Is this too much training?

ChairmanFester · Nov 2, 2025

GasPlease said:
Btw Im quoting the AI...

hormonal flexibility, in fact that's all I'm going to say, you'll look into it or you won't

amneziaHaze said:
all i know you can trow any question at it and it will answer it fully confident it will never tell you i dont know.it will make up references when writing text that are non existant it will make formulas that have nothing to do with the real world.and yes if you know what your doing and tell it exactly what to do you could have done it as well.most of us ask it stuff we need answers for and it expects you to not know the answer soo any answer is the correct answer. but the thing doesnt even know how to do math it calculates with what number was most used when similar numbers where at those places.if your lucky it registered it often enough i think it still thinks 0.11 is bigger than 0.2

you can see its a tiny plant and 4 nodes high for 20 days is more than realistic

Think about what I've said about HOW to use AI. I've accounted for all of that. I've never blindly trusted it except experimenting with hot sauce flavors, which is as good as any astrologer or homeless schizo could do too.
AI is so much better if you type your thought as verbal salad then ask it to edit. Don't ask it for the PPFD formula, you'll become transgender or something. In the illustration between "impossible according to other person" and "how COULD it be possible anyway", nothing is taken as fact it's simply restated.
Also I find that things I knew it couldn't do last week, it can without any notice to users. So check again.
Generally the criticism so far is "Cliff's Notes isn't original or specific!", well I mean... duh?

ChairmanFester · Nov 2, 2025

I am also less skeptical than KSG, but no more convinced either.

amneziaHaze · Nov 2, 2025

ChairmanFester said:
I am also less skeptical than KSG, but no more convinced either.

Okej soo you never say a plant cant make 4-5 nodes in 20 days? And you never saw a auto plant preflower in 20 days? You think this is a 40 day old plant?

GasPlease · Nov 2, 2025

ChairmanFester said:
I am also less skeptical than KSG, but no more convinced either.

I was looking at some of your posts made this year. They seem to suggest youre a fairly new grower. Is that correct?

ChairmanFester · Nov 2, 2025

Only to the modern age. From 97-01 I ran by rough math 78-80 plants in 5 generations in a non climate controlled improvised bunker and maybe 5 indoor. Generally ranging about 2-4oz per plant.

Unless you're building up some authority fallacy. Don't bother.

ChairmanFester · Nov 2, 2025

Strange impulse too. "Who is this person!", wouldn't you bother with that after the actual information is sorted?
What a chuckle it would be if a trained botanist recently decided to grow legal weed and was thought of in terms of what has been done this week.

GasPlease · Nov 2, 2025

ChairmanFester said:
Only to the modern age. From 97-01 I ran by rough math 78-80 plants in 5 generations in a non climate controlled improvised bunker and maybe 5 indoor. Generally ranging about 2-4oz per plant.

Unless you're building up some authority fallacy. Don't bother.

I was only checking to see if you have the experience and knowledge to tell me whats possible. And call me a liar.

GasPlease · Nov 2, 2025

i take being called a liar kinda personal

GasPlease · Nov 2, 2025

Right around 23 hrs from the last adjustment. Moved a few pins and took 4-6 leaves off each plant. As well as tucking the other leaves. The GMO has 18 tie downs.

ChairmanFester · Nov 2, 2025

GasPlease said:
i take being called a liar kinda personal

I'm not sure what your habits are or anything else. Whatever the case that's like a 35 day to 37 day plant. Good day.

amneziaHaze · Nov 2, 2025

For a guy that did 80 plants

ChairmanFester said:
I'm not sure what your habits are or anything else. Whatever the case that's like a 35 day to 37 day plant. Good day.

38 days old and topped... this one took over half a 3x3 his didnt even take the corner
In the same diary grow after this one had one plant i transplanted 3 times with million of problems looks big as his

KG1 · Nov 2, 2025

GasPlease said:
I was only checking to see if you have the experience and knowledge to tell me whats possible. And call me a liar.

We do but let's move on and get back to your grow.

Most have grown through an industry and swathe of grower lies over the last decade

GasPlease · Nov 2, 2025

KG1 said:
We do but let's move on and get back to your grow.

Most have grown through an industry and swathe of grower lies over the last decade

Did you feel left out?

Over a decade of growing doesnt equal an expert. If someone uses the same shit methods and gets the same shit results than they have been a beginner for 10 years.

Can you link me some of your grows so I can see what over a decade of growing should look like? Maybe even grows where you tried new things and applied some of that knowledge to get better yields?

KG1 · Nov 2, 2025

GasPlease said:
Did you feel left out?

Over a decade of growing doesnt equal an expert. If someone uses the same shit methods and gets the same shit results than they have been a beginner for 10 years.

Can you link me some of your grows so I can see what over a decade of growing should look like? Maybe even grows where you tried new things and applied some of that knowledge to get better yields?

Yer soon as you prove your claim and stop countering. My end is easy to prove just Google any diary that documents the first 17 days from germination from any good grower...

In fact what I've said is quite easy to prove, this is a weed growing site...

GasPlease · Nov 2, 2025

KG1 said:
Yer soon as you prove your claim and stop countering. My end is easy to prove just Google any diary that documents the first 17 days from germination from any good grower...

In fact what I've said is quite easy to prove, this is a weed growing site...

I stated more than once that my plants are on day 25 and day 26 today. I think Ive provided all the info needed to prove my claim. I can find tons of crazy grows and diaries showing amazing growth. Youll just call them liars and claim its bullshit. Take the video for example. I linked a 10 minute video trying to be helpful and you replied back in 5 minutes saying it was shit.

GasPlease · Nov 2, 2025

Im working quick here so Im only referencing the pics. This plant looks good at day 26 and it appears there iis no training. with LST it could be crazy.
https://ilgmforum.com/t/how-does-this-sour-diesel-autoflower-look-at-26-days/43458

GasPlease · Nov 2, 2025

here are some nice looking plants on these forums.
https://www.thcfarmer.com/threads/my-autoflowers-began-to-pre-flower.159397/

GasPlease · Nov 2, 2025

I can find more but dont think its needed. Ill remind the haters that all the variables in a grow matter. So comparing one grow/grower to another is a bad practice unless all the variables are the same or very close.

GasPlease · Nov 2, 2025

day 26
https://www.thcfarmer.com/threads/lets-see-everyones-autoflowers-🔥🔥.112466/post-2431592

GasPlease · Nov 2, 2025

looking good

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