Dirtbag
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I give plain water for the last 7-10 days. So does every grower I know, and that's personally dozens of growers in my neighborhood. I have had pot that burns black ash and goes out a lot, mostly from Hydro grows that haven't flushed properly, but I've also had promix grown pot that is harsh and burns black too. Maybe from over feeding, not sure.
But my reasoning for plain water the last week or so is simple; promix has a cation exchange capacity. It's not inert and holds on to nutrients to a degree, which it can release to the plants if needed. It's why I can get away with multiple water only feedings mid cycle before seeing deficiencies. By giving just water at the end the plants can use up what little they need from the stored cation bank, or from the leaves. Essentially they just dont need a lot of input the last week or two.. maybe a little potassium sulphate, but that's it.
Now I'll freely admit I have no science to back this up, just anecdotal evidence.
Hydro and coco are a different story. You should feed those what they need to within days of the chop. But any media with a CEC should have plenty of stored nutrients to make the last week or two without feeding added nutes.
Totally. finding the sweet spot wrt to feeding and fading is what sets good growers apart from amateurs imho.Depends on how heavy you fertilize. Heavily faded plants do not give the best quality or yield in my opinion.
But overfed plants are not good either.
Think about molasses, has a lot K and Ca iirc. No wonder you can give a shit load of it till the end without problems, perhaps even benefits.
I'm half convinced the the biggest help that molasses provides is that it gives guys something to do to their plants that isn't fatal. ;-)
They turn into sugar junkies and lose all drive and ambition.... Next thing you know, they’re stealing from you.... They all either end up dead, or in the pen. The life of a molasses user is typically short and brutal- they make pretty corpses. So sadOverdose a plant on molasses and see what happens.
But I do love me a molasses-whore. MMMMMThey turn into sugar junkies and lose all drive and ambition.... Next thing you know, they’re stealing from you.... They all either end up dead, or in the pen. The life of a molasses user is typically short and brutal- they make pretty corpses. So sad
Me too. I think it’s the lack of teeth.But I do love me a molasses-whore. MMMMM
I think you have read different papers from myself:)
Faces of Molasses. It's a scary thing. Poor ladies.They turn into sugar junkies and lose all drive and ambition.... Next thing you know, they’re stealing from you.... They all either end up dead, or in the pen. The life of a molasses user is typically short and brutal- they make pretty corpses. So sad
I just tried my one month old harvest which I never flushed and fed right to the end. I didn't cough even a single time and there was different strains in that grow. Your friend maybe overfed with one or more nutrients and/or didn't dry properly the end product.I've got a little story for ya. My friend who grows in coco and rockwool had a bad last harvest. His weed tasted pretty decent and there were some aspects of it that I really liked initally. But after exhale I would feel too much irritation in my lungs. After a few hits my lungs would hurt so bad I wouldn't be able to smoke any more and I would be coughing without even smoking anymore. I have noticed this phenomenon before on a few occasions since I have been smoking weed now for 34 years. I don't know what causes it and hopefully someone here knows and will chime in. My theory is that there is somehow too much sulfur bound up in the flowers. This comes from when I was young and dumber and a friend showed me how to take match hits. You light a match and imediately inhale while it is lighting up and you will blow out a cloud of smoke. After a couple of those you have a hard time breathing like when you smoke this weed my friend grew. Anyway I asked him what he thought happened and he said he didn't flush good enough. I told him I'm pretty sure that is not what happened and if he doesn't change something about how he grows he is going to end up with the same problem no matter how much he flushes. He was adamant that he was correct. He uses the GH trio and likes to change the ratios around really radically. I think that is where he went wrong as well as the fact that he went the whole grow with no runoff. My last run I decided to chop at day 44 so I could get to the next run that I'm really excited about and the 44 day run had a couple of clones that I have already discontinued because I don't care for the taste, so I chopped with no flush at all, but I had already ramped the nutrients down to around 500 from my high of 900. (I use ro water) Like I said it was a spur of the moment decision so no flush at all. My friend was sure that I would have the same harsh smoke that he did. His mind was blown when he smoked my 44 day no flush weed and it tasted good! Obviously it wasn't the best smoke I've grown and I won't be doing it that way again any time soon, but I have definately smoked a lot of way worse weed! I think the light bulb lit in my friend's head too as now he has decided to change his techniques and try organic top dress coco style. (I still use hydro salts, but have recently switched to powdered nutes to save $)
They would tell you that somehow let's say organic phosphorous is somehow different than the phosphorous in a chemical fertilizer and that's why the organic doesn't need flushing.If flushing would be the main factor organic and outdoor pot would always taste quite bad cause it always gets fed right up to the chop.
Not necessarily true. As the temps in the soil cool outside microbial action slows down and converts less of the organic matter to nutrition for the plants.If flushing would be the main factor organic and outdoor pot would always taste quite bad cause it always gets fed right up to the chop.
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