red would make more stretch? Think hps vs mh.

Lemme get the vegg'd plants in here and we'll decide if we need any stretch.

Moe.Red · Jan 17, 2021

Milson said:
I think it makes them branch more, personally. But you are right, it might make them stretch more too. Idk.

So what does your perfect grow look like? Dou you scrog?

I shoot for a cola in each of the squares of the net.

Skeptik · Jan 17, 2021

Milson said:
Maybe you are right. Like i said, just what I do with equatorial strains.

Seems to be a lot of variability in the growth habit of sativas. The first sativa I grew, a Malawi (Ace), took 16 weeks of flowering to finish and it wasn't until I put her on a 10/14 light/dark schedule and cut her nitrogen PPM in half that she stopped stretching. She was an out of control monster. I expected the same habit from the Wild Thais I just harvested, but they were easy to manage and stopped stretching on their own about 4 weeks into 12/12. Experience with a particular strain seems to be key.

Moe.Red · Jan 17, 2021

First one in. Very good bones for scrogging. 1 month veg.

All environmentals now running. Tomorrow her 5 sisters will join her and the net will come down.

Milson · Jan 17, 2021

Moe.Red said:
So what does your perfect grow look like? Dou you scrog?

I shoot for a cola in each of the squares of the net.

I don't really think about my grows that way. I'm much more of a "me and the plants hanging out and getting to know each other" kind of grower. So I'm largely useless for this kind of optimization.

Skeptik · Jan 17, 2021

Moe.Red said:
So what does your perfect grow look like? Dou you scrog?

I shoot for a cola in each of the squares of the net.

That's what I shoot for with indicas and hybrids. While a full screen is optimal, I'm still getting a handle on scrogging sativas.

Milson · Jan 17, 2021

Milson said:
I don't really think about my grows that way. I'm much more of a "me and the plants hanging out and getting to know each other" kind of grower. So I'm largely useless for this kind of optimization.

I guess this is dodging the question.

I take as my ideal the expression genetics would have in a hotspot like the mountains of colombia, hawaii, thailand, etc. I try to create an environment that crudely mimics that. That includes light spectrum, hence my interest in far red:red ratios and how the plant uses those ratios to decide how to grow.

Moe.Red · Jan 17, 2021

Is there a downside to scrog or hydro? I've just always done it that way. My results are the kind of bud porn everyone posts. Just a friggin lot of it.

I'm contemplating cutting the pipes on the hydro system and pulling it all out when I finally harvest the JtR in the LED tent. Then it's just a matter of figuring out which pots and dirt. I've never grown in dirt. 2 tents - 2 systems... seems like a proper test and can check that soil vs. hydro variable off the list. My personal opinion is that it does not matter in the final product, but I am more than willing to be proven wrong.

Milson · Jan 17, 2021

Moe.Red said:
Is there a downside to scrog or hydro? I've just always done it that way. My results are the kind of bud porn everyone posts. Just a friggin lot of it.

I'm contemplating cutting the pipes on the hydro system and pulling it all out when I finally harvest the JtR in the LED tent. Then it's just a matter of figuring out which pots and dirt. I've never grown in dirt. 2 tents - 2 systems... seems like a proper test and can check that soil vs. hydro variable off the list. My personal opinion is that it does not matter in the final product, but I am more than willing to be proven wrong.

If you are getting good results then i would keep doing that! You seem to like to tinker and honestly hydro suits that great. Same with scrog.

Moe.Red · Jan 17, 2021

Milson said:
I guess this is dodging the question.

I take as my ideal the expression genetics would have in a hotspot like the mountains of colombia, hawaii, thailand, etc. I try to create an environment that crudely mimics that. That includes light spectrum, hence my interest in far red:red ratios and how the plant uses those ratios to decide how to grow.

I hear you. I'm kinda done power growing, I'm ready to let nature take back over. Unfortunately these plants coming in were prepped my typical scrogging way so I'll calm down on the veg on the seedlings too. Slow everything down a couple weeks.

Wait. I haven't moved the seedlings yet. Now would be the time to switch them to dirt.

MIMedGrower · Jan 17, 2021

Milson said:
I don't really think about my grows that way. I'm much more of a "me and the plants hanging out and getting to know each other" kind of grower. So I'm largely useless for this kind of optimization.

i really like how you put this. I am definitely this sort of grower. I want the plant to be “happy”. But how to quantify this for science?

Moe.Red · Jan 17, 2021

MIMedGrower said:
i really like how you put this. I am definitely this sort of grower. I want the plant to be “happy”. But how to quantify this for science?

Like he just did

growsince79 · Jan 17, 2021

Milson said:
I don't really think about my grows that way. I'm much more of a "me and the plants hanging out and getting to know each other" kind of grower. So I'm largely useless for this kind of optimization.

I think as more states legalize, prices will come down to the point that yield becomes less of a priority to most home growers. People will concentrate on other desirable traits like thcp and other stuff that still has yet to be discovered.

Milson · Jan 17, 2021

MIMedGrower said:
i really like how you put this. I am definitely this sort of grower. I want the plant to be “happy”. But how to quantify this for science?

I agree, you seem like this kind of grower.

Moe.Red · Jan 17, 2021

Skeptik said:
Seems to be a lot of variability in the growth habit of sativas. The first sativa I grew, a Malawi (Ace), took 16 weeks of flowering to finish and it wasn't until I put her on a 10/14 light/dark schedule and cut her nitrogen PPM in half that she stopped stretching. She was an out of control monster. I expected the same habit from the Wild Thais I just harvested, but they were easy to manage and stopped stretching on their own about 4 weeks into 12/12. Experience with a particular strain seems to be key.

I've got to figure out how to plant this. I can legally only grow 6 plants in each flower tent.

Sheberghan – The Real Seed Company

Malawi Gold – The Real Seed Company

Iranian – The Real Seed Company

Balkhi – The Real Seed Company

No tracking on the other order yet.

I can run less than 6, but not 2 of each. Gonna have to choose what's first and if its compatible with anything else.

growsince79 · Jan 17, 2021

Moe.Red said:
I've got to figure out how to plant this. I can legally only grow 6 plants in each flower tent.

Sheberghan – The Real Seed Company

Malawi Gold – The Real Seed Company

Iranian – The Real Seed Company

Balkhi – The Real Seed Company

No tracking on the other order yet.

I can run less than 6, but not 2 of each. Gonna have to choose what's first and if its compatible with anything else.

Are they fem or regs?

Moe.Red · Jan 17, 2021

regs

I'm thinking they are all so different I gotta do a whole tent of 1 seed type. So germ all 12 seeds of whatever is most likely. Seems like the Malawi Gold has been called out several times this thread.

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