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I'm so irritated right now I can't get one fucking clone to grow. This is like the sixth month I've tried and I officially give up I just fucking suck apparently. Just took the ones I had left and threw them in the trash I'm done trying after hundreds of dollars wasted and absolutely zero experience gained. I mean zero experience. Normally when I waste money at least I learned something. This is exactly why I didn't buy seeds cause I would've just burnt through even more money. And by the way we're talking like I've filled up all 28 slots in my dome each time and not fucking one has made it. My confidence in this hobby is gone now, I don't even wanna grow the plants I have in my tents anymore. At not one point did I go, "Oh, that's what I screwed up!"- it's just been "Oh, it's probably this" or "Oh, it's probably that" but I keep getting the same result. It's literally becoming insanity, at what point do I realize that I've tried this six times and gotten the same result every time, minus more money and happiness.

I have followed SEVERAL tutorials and guides WORD FOR WORD and can't get one fucking clone to survive. Never get past two weeks. I'm using only legitimate products and brands too. Using Root Riot Plugs- every fucking clone molded and died, using Vivosun Rockwool- every clone bent over and died / molded. This really blows and isn't fun in the slightest. My dream hobby is becoming off putting and I'm now wasting valuable time in my life on something I apparently won't ever get good at. I use GH Trio, Clonex, and PH all of my water and test it every single time before I feed plants. Don't have a single problem with my actual plants that are growing just these fucking clones for some reason. My regular plants are the greenest I've ever had in any previous grow.

I've tried solo cups with plastic bags, I even bought a stupid expensive AC Infinity Dome with a heating pad, I've wasted time and time again and now I'm at the point where just thinking about clones makes me angry and want to stop growing all together. I have no problem growing mature clones that I buy for some reason but literally every cutting I take dies and I'm over it. Maybe this is for someone else but I genuinely I hate trying to make clones now. I've lost about $400 on worthless crap I've bought for these clones. I'm returning every piece of equipment on Amazon that I still can right now. In the past six months there have consistently been maybe like 100 clones not one has made it through. They either dry up, bend over and sag, or turn into a mold monster. Really frustrating.

Sorry for the rant guys! Dream hobby went straight into the trash. This will probably be my final grow with the plants that I do have. Too much money spent and zero results and no knowledge gained (cloning). I literally feel as though I learned not one damn thing in the past six months. I feel like a total idiot right now; I can rip apart a Rolls Royce and stretch it 72 inches and rewire the whole damn car but I can't get a fucking plant to grow with every possible tool on the market in six months. What are the odds?
 
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I don’t deal with clones only because I don’t have any desire to keep a mother or keep smoking the same thing forever. I know it’s easy to get frustrated but maybe take this angle to invest some time in finding a reputable breeder on here and start with seeds. I know @Trustfall and @Captspaulding can help get you set up with some amazing strains with iron-clad genetics.
 
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I'm so irritated right now I can't get one fucking clone to grow. This is like the sixth month I've tried and I officially give up I just fucking suck apparently. Just took the ones I had left and threw them in the trash I'm done trying after hundreds of dollars wasted and absolutely zero experience gained. I mean zero experience. Normally when I waste money at least I learned something. This is exactly why I didn't buy seeds cause I would've just burnt through even more money. And by the way we're talking like I've filled up all 28 slots in my dome each time and not fucking one has made it. My confidence in this hobby is gone now, I don't even wanna grow the plants I have in my tents anymore. At not one point did I go, "Oh, that's what I screwed up!"- it's just been "Oh, it's probably this" or "Oh, it's probably that" but I keep getting the same result. It's literally becoming insanity, at what point do I realize that I've tried this six times and gotten the same result every time, minus more money and happiness.

I have followed SEVERAL tutorials and guides WORD FOR WORD and can't get one fucking clone to survive. Never get past two weeks. I'm using only legitimate products and brands too. Using Root Riot Plugs- every fucking clone molded and died, using Vivosun Rockwool- every clone bent over and died / molded. This really blows and isn't fun in the slightest. My dream hobby is becoming off putting and I'm now wasting valuable time in my life on something I apparently won't ever get good at. I use GH Trio, Clonex, and PH all of my water and test it every single time before I feed plants. Don't have a single problem with my actual plants that are growing just these fucking clones for some reason. My regular plants are the greenest I've ever had in any previous grow.

I've tried solo cups with plastic bags, I even bought a stupid expensive AC Infinity Dome with a heating pad, I've wasted time and time again and now I'm at the point where just thinking about clones makes me angry and want to stop growing all together. I have no problem growing mature clones that I buy for some reason but literally every cutting I take dies and I'm over it. Maybe this is for someone else but I genuinely I hate trying to make clones now. I've lost about $400 on worthless crap I've bought for these clones. I'm returning every piece of equipment on Amazon that I still can right now. In the past six months there have consistently been maybe like 100 clones not one has made it through. They either dry up, bend over and sag, or turn into a mold monster. Really frustrating.

Sorry for the rant guys! Dream hobby went straight into the trash. This will probably be my final grow with the plants that I do have. Too much money spent and zero results and no knowledge gained (cloning). I literally feel as though I learned not one damn thing in the past six months. I feel like a total idiot right now; I can rip apart a Rolls Royce and stretch it 72 inches and rewire the whole damn car but I can't get a fucking plant to grow with every possible tool on the market in six months. What are the odds?
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Do you happen to have any pictures? Is your heat mat temperature regulated? How much light intensity are you giving them? Too much can cause issues getting them to root.
 
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I am using a AIO Kit from AC Infinity labelled "AC Infinity Germination Dome Kit, Black, Indoor Gardening, Seed Starting, Cloning Plants" which includes Samsung LM301H Lights, a heating pad, and the dome itself. I have had the cuttings under 24/7 lighting. I have been very strict about using the an exact PH as required by whatever type of material I'm using for the cuttings. As far as nutrients, I followed the exact guideline from General Hydroponics specifically for "cuttings / seedlings" which I believe was 1tsp per gallon of all three nutrients in the GH Trio.

Every other plant in my house, especially my cannabis plants: Black Runtz, Candy Runtz, Super Runtz, Black Bubblegum Horchata, and Apple Tartz are looking amazing. Haven't had a single problem and they are currently in their first week of flowering after being in veg in the exact same environment for the past two months. All green, no yellow, no mold, nothing.

It feels so weird seeing friends literally throw cuttings in solo cups and having like a 90% rate and occasionally they just "forgot" about a snipping that just sat in a solo cup for months that looks healthier than mine ever have. Then I'm over here trying to do it in a dome that's supposedly meant for cloning and having worse luck then when I just threw cuttings in a cup and put them in my veg tent which was also a horrible failure.

I was about to give up last time when I was using the Root Riot Plugs but everyone told me the reason I was failing was because I didn't use rockwool cubes. So now I'm on Vivosun Rockwool Cubes like a week in and I've already thrown out more than half of my clones. All clean / sterile equipment, rubbing alcohol with every blade use, clean slanted cuts, soak in water for one minute before Clonex, then soak tip in Clonex for another minute, insert, and leave it alone besides occasional watering. I think cloning just isn't for me. Just sucks because I'd like to be able to keep a favorite strain going for a long time without worrying about someone else's schedule and or supply.
 
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I am using a AIO Kit from AC Infinity labelled "AC Infinity Germination Dome Kit, Black, Indoor Gardening, Seed Starting, Cloning Plants" which includes Samsung LM301H Lights, a heating pad, and the dome itself. I have had the cuttings under 24/7 lighting. I have been very strict about using the an exact PH as required by whatever type of material I'm using for the cuttings. As far as nutrients, I followed the exact guideline from General Hydroponics specifically for "cuttings / seedlings" which I believe was 1tsp per gallon of all three nutrients in the GH Trio.

Every other plant in my house, especially my cannabis plants: Black Runtz, Candy Runtz, Super Runtz, Black Bubblegum Horchata, and Apple Tartz are looking amazing. Haven't had a single problem and they are currently in their first week of flowering after being in veg in the exact same environment for the past two months. All green, no yellow, no mold, nothing.

It feels so weird seeing friends literally throw cuttings in solo cups and having like a 90% rate and occasionally they just "forgot" about a snipping that just sat in a solo cup for months that looks healthier than mine ever have. Then I'm over here trying to do it in a dome that's supposedly meant for cloning and having worse luck then when I just threw cuttings in a cup and put them in my veg tent which was also a horrible failure.

I was about to give up last time when I was using the Root Riot Plugs but everyone told me the reason I was failing was because I didn't use rockwool cubes. So now I'm on Vivosun Rockwool Cubes like a week in and I've already thrown out more than half of my clones. All clean / sterile equipment, rubbing alcohol with every blade use, clean slanted cuts, soak in water for one minute before Clonex, then soak tip in Clonex for another minute, insert, and leave it alone besides occasional watering. I think cloning just isn't for me. Just sucks because I'd like to be able to keep a favorite strain going for a long time without worrying about someone else's schedule and or supply.
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Sucks to see you so disheartened bro,
For what it's worth, I too had a very tough time getting proficient at cloning;
with hundreds of dollars and countless hours wasted.

I gave up several times b4 I finally found a method that worked for me.

Now, fast forward from 22yrs ago until now, I just hit 100% on my 1st try,
after all that time. Pretty incredible as I wasn't sure of my memory and kept
double guessing myself.

What I'm trying to say is that if I can do that on a chemo addled pea brain,
then anybody can, including you.

If you're willing to give it one more try, DM me and i'll try to walk you thru
my simple method step by step.
 
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I reckon your cubes are to wet I use the little round peat cubes u hydrate them squeeze excess water dip your cutting in clonex put under a dome and then only spray the cuts twice a day don’t water the cubes also I wipe out my domes every single day helps a lot with mold cleanliness helps a lot to new blades for cuts alcohol wipes or iso between each cut n u be cloning away in no time also if the bottoms get to warm on the heat mat flip a tray or something upside down n put it on that instead of directly on the heat pad sorry for Fkn massive post just trying to help
 
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I'm so irritated right now I can't get one fucking clone to grow. This is like the sixth month I've tried and I officially give up I just fucking suck apparently. Just took the ones I had left and threw them in the trash I'm done trying after hundreds of dollars wasted and absolutely zero experience gained. I mean zero experience. Normally when I waste money at least I learned something. This is exactly why I didn't buy seeds cause I would've just burnt through even more money. And by the way we're talking like I've filled up all 28 slots in my dome each time and not fucking one has made it. My confidence in this hobby is gone now, I don't even wanna grow the plants I have in my tents anymore. At not one point did I go, "Oh, that's what I screwed up!"- it's just been "Oh, it's probably this" or "Oh, it's probably that" but I keep getting the same result. It's literally becoming insanity, at what point do I realize that I've tried this six times and gotten the same result every time, minus more money and happiness.

I have followed SEVERAL tutorials and guides WORD FOR WORD and can't get one fucking clone to survive. Never get past two weeks. I'm using only legitimate products and brands too. Using Root Riot Plugs- every fucking clone molded and died, using Vivosun Rockwool- every clone bent over and died / molded. This really blows and isn't fun in the slightest. My dream hobby is becoming off putting and I'm now wasting valuable time in my life on something I apparently won't ever get good at. I use GH Trio, Clonex, and PH all of my water and test it every single time before I feed plants. Don't have a single problem with my actual plants that are growing just these fucking clones for some reason. My regular plants are the greenest I've ever had in any previous grow.

I've tried solo cups with plastic bags, I even bought a stupid expensive AC Infinity Dome with a heating pad, I've wasted time and time again and now I'm at the point where just thinking about clones makes me angry and want to stop growing all together. I have no problem growing mature clones that I buy for some reason but literally every cutting I take dies and I'm over it. Maybe this is for someone else but I genuinely I hate trying to make clones now. I've lost about $400 on worthless crap I've bought for these clones. I'm returning every piece of equipment on Amazon that I still can right now. In the past six months there have consistently been maybe like 100 clones not one has made it through. They either dry up, bend over and sag, or turn into a mold monster. Really frustrating.

Sorry for the rant guys! Dream hobby went straight into the trash. This will probably be my final grow with the plants that I do have. Too much money spent and zero results and no knowledge gained (cloning). I literally feel as though I learned not one damn thing in the past six months. I feel like a total idiot right now; I can rip apart a Rolls Royce and stretch it 72 inches and rewire the whole damn car but I can't get a fucking plant to grow with every possible tool on the market in six months. What are the odds?
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Plant health of the mother you cut off is most important for success.
After that you’re probably just over complicating the process. Sterilize, cut, dip, propagate, close dome. Don’t use a heat mat, instead keep the closet or tent they are in 78-80 degrees. Open dome daily until light flagging shows. Depending how dry your humidity is in the air around you should be domeless around day 7 and rooting by day 14.
 
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The best method for cloning I found was the spray cloners u can pick up for around 40-70,

Take my cuts at a an angle below a node
Scrape all the stem wall off

Give it a dip in clone x

Nd drop it into my cloner with plant-it clone feed at around 300ppm 5.8ph

Try keep you leaf temp aroun 72/73f
Give a misting every 4 hours or so when u can since they don’t have roots they drink all there water from the leafs

after about 4/7 days they will show signs of rooting

Should be fully rooted around day 14 ready for transplant

I use a humidity dome for maybe the first 5 days slowly opening the vent

The whole time I run my light (lumiteck 200w) about 1-1.5 meter away at 75-100%
At 18/6

Can be stressful hobby I feel like your killing them with love, they are plants tht have survived on there own for 1000s of years don’t worry about them too much less is more
 
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Yeah, cloning is certainly a challenge. I've sure had my share of failures, but I've had some successes, as well. I don't use a mother plant. I just clone something I'm growing, and I only do that when the urge strikes me. I acquired a propagator recently, so I plan to do more cloning in the future. Clones are fun to grow. I'd clone more, maybe, but we like to try different strains and buying seeds seems to be the best way to do so. Anyway, sorry you're having troubles, @AbbaZamma. I'm sure you'll find some good advice here.
 
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You don’t want clones to grow, you want them to root. So cut back in feeding them, cut back the light (I’ve have success under an incandescent bulb) and put some space between your plants and mat. (You don’t really need to heat the soil, so I’d only use the mat as a mini heater if the room is chilly.) Nor do you want to keep the leaves wet. Just keep your humidity high - spraying the dome instead of the plants.

Stick with it you’ll get it!
 
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I'm so irritated right now I can't get one fucking clone to grow. This is like the sixth month I've tried and I officially give up I just fucking suck apparently. Just took the ones I had left and threw them in the trash I'm done trying after hundreds of dollars wasted and absolutely zero experience gained. I mean zero experience. Normally when I waste money at least I learned something. This is exactly why I didn't buy seeds cause I would've just burnt through even more money. And by the way we're talking like I've filled up all 28 slots in my dome each time and not fucking one has made it. My confidence in this hobby is gone now, I don't even wanna grow the plants I have in my tents anymore. At not one point did I go, "Oh, that's what I screwed up!"- it's just been "Oh, it's probably this" or "Oh, it's probably that" but I keep getting the same result. It's literally becoming insanity, at what point do I realize that I've tried this six times and gotten the same result every time, minus more money and happiness.

I have followed SEVERAL tutorials and guides WORD FOR WORD and can't get one fucking clone to survive. Never get past two weeks. I'm using only legitimate products and brands too. Using Root Riot Plugs- every fucking clone molded and died, using Vivosun Rockwool- every clone bent over and died / molded. This really blows and isn't fun in the slightest. My dream hobby is becoming off putting and I'm now wasting valuable time in my life on something I apparently won't ever get good at. I use GH Trio, Clonex, and PH all of my water and test it every single time before I feed plants. Don't have a single problem with my actual plants that are growing just these fucking clones for some reason. My regular plants are the greenest I've ever had in any previous grow.

I've tried solo cups with plastic bags, I even bought a stupid expensive AC Infinity Dome with a heating pad, I've wasted time and time again and now I'm at the point where just thinking about clones makes me angry and want to stop growing all together. I have no problem growing mature clones that I buy for some reason but literally every cutting I take dies and I'm over it. Maybe this is for someone else but I genuinely I hate trying to make clones now. I've lost about $400 on worthless crap I've bought for these clones. I'm returning every piece of equipment on Amazon that I still can right now. In the past six months there have consistently been maybe like 100 clones not one has made it through. They either dry up, bend over and sag, or turn into a mold monster. Really frustrating.

Sorry for the rant guys! Dream hobby went straight into the trash. This will probably be my final grow with the plants that I do have. Too much money spent and zero results and no knowledge gained (cloning). I literally feel as though I learned not one damn thing in the past six months. I feel like a total idiot right now; I can rip apart a Rolls Royce and stretch it 72 inches and rewire the whole damn car but I can't get a fucking plant to grow with every possible tool on the market in six months. What are the odds?
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Oh man i feel your frustration it your post. I don't use anything special cubes wise. And they do take me longer than most to root but they do eventually. Can take me 3wks to see new growth at the top or decent roots. Once you get the hang of it you'll kick yourself into doing it with all your plants. I'd like to know more about where you take your cuts, how long they are. I use clonex gel and seedling soil mix no nutes. And i don't saturate the soil just keep it moist and spray the inside of my dome. No heat mat, just room temps 70f a small CFL light on them 24hrs a day.
 

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