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Just wondering if this is the start to PM and should jump on it. I have a fan, and in-line fan extracting. rH usually at 60 but will swing to lights off but dehumidier will kick on. It’s right off the middle vein. I tried to wipe it off to see and it won’t but I did hit the plant with spinosad the day before because mites. Not sure if it’s residue. I’ll look under my microscope when home later but would like thoughts
 

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Just wondering if this is the start to PM and should jump on it. I have a fan, and in-line fan extracting. rH usually at 60 but will swing to lights off but dehumidier will kick on. It’s right off the middle vein. I tried to wipe it off to see and it won’t but I did hit the plant with spinosad the day before because mites. Not sure if it’s residue. I’ll look under my microscope when home later but would like thoughts
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hard to see, could be, but i see some white little dots too.. maybe an insect, Thrips maybe?

EDIT - dehumi only on when lights go off its kind bad, its exactly when RH spike occur ~15-30min after lights off, and the dehumi will take more than that to stabilize anything. i would run it 24/7 even if during the day it may be doing almost nothing depending on environment conditions, it will be stabilizing 24/7 whenever it needs to.
 
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hard to see, could be, but i see some white little dots too.. maybe an insect, Thrips maybe?
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I did spray some spinisad for them. Will add some stuff to my soil also, mosquito bits.
 
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I did spray some spinisad for them. Will add some stuff to my soil also, mosquito bits.
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post better photos when you can.. and check my edit last post ..cheers
 
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I think if it is p.m., you can kind of rub it off with your fingers. Not positive. Never had it.
 
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post better photos when you can.. and check my edit last post ..cheers
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hard to see, could be, but i see some white little dots too.. maybe an insect, Thrips maybe?

EDIT - dehumi only on when lights go off its kind bad, its exactly when RH spike occur ~15-30min after lights off, and the dehumi will take more than that to stabilize anything. i would run it 24/7 even if during the day it may be doing almost nothing depending on environment conditions, it will be stabilizing 24/7 whenever it needs to.
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So I do run it 24/7. I have it hooked up to a sensor. It controls my light, humidifier, dehumidifier, in-line fan and will kick on if over 60%. Vpd is on point, airflow is good, rh at all times is good. I’m wondering if it’s my AC.
 
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I think if it is p.m., you can kind of rub it off with your fingers. Not positive. Never had it.
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I tried to rub it off and it didn’t. Sorry for dbl post I tried to edit my last post and quote chucky but it was all funky
 
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So I do run it 24/7. I have it hooked up to a sensor. It controls my light, humidifier, dehumidifier, in-line fan and will kick on if over 60%. Vpd is on point, airflow is good, rh at all times is good. I’m wondering if it’s my AC.
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What are your conditions outside day and night?
 
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I'm fighting humidity a bit here, but daily rains are keeping the house a tad more humid overall lately.
 
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What are your conditions outside day and night?
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It’s hot and humid but I have an ac running 24/7 as well as my dehumidifier. I keep the tent closed unless I’m tending to the plants and view it through my window if checking on her

Temps always 75-76, rh 60 from breeder recommendations

I have doctorzymes so I could spray it with that but I just sprayed her with spinosad but here’s another shot until I’m home…
 

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post pictures of the whole plant.,
 
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post pictures of the whole plant.,
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Some funky leaves I know, had some heat issues and put the light too close for a day. But that was all fixed once my fan came in and all my other stuff it was running late.

Out of all my grows it’s my first time I had this happen on one of my girls.
 

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Some funky leaves I know, had some heat issues and put the light too close for a day. But that was all fixed once my fan came in and all my other stuff it was running late.

Out of all my grows it’s my first time I had this happen on one of my girls.
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ok..
any gnats?
 
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Those white dots are spider mites, and you're gonna need a lot more than spinosad. You need a rotation, add green cleaner, pure crop, and maybe nuke em or something. You want 3-4 sprays all with different ingredients. Hit the underside of the leaves every 3 days with a different spray and you'll be good.

If they're still around, you gonna prob have to bite the bullet and order some avid. If it's in veg, you'll be fine. Don't use that stuff in flower though

If you have a jewelers loupe, twist that leaf around and I guarantee you'll see little eggs and mites on the underside of the leaf.
 
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Those white dots are spider mites, and you're gonna need a lot more than spinosad. You need a rotation, add green cleaner, pure crop, and maybe nuke em or something. You want 3-4 sprays all with different ingredients. Hit the underside of the leaves every 3 days with a different spray and you'll be good.

If they're still around, you gonna prob have to bite the bullet and order some avid. If it's in veg, you'll be fine. Don't use that stuff in flower though

If you have a jewelers loupe, twist that leaf around and I guarantee you'll see little eggs and mites on the underside of the leaf.
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Can I hit it with doctorzymes too and pick one of those
 
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Yes but don't get the nuke em if you pick the Dr zymes
 
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i don't see anything to worry about with this plant ... there's a few leaves mutation and discoloration you see quite often but again nothing to worry about imho.
 
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i don't see anything to worry about with this plant ... there's a few leaves mutation and discoloration you see quite often but again nothing to worry about imho.
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I think you are right my friend I spent a good 30min with my microscope looking at stuff and I didn’t see anything. The spot I posted about is shiny and doesn’t seem like PM. Although there is more of it on the leaf now.. I’m going to take another look to see if I can stay stable enough to check it out again lol
 
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I think you are right my friend I spent a good 30min with my microscope looking at stuff and I didn’t see anything. The spot I posted about is shiny and doesn’t seem like PM. Although there is more of it on the leaf now.. I’m going to take another look to see if I can stay stable enough to check it out again lol
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It's cause it's not PM, I hope I'm wrong about the mites though. Good luck. If you see those dots spreading more, do what I recommended, but just remember it's easier to deal with them now than it's gonna be after they've spread to each leaf. You'll know in about a week.
 
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It's cause it's not PM, I hope I'm wrong about the mites though. Good luck. If you see those dots spreading more, do what I recommended, but just remember it's easier to deal with them now than it's gonna be after they've spread to each leaf. You'll know in about a week.
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My first time dealing with them or PM if any of them, but I’m always in the tent checking for stuff. Thank you for the positive vibes. All my stuff is super clean as well as myself being showered and clean clothes along with sterilized tools.
 
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