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Is Cxb3590 A Top Contender To Replace 1200w Hps?

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I have done a lot of Googling and I asked for help on another forum but I am not positive I have reviewed all the options. I want to build my own LED system and from what I have gathered I like the CXb3590 driven at 350ma. Is there another option I should review?

My biggest worry is I am looking at out dated approaches.
 
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It's hard to find a driver that will rum multiple CXB's but 700ma with a 36v COB would be excellent. I'm about to make some passively cooled units with reflectors soon and I'll make a thread and explain exactly what I did to make it.
 
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That would be awesome thanks. I am set on doing a DIY CXB and I would love to see your build.
 
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That would be awesome thanks. I am set on doing a DIY CXB and I would love to see your build.
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That is absolutely beautiful I am so excited to build an LED
 
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It's hard to find a driver that will rum multiple CXB's but 700ma with a 36v COB would be excellent. I'm about to make some passively cooled units with reflectors soon and I'll make a thread and explain exactly what I did to make it.
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Cool rs,cant wait...
 
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MeJuana, there are 36 volt and 72 volt versions of Cree CXA3590 and CXB3590.
 
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Analysis has shown running Cree Cobs CXA/B3590 at or around 750 mA is optimal in lumens and efficiency. Designing a system around using either 36v or 72v Cob's is foremost. @REALSTYLES using 72v cxb3590's. I use 36v cxb3590's. neither way is better than the other, just choice. All other choices are based on that first choice. 72v cxb's have a HLG-185h-C700A/B to drive the cobs at 50w and max lumen's, while 36v cxb3590 has a hlg-185h-C1400A/B. 8-cxb's can make 400w or 4-cxb's can make 400w. The cost is th4 same either way, 36v or 72v. Plants do not care about watts, they care about lumen's, photosynthesis. More lumen's faster and better growth. Higher lumens not necessarily the same outcome. peace.
 
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I don't think leds can replace hps, yet. Not until they are doing this, consistently.


This is under 315w cmh, which outperforms 1000w lamps almost every time. (The crop pictured here used less than 10,000 watts) I keep getting told LEDs do better, but so far I haven't been shown proof outside of people who have one LED slammed down on 3 plants in a 2x2 tent. I want to see a commercial LED garden that is pulling average 1.5 grams per watt of cup winning herb. Is that still too far in the future? Or is seriously no one making decent LEDs for market?
 
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We Solidarity said:
I don't think leds can replace hps, yet. Not until they are doing this, consistently.
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This is under 315w cmh, which outperforms 1000w lamps almost every time. (The crop pictured here used less than 10,000 watts) I keep getting told LEDs do better, but so far I haven't been shown proof outside of people who have one LED slammed down on 3 plants in a 2x2 tent. I want to see a commercial LED garden that is pulling average 1.5 grams per watt of cup winning herb. Is that still too far in the future? Or is seriously no one making decent LEDs for market?
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check out @REALSTYLES grows peace
 
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We Solidarity said:
I don't think leds can replace hps, yet. Not until they are doing this, consistently.
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This is under 315w cmh, which outperforms 1000w lamps almost every time. (The crop pictured here used less than 10,000 watts) I keep getting told LEDs do better, but so far I haven't been shown proof outside of people who have one LED slammed down on 3 plants in a 2x2 tent. I want to see a commercial LED garden that is pulling average 1.5 grams per watt of cup winning herb. Is that still too far in the future? Or is seriously no one making decent LEDs for market?
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I love led,but you cant argue with those 315 cmh lights.ive been on the fence for ages.finally decided to get some of those ballast and mogul adapted kits.I think its not long now until led will be there at commercial level.maybee led,cmh hybrid first
 
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check out @REALSTYLES grows peace
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ya I have, like I said it would be awesome to see them in a commercial setting not in a grow tent or bedroom.
 
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I love led,but you cant argue with those 315 cmh lights.ive been on the fence for ages.finally decided to get some of those ballast and mogul adapted kits.I think its not long now until led will be there at commercial level.maybee led,cmh hybrid first
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We will see for sure...it's looking like by the time LEDs are ready to make a stand, that plasma lighting technology will be breaking into the industry with force. I'm not sure there's much that can compete with plasma, it's a relatively new technology that's yet to really start being developed except by a handful of companies, but even still it is beating out pretty much every other form of light.
 
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We will see for sure...it's looking like by the time LEDs are ready to make a stand, that plasma lighting technology will be breaking into the industry with force. I'm not sure there's much that can compete with plasma, it's a relatively new technology that's yet to really start being developed except by a handful of companies, but even still it is beating out pretty much every other form of light.
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don't agree with the plasma bit.try growing good bud with a plasma,even a gavita model.cool as supplement light to make a wicked full spectrum.but stand alone.still shite.sorry pal.just my opinion.first time I went in grow shop and he dipped the light and hit the plasma.I was ready for a re mortage.then you see peeps,trying to grow plants with one.long stretching nothingness....
 
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don't agree with the plasma bit.try growing good bud with a plasma,even a gavita model.cool as supplement light to make a wicked full spectrum.but stand alone.still shite.sorry pal.just my opinion.first time I went in grow shop and he dipped the light and hit the plasma.I was ready for a re mortage.then you see peeps,trying to grow plants with one.long stretching nothingness....
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Like I said, it's new technology. Can't wait to see what happens to it when it catches on - if there is as much of a competitive cutthroat market in plasma as there is in LED we might actually see a solid-state light that can put out harder than HID lighting in a scaleable system.

let's not forget LED has been in commercial development for almost 30 years now, with dozens of manufacturers and development companies. Plasma (as a high-intensity light source) has been around for 6 years and has only three or four companies trying to bring it to the grow market.
 
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I don't think leds can replace hps, yet. Not until they are doing this, consistently.
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This is under 315w cmh, which outperforms 1000w lamps almost every time. (The crop pictured here used less than 10,000 watts) I keep getting told LEDs do better, but so far I haven't been shown proof outside of people who have one LED slammed down on 3 plants in a 2x2 tent. I want to see a commercial LED garden that is pulling average 1.5 grams per watt of cup winning herb. Is that still too far in the future? Or is seriously no one making decent LEDs for market?
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Here you go
 
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Here you go
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hell yeah, that's whats up. If you have numbers I'd love to look at them - namely price per unit, yields over an 18 month period, and power draw. Send me a message let's chat a little!
 
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hell yeah, that's whats up. If you have numbers I'd love to look at them - namely price per unit, yields over an 18 month period, and power draw. Send me a message let's chat a little!
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So that was early in the grow....check out the final harvest of that grow.... I may not be able to do anything but 4 cobs in a cab but I'm totally sold on LEDs now!!! The RealStyles tutorial listed above is THE BOMB.

 
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So that was early in the grow....check out the final harvest of that grow.... I may not be able to do anything but 4 cobs in a cab but I'm totally sold on LEDs now!!! The RealStyles tutorial listed above is THE BOMB.

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$3,000 a light though, wow. You could buy 8 315s for that much, paying full retail. Wholesale you could just about fill that room with 315s for the price of two LEDs.
 
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ya I have, like I said it would be awesome to see them in a commercial setting not in a grow tent or bedroom.
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LED's in a commercial setting...


They pulled 1.2-1.6g/w from each 3x6 table with two cx300's over each table. 25 tables in that room.
 
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