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*IndooR grow Tips* NL x Big Bud & Tropical

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High all weed growers!

This is my first grow and would love to get some feedback to let this grow to success!

Right now im growing:

Northern Lights x Big Bud
Tropical (Possible genes from Jack Herer)

3rd week on NL
5-6th week on Tropical and 1st week or flower.

I keep my Lights on 24/7 and thinking of switching to 18/6.

Gear: 250w HPS Lamp/Reflector/Ballast/Closet

So What do you guys think so far, are my planta healthy? Come up with some tips, peace & love

Notice! First THREE pots on picture is Northern Lights and The rest is Tropical Plant from Norden seeds

Best regards Dab
 

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24kNug said:
High all weed growers!

This is my first grow and would love to get some feedback to let this grow to success!

Right now im growing:

Northern Lights x Big Bud
Tropical (Possible genes from Jack Herer)

3rd week on NL
5-6th week on Tropical and 1st week or flower.

I keep my Lights on 24/7 and thinking of switching to 18/6.

Gear: 250w HPS Lamp/Reflector/Ballast/Closet

So What do you guys think so far, are my planta healthy? Come up with some tips, peace & love

Notice! First THREE pots on picture is Northern Lights and The rest is Tropical Plant from Norden seeds

Best regards Dab
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Lights on 24/7 are these autos I take it?
 
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but if they are photos wouldn’t 24/7 minimize the stretch? I’m under the impression that lights off=when they stretch?
 
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but if they are photos wouldn’t 24/7 minimize the stretch? I’m under the impression that lights off=when they stretch?
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They won't go into flower until the light period is reduced to have 13-14 hours of darkness. I think every grower I know would run at least 12 hr dark period to ensure they don't reveg if they are photoperiod provided they are mature.
 
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but if they are photos wouldn’t 24/7 minimize the stretch? I’m under the impression that lights off=when they stretch?
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A few ways you can manipulate stretch.

Light spectrum leaning blue like 4-5k. Which is why some run MH until after stretch then switch to HPS.

But probably the best way is running a negative diff. Meaning day time temps lower than night time temps. It cuts internode length quite a bit. But honestly the best way to deal with stretch is to plan and flip at the right time.
 
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A few ways you can manipulate stretch.

Light spectrum leaning blue like 4-5k. Which is why some run MH until after stretch then switch to HPS.

But probably the best way is running a negative diff. Meaning day time temps lower than night time temps. It cuts internode length quite a bit. But honestly the best way to deal with stretch is to plan and flip at the right time.
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Such great knowledge. I’m running 18/6 now. Looking to flip in the next couple weeks.
 
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Such great knowledge. I’m running 18/6 now. Looking to flip in the next couple weeks.
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Remember if your newer the stretch can be real depending on strain. Better to flip a bit early than to late... Ask me how I know. It's not fun to try to deal with and last grow I had I ended up ripping out for that reason because I couldn't flip as I had a family emergency and was away for a couple weeks.

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Lights on 24/7 are these autos I take it?
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Yes they are all autos
 
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They won't go into flower until the light period is reduced to have 13-14 hours of darkness. I think every grower I know would run at least 12 hr dark period to ensure they don't reveg if they are photoperiod provided they are mature.
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Thank you so much, i will go for 12h of darkness and 12 Light :)
 
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Thank you so much, i will go for 12h of darkness and 12 Light :)
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You can keep them as is. Only photoperiods need 12 hr darkness.
 
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Remember if your newer the stretch can be real depending on strain. Better to flip a bit early than to late... Ask me how I know. It's not fun to try to deal with and last grow I had I ended up ripping out for that reason because I couldn't flip as I had a family emergency and was away for a couple weeks.

If ya wanna good laugh check out my grow diary.
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Yeah honestly, I was going to flip sooner but I came across a pretty bad russet mite infestation. Had no clue until dirtbag brought it to my attention. With the guidance from the seasoned growers, it was def mites and wouldn’t have known without them and My 40x scope. Headed in to tent now, keep an eye out for my journal.
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Thank you so much, i will go for 12h of darkness and 12 Light :)
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For autos, I’d run 18/6 or 20/4, give the babies some resting time. Lol
 
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For autos, I’d run 18/6 or 20/4, give the babies some resting time. Lol
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Agree.
 
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Let's see the end results, thank you so much for the good recs!
 
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A few ways you can manipulate stretch.

Light spectrum leaning blue like 4-5k. Which is why some run MH until after stretch then switch to HPS.

But probably the best way is running a negative diff. Meaning day time temps lower than night time temps. It cuts internode length quite a bit. But honestly the best way to deal with stretch is to plan and flip at the right time.
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I've dropped down to 20/4 to give them some dark. I used to run 24hr and they weren't as healthy as they are now. I control height by topping. Some plants grow slow enough to allow multiple toppings, while others grow so quick and stretch out so fast it's hard to keep a good girl down sometimes.
I don't grow auto's
 
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I've dropped down to 20/4 to give them some dark. I used to run 24hr and they weren't as healthy as they are now. I control height by topping. Some plants grow slow enough to allow multiple toppings, while others grow so quick and stretch out so fast it's hard to keep a good girl down sometimes.
I don't grow auto's
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I have a theory behind why plants do better with a dark period. It's involves a few things.

1. Under high light intensity you can put a plant into photorespiration once you get closer to the photosaturation. This lowers the photosynthetic ability of the plant and changes the processes in turn slow slowing growth. Under lower light not an issue.

2. We fail to realize that microbiology in the soil plays a big part in the break down and uptake of nutrients. Also a huge part in overall plants health and resistance to infection. During the Calvin cycle plants move starches and other goodies down to the roots and in turn feed the microbiology in the soil ensuring healthy thriving colonies beneficial to the plant. Several fungi and bacteria species play a large part in aiding the plant. You know all those enzymes people add those are produced by bacteria naturally and much more diverse than a bottle.

I'll just stop there.

This is why I feel in soil and 18/6 is a good choice. As to the most I deal say like 20/4 or 18/6 I can't say but I do feel a dark period provides benefits and it's not related to plants need sleep/rest per se as some claim.
 
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I have a theory behind why plants do better with a dark period. It's involves a few things.

1. Under high light intensity you can put a plant into photorespiration once you get closer to the photosaturation. This lowers the photosynthetic ability of the plant and changes the processes in turn slow slowing growth. Under lower light not an issue.

2. We fail to realize that microbiology in the soil plays a big part in the break down and uptake of nutrients. Also a huge part in overall plants health and resistance to infection. During the Calvin cycle plants move starches and other goodies down to the roots and in turn feed the microbiology in the soil ensuring healthy thriving colonies beneficial to the plant. Several fungi and bacteria species play a large part in aiding the plant. You know all those enzymes people add those are produced by bacteria naturally and much more diverse than a bottle.

I'll just stop there.

This is why I feel in soil and 18/6 is a good choice. As to the most I deal say like 20/4 or 18/6 I can't say but I do feel a dark period provides benefits and it's not related to plants need sleep/rest per se as some claim.
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I just know my plants seem to like it better, definitely in my seed box 24 hrs light has fried a few of mine real good. I now have the light hanging sideways and on 18/6.... reflective light and a good dark period works much better.
 
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I forgot to mention that im using biobizz organic nutrients, such as grow/bloom & top max! And my pH might be a bit high, 7 or something! Im aware of that atm, i will do a clean flush last weeks of flowering with nutrient big bud from advanced nutrients and calmag if something gets above the science.

Seems like u know you thing, Will keep your "recommendations" in mind! Darkness seems to be my priority for now, my early state growing plants seems to be good so far, they might have better genetics.

Thank you everyone!
 
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Aqua Man said:
I have a theory behind why plants do better with a dark period. It's involves a few things.

1. Under high light intensity you can put a plant into photorespiration once you get closer to the photosaturation. This lowers the photosynthetic ability of the plant and changes the processes in turn slow slowing growth. Under lower light not an issue.

2. We fail to realize that microbiology in the soil plays a big part in the break down and uptake of nutrients. Also a huge part in overall plants health and resistance to infection. During the Calvin cycle plants move starches and other goodies down to the roots and in turn feed the microbiology in the soil ensuring healthy thriving colonies beneficial to the plant. Several fungi and bacteria species play a large part in aiding the plant. You know all those enzymes people add those are produced by bacteria naturally and much more diverse than a bottle.

I'll just stop there.

This is why I feel in soil and 18/6 is a good choice. As to the most I deal say like 20/4 or 18/6 I can't say but I do feel a dark period provides benefits and it's not related to plants need sleep/rest per se as some claim.
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Im listening, because of my slow grow this is a huge oppurtunity to have a faster and successfull grow! My Gear atm is not that great for automatic purposes, the humidity and so on matters alot and I try to keep all settings as correct as I can, thanks for the tips
 
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Im listening, because of my slow grow this is a huge oppurtunity to have a faster and successfull grow! My Gear atm is not that great for automatic purposes, the humidity and so on matters alot and I try to keep all settings as correct as I can, thanks for the tips
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I also suspect that ive had Lights too close to the plant which make some sort of stress, correct me if im wrong! How are you guys doing with distance between lamps meanwhile under veg and bloom?
 
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