I'm stuck and dont know what to do

Gaudy · May 23, 2025

Hello, first time grower here and I went ultra simplistic just to get my feet wet. I've got a nice little feminized plant growing, shes healthy except she has a lot of larfy buds on the lower branches with some really big ones at the tips. The top is blowing up and doing really well. I ordered some stuff to start supporting the lower branches that have the big buds on the ends b/c they are starting to twist bc they didnt grow thick and strong. I'm kind of lost about what to do here. Do I Hodor and let it ride or take action in some way?

Looking back there's a lot of things I would do differently, I'm not looking for the "should have's" I'm looking for what to do right now.

JIMKSI64 · May 23, 2025

For a first grow congrats. I killed my first plant.

Ok not enough light. From the top of the plant down to about 15 inches the light is strong enough to give you buds. What you are seeing is the flowering response setting up new flower that will not produce but WILL rob nutes and energy from your top buds. It is normal practice to top a plant and train it to level the canopy for yields. This has not been done.

Pretty much the only option is to try carefully to bend your main stem over and then lower your light towards the plant. Then any new growth more than 15 inches below the tops should be pulled to get the balance of the flowers to grow.
https://www.royalqueenseeds.com/us/blog-bigger-cannabis-yields-with-super-cropping-n815

Gaudy · May 23, 2025

JIMKSI64 said:
For a first grow congrats. I killed my first plant.

Ok not enough light. From the top of the plant down to about 15 inches the light is strong enough to give you buds. What you are seeing is the flowering response setting up new flower that will not produce but WILL rob nutes and energy from your top buds. It is normal practice to top a plant and train it to level the canopy for yields. This has not been done.

Pretty much the only option is to try carefully to bend your main stem over and then lower your light towards the plant. Then any new growth more than 15 inches below the tops should be pulled to get the balance of the flowers to grow.
https://www.royalqueenseeds.com/us/blog-bigger-cannabis-yields-with-super-cropping-n815

I'm confused, are you saying that the top buds growth is a response bc the lower buds are not getting enough light and these top buds wont fully develop or the lower buds are robbing the top buds and will prevent the top from producing buds?

Week4Bytch · May 23, 2025

Gaudy said:
I'm confused, are you saying that the top buds growth is a response bc the lower buds are not getting enough light and these top buds wont fully develop or the lower buds are robbing the top buds and will prevent the top from producing buds?

If you want thick ass buds .. lower that light a bit and chop the bottom buds. The energy will now all go to the top. If he didn't say it , I am.

Gaudy · May 23, 2025

Week4Bytch said:
If you want thick ass buds .. lower that light a bit and chop the bottom buds. The energy will now all go to the top. If he didn't say it , I am.

yes, ty, this is kinda of what I was going to follow up with, seems like i should just chop the lower branches and let the top grow. But on the other note of this, is the way i broke down Jims answer a correct thought process or was he explaining something else?

Gaudy · May 23, 2025

Gaudy said:
yes, ty, this is kinda of what I was going to follow up with, seems like i should just chop the lower branches and let the top grow. But on the other note of this, is the way i broke down Jims answer a correct thought process or was he explaining something else?

on another note, I think i can move the plant over and lower the light and rotate the light so its shining from the side to give the whole plant light again, would this work as well, or would the best and most beginner friendly just be to chop the lower branches. The light right now is currently about 18in from the top.

Grownsince95 · May 23, 2025

I can visualize and draw better than explain sometimes but I think this the best way to get light to the whole plant without taking anything off. There's so few fan leaves you won't have a problem getting light into the bottom of the plant. But you do need to bend the top over carefully to lower the light.

Also looks like you're using part of the light for other plants right?

And you can probably get the light down even lower than my silly arrow lol

Gaudy · May 23, 2025

Grownsince95 said:
I can visualize and draw better than explain sometimes but I think this the best way to get light to the whole plant without taking anything off. There's so few fan leaves you won't have a problem getting light into the bottom of the plant. But you do need to bend the top over carefully to lower the light.

Also looks like you're using part of the light for other plants right?

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And you can probably get the light down even lower than my silly arrow lol

Yes, I'm also growing strawberries, and pink blue berries which are on shelves to the right hand side. I've been support the top with a string attached to a shelf as its already bending, maybe i just untie it and let it bend naturally??? I'll post a new photo, in a min after i adjust.

Grownsince95 · May 23, 2025

The removal of the bottom stuff to help the top get all the goodies and grow big should happen before the flowers really set. It also runs the risk of stressing the plant into making it's own nutsacks. As far along as you are the effect will be minimal on the top and you're gonna loose perfectly acceptable flower. Even your lowest branches look like they have nice little nugs on the end already.

The name of the game now is to get as much light to as much of the plant you can.

Is it an auto or a photoperiod?

Gaudy · May 23, 2025

Grownsince95 said:
I can visualize and draw better than explain sometimes but I think this the best way to get light to the whole plant without taking anything off. There's so few fan leaves you won't have a problem getting light into the bottom of the plant. But you do need to bend the top over carefully to lower the light.

Also looks like you're using part of the light for other plants right?

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And you can probably get the light down even lower than my silly arrow lol

Grownsince95 · May 23, 2025

Absolutely, you get the idea!

Now you just have to get a pottery wheel and sit there and spin it around all day!

Like a plant rotisserie.

Ninjadogma · May 23, 2025

That's the thing about growing under lights, they tend to have a narrow vertical "grow zone" so even when the canopy isn't super thick like that you get larfy growth on the lower parts where there's just not enough energy. I concur with others, bend your high branch down and get the light down closer on everything to get them more energy. That's the "what can I do this time." What you can do next time is check the distance and depth of where your light is producing optimum levels, set your light distance so it gets what it needs, and keep your plant dimensions trimmed to only grow in that good light zone. Thats how to get less of those wispy disappointments.

Week4Bytch · May 23, 2025

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Get one of them huge lights that can fill a 4x4 area and you won't have any more problems. Light is the answer to your problem. The more the merrier. Cannabis likes a lot of it.

Gaudy · May 23, 2025

Week4Bytch said:
Get one of them huge lights that can fill a 4x4 area and you won't have any more problems. Light is the answer to your problem. The more the merrier. Cannabis likes a lot of it.

ya thats this new light, it covers a 4x4 area but its not what i was using up to about 2-3weeks ago. lesson learned you know.

JIMKSI64 · May 23, 2025

Ok much better than you had for sure. If you are going to run sideways use some fixtures to steer the stems facing the rear to the right and left. They will wind up closer to the light .
Fixture pic let's see

Green and white on stems moving them where I want

Week4Bytch · May 23, 2025

Gaudy said:
ya thats this new light, it covers a 4x4 area but its not what i was using up to about 2-3weeks ago. lesson learned you know.

In this forum.. that's just a light for seedlings. You need something like this

Full Spectrum G5000 480W WiFi & Bluetooth App-Controlled, Dimmable LED Grow Light for Indoor Plants

Designed for 4X4 grow tent. LED Grow Light – full-spectrum, high-efficiency lighting with SMART APP CONTROL.

www.spider-farmer.com

Gaudy · May 23, 2025

Grownsince95 said:
The removal of the bottom stuff to help the top get all the goodies and grow big should happen before the flowers really set. It also runs the risk of stressing the plant into making it's own nutsacks. As far along as you are the effect will be minimal on the top and you're gonna loose perfectly acceptable flower. Even your lowest branches look like they have nice little nugs on the end already.

The name of the game now is to get as much light to as much of the plant you can.

Is it an auto or a photoperiod?

its a photoperiod plant.

Gaudy · May 23, 2025

Week4Bytch said:
In this forum.. that's just a light for seedlings. You need something like this

Full Spectrum G5000 480W WiFi & Bluetooth App-Controlled, Dimmable LED Grow Light for Indoor Plants

Designed for 4X4 grow tent. LED Grow Light – full-spectrum, high-efficiency lighting with SMART APP CONTROL.

www.spider-farmer.com

I dont mean to argue but when I looked at the data sheets for both of these lights, b/c I was deciding which one to get, they where comparatively the same and both where recommended by many people. Also the space I'm in cant take a 4ftx4ft light. I could be mistaken though, and could have looked for a different size light as well i suppose.

Grownsince95 · May 23, 2025

Gaudy said:
its a photoperiod plant.

Excellent. I would avoid doing anything that stresses it from here on out like defoliation etc.

I can only speak for myself, but I would bet money there's quite a lot of us who wish their first grow even made it that far!

Good luck and keep us posted

JIMKSI64 · May 23, 2025

There are a few ways to get lots of light in a 4x4 footprint. I use multiple light for a few reasons. One light goes out ouch. In addition with tethers it is easier to handle multiple hight plants if needed.
700 watts 4x4. Looks like you have a big chunk now .

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