AWickedWizard
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Yes the heat from the 600 was a bit much I’d raise the light up , a water flush and get your pots up off the tent floor creat a air gap under them that will help .Hey guys, so I've been quite reluctant to posting here asking for help as I really wanted to figure this out through reading the various articles but I feel like I can't read fast enough or seem to lack enough experience to correctly judge the situation and whenever I try to fix one problem I think I'm creating another one, this is my first grow but I've been reading and dreaming about this for over 10 years waiting for a chance to finally be able to start growing.
So after a lot of hair pulling, trial and error I come in search of some wisdom.
Quick sidenote: I am planning to start a grow journal and be as active as possible, not here just to leech information. Just starting to get really stressed and tired, where a passion is turning into constant scare and headache. The current situation and not being able to easily purchase nutrients / equipment is also making it really hard.
Soo... I planted on the 16th of march into rootit cubes got 100% germination rate, went through some overwatering and had a few issues (I'll make a more in depth post as a grow journal as I took a lot of photos and made various timelapses).
Using Lumatek dual spectrum 600w HPS through a 600w Lumatek ballast (Set at 400w) running 18/6 (This has probably been my biggest mistake)
150x90 grow tent with a 550cfm fan connected to EcoTechnics controller (25oC, 5o hysterisis / 65%RH, 5RH hysterisis / 25% minimum FanSpeed, 55% Max FanSpeed )
Nutes I use are Bionova dedicated (Soil supermix, BN-zym, BN-missing link) going roughly 1 50% feed, 1 RO-Water, 1 RO-Water cycle whenever the top soil is dry.
Now this is where I get issues, I just can't seem to keep the temperatures down and humidity up, my VPD is all over the place. Temps with fans going pretty high (Near the 55% Fanspeed, anything over just seems to pummel the plants) stay around 29oC+ with RH staying around 40 to 55 at best. I have to keep the windows open with the blinds closed and that's what I've been playing around with most, if I open the blinds more temperatures stabilise but RH will go down to around 30 (even with it being around 50 outside) and if I close them more humidity stabilises but temperature goes way up to around 31, 32.
So 2 days ago I tried flipping to 600w and let it run for an 18h cycle (this I think caused stress and excess heat), then yesterday I accidentally left the humidifier running during the 6h off cycle causing humidity to reach 80 to 90+ (Compounded the previous problem) and when I went back into the room to check on them plants looked terrible with all sorts of issues.
Now I'm not sure what to do, should I feed, do I have nutrient lockout, toxicity, lack of some nutrients etc
Also I would really appreciate some advice on tent setup maybe I'm getting something wrong here.
Thanks for the help, I'll take some pics with white lighting as soon as the light's cycle is finished.
Maybe 10 to 15 cm will be fine glad to help out . Good luck have fun .Mmh brilliant, I hadn't thought about raising them, I'll see what I can build for that, light is currently 60cm away so I'll pull it up to 80cm away. as for height off the ground any recommendations? I'll try building a plank with holes drilled inside at around 30cm high, should surely help! They have been watered with RO water now I could go for a full on flush in a couple hours, they look better already.
Exactly why I wanted him to clarify that paragraph! So he is blowing that fan right at the plants then.. Stop! The Breeze from the fan goes between the top of the plants & the light, not directly on the plantHey wicked , that fan aimed directly at your hps is a bad idea , will end up killing your plants .....
First thing, right away, is overwatering. See how your fan leaves are cupped downwards??? That's due to overwatering.
Dont worry , we'll get you straightened out ......Hey guys, so I've been quite reluctant to posting here asking for help as I really wanted to figure this out through reading the various articles but I feel like I can't read fast enough or seem to lack enough experience to correctly judge the situation and whenever I try to fix one problem I think I'm creating another one, this is my first grow but I've been reading and dreaming about this for over 10 years waiting for a chance to finally be able to start growing.
So after a lot of hair pulling, trial and error I come in search of some wisdom.
Quick sidenote: I am planning to start a grow journal and be as active as possible, not here just to leech information. Just starting to get really stressed and tired, where a passion is turning into constant scare and headache. The current situation and not being able to easily purchase nutrients / equipment is also making it really hard.
Soo... I planted on the 16th of march into rootit cubes got 100% germination rate, went through some overwatering and had a few issues (I'll make a more in depth post as a grow journal as I took a lot of photos and made various timelapses).
Using Lumatek dual spectrum 600w HPS through a 600w Lumatek ballast (Set at 400w) running 18/6 (This has probably been my biggest mistake)
150x90 grow tent with a 550cfm fan connected to EcoTechnics controller (25oC, 5o hysterisis / 65%RH, 5RH hysterisis / 25% minimum FanSpeed, 55% Max FanSpeed )
Nutes I use are Bionova dedicated (Soil supermix, BN-zym, BN-missing link) going roughly 1 50% feed, 1 RO-Water, 1 RO-Water cycle whenever the top soil is dry.
Now this is where I get issues, I just can't seem to keep the temperatures down and humidity up, my VPD is all over the place. Temps with fans going pretty high (Near the 55% Fanspeed, anything over just seems to pummel the plants) stay around 29oC+ with RH staying around 40 to 55 at best. I have to keep the windows open with the blinds closed and that's what I've been playing around with most, if I open the blinds more temperatures stabilise but RH will go down to around 30 (even with it being around 50 outside) and if I close them more humidity stabilises but temperature goes way up to around 31, 32.
So 2 days ago I tried flipping to 600w and let it run for an 18h cycle (this I think caused stress and excess heat), then yesterday I accidentally left the humidifier running during the 6h off cycle causing humidity to reach 80 to 90+ (Compounded the previous problem) and when I went back into the room to check on them plants looked terrible with all sorts of issues.
Now I'm not sure what to do, should I feed, do I have nutrient lockout, toxicity, lack of some nutrients etc
Also I would really appreciate some advice on tent setup maybe I'm getting something wrong here.
Thanks for the help, I'll take some pics with white lighting as soon as the light's cycle is finished.
And i hate to throw so much crap at you at one time , but i cant stand saucers under a container , if you can get one of those home depot plastic light grids or something else to prop your plants up on and create a free drain space underneath pots you will be much better off ....Dont worry , we'll get you straightened out ......
Nice to see a good outcome so far keep a eye on things I’m sure you will be fine happy growing .Superb!! They've spent a whole 18h cycle with temps not going over 28oC and the humidity stayed around 65% +/- 5% so it looks as if I might be able to start looking into getting a good VPD! Thank's a bunch your advice has proven to help tenfolds.
Now they have perked up and look as if they are ''living'' again but I've still got these signs of deficiencies/toxicity that I'm struggling to determine...
Should I water/flush/feed/foliar or do nothing, if I do, do nothing should I feed next or just water 50/50 RO + Tap? I'm a little unsure of what the next few steps should be, yesterday they were given 200ml of 90% RO, 10% Tap (I now know not to do this again) water which is close to having been used already and the top soil is starting to be dry and there was no runoff yesterday (1L pots)
My arsenal consists of:
RO Water, Tap Water, BioNova Soil Supermix, BN X-Cel, BN-zym, BN-Missing link.
Then I've got a small bag of guano powder (I'll edit with the NPK) & some Oyster shell powder havn't used either of these before so I wouldn't really know how to use them if need be.
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