Ninjadogma said:

Be careful not to rely on any singular white paper as sound science. White papers are often used for internet trolling. Especially on scientific topics.

Now I'm interested in reading it to see how it tracks to my own observations. Plants will look nice and green under that dome for sure, but you'll get roots a lot quicker if you undome them by day 3 and let them scavenge a fan or two for mobile nutrients. Undoming them is potentially going to pull a lot of water quickly from the leaves with the vpd. This is where the cut ends come into play.

Probably the most overlooked strategy for successful cloning... Make sure you properly feed the mother plant 7-10 days before you take your cuts so it's got the nutrient load and hormones it needs for good root initiation.

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Jaden said:

Where is the rooting hormome concentrated in cannabis anyway?

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Smokey0418 said:

When I take my cuttings, I personally add stim root soft wood concentrate.
That way it speeds up the travel process, just in case I cut my leaves.

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Jaden said:

Im not relying on one paper. Its just an example with actual credibility. The biological facts that it points to aren't invented by the testing... just confirmed by it.

Im still waiting for a credible source that proves cutting the leaf tips leads to higher success. Im sure its out there... just... nobody can find it.

I also take cuttings and get them to make roots. Maybe i have a photo somewhere i can post. I'll have to check. Its actuallt not an amazing act of magic only profi gardeners can pull off.

You are right. Healthy cuttings from a healthy plant have the best success at rooting. We should also state some more obvious basics while we are at it. Like cleanliness. Another "overlooked" bit of info is that rusty and dirty cutting tools don't do as well as clean and disinfected tools. Who could have guessed?

Plus, those well qualified people doing valid botanical research on cannabis and publishing their work in the scientific journals just have out of control egos. You should write to them and tell them you may seem like a rando on the surface, but inside you are actually have more cred in the online community of this businesses website, and they should check their out of control egos. Your rep is bigger, longer faster... louder, wider. You tell em.


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Ninjadogma said:

What if I told you the leaves aren't cut for greater success rate of rooting, but rather for a lower failure rate by leaf collapse during the process. It has nothing to do with making roots. It's water management. This is one example of where white papers can become so focused that they lose the larger perspective.

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Jaden said:

I've heard the bruh science reasoning on this already, which doesn't take into account relative humidity under the lid.

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Jaden said:

I would say I saw it coming long before this like I was Nostradamus.

Do my leaves look collapsed in my photos bruh? No, It didn't happen. You know why?

The water/humidity trapped under that clear lid with the vents closed. When that moisture is all collected up on the walls of the lid... what do you think the relative humidity is in there? You think those leaves don't drink that water in there? You don't seem to grasp the basics of what leaves do or how.

Stop embarassing yourself and dig around for a valid credible source of information that trimming the leaf tips is better for cloning success rates and prove those overinflated egos of those well qualified idiots doing valid cannabis research and publishing in the scientific community that they don't know jack shit compared to you. If anyone is beyond learnin, its clearly you. You da man!

Lets put up the facts... one more time.

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Or spend some time on plant anatomy and biology. Level up. Start accepting reality bruh

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TannedViking said:

"Bruh" has either been lurking or just joined the forum and is already trying to assert himself over everyone else using other people's research as if it were his own, looking down at those that dont walk the exact same path. Results from tests done in a lab, finetuned in a way about 99% of the people here cannot afford or replicate.

Being wholy dependend on studies that can just as easily be disproven or corrected with more research doesnt sound like a good approach. Especially with cannabis, which has not been researched that much at all. It's a guideline to work with, not the bible. We're all waiting for Bugbee to show us the way.

Knowledge and experience are not the same but together make for great results. For instance if I dont want a mildew outbreak in an overcrowded cloning tray I'm snipping tips. Theres too many reasons to improvise. I take more of my research from proven growers than online lectures, but still do both. You do you, just curb it a bit.

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Jaden said:

Yeah, thats a good point we haven't touched on yet. Nice addition.

Genetics is also a factor for mildew resistance. Not just cloning success rates. Mine don't get mildew, they are absolutely healthy and green like everyone can see, they have natural resistance to mildew, thats true. Working clean, keeping them in high humidity for a couple weeks isn't a problem with strong genetics.

...But cheap commercially bred overblended plants? Absolutely watch out! and take extra care. They need that extra work and attention so they don't get attacked by pathogens, mildew, mold... bugs. Thats a given. Not just during cloning.

Bottom line, know what you are working with and adjust techniques as needed.

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Grownsince95 said:

Hey buddy, why not just come out and promote your product honestly instead of creepy unsolicited DMs with links to a seed company?

Talking a big game for credibility doesn't work around here.

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Jaden said:

Im not promoting anything shill, i made a recommendation for better genetics based on my experience. Get a life instead of acting like corporate cannabis police-man wannabe.

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Jaden said:

I would say I saw it coming long before this like I was Nostradamus.

Do my leaves look collapsed in my photos bruh? No, It didn't happen. You know why?

The water/humidity trapped under that clear lid with the vents closed. When that moisture is all collected up on the walls of the lid... what do you think the relative humidity is in there? You think those leaves don't drink that water in there? You don't seem to grasp the basics of what leaves do or how.

Stop embarassing yourself and dig around for a valid credible source of information that trimming the leaf tips is better for cloning success rates and prove those overinflated egos of those well qualified idiots doing valid cannabis research and publishing in the scientific community that they don't know jack shit compared to you. If anyone is beyond learnin, its clearly you. You da man!

Lets put up the facts... one more time.

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Or spend some time on plant anatomy and biology. Level up. Start accepting reality bruh

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Jaden said:

That's pathetic shill. Your mask has slipped.

You are falsely making accusations because you are over sensitive to making sure people are directed to the inferior junk. Twisting a simple recommendation into "promoting" because you don't want them to have alternatives to the inferior junk you profit from and you have to protect. Your job is to police what they see, limit their options, and shape their reality to chase hype, and junky bs genetics.

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Jaden said:

Sometimes I ask questions just to see what the answers are like. Like polling the community. It doesn't necessarily mean I don't know the answer. Those clones were smoked. I did share the process on page 1 of this thread. You can read it.. its still there. I am giving tips. The most important being: Understand, don't just mindlessly immitate. Give priority to knowledge over following.

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GNick55 said:

claiming science doesn’t know much about the marijuana plant

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Smokey0418 said:

When I take my cuttings, I personally add stim root soft wood concentrate.
That way it speeds up the travel process, just in case I cut my leaves.

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Jaden said:

Im still waiting for a credible source that proves cutting the leaf tips leads to higher success. Im sure its out there... just... nobody can find it.

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