Madbud said:

I’m guessing you’ve had caterpillars like everyone else in this glorious, soon to be delivered to your door commonwealth of ours. Its not too late to spray some BTK on her. Check it out. Otherwise, she could go a couple more weeks to peak.

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phuckle said:

hope this is the right forum for this! first time growing a jack herer from seed, lots of work pruning, high stress training, looks like it will give about 16-18 ounces.

question is if it looks ready to harvest, it’s been around 8 weeks flowering, maybe more, can’t remember. i’m also in MA so confronting primo bud rot weather in coming weeks. already had to harvest two others early including an awesome bubba kush.

seems like lots of amber on sugar leaves, lots of milky on buds, though not tons of browning (feels like under fifty percent)

anybody familiar with this strain? i know there are different phenotypes, but i’ve got no idea which it is...

btw, that close up is top of bud, other is sugar leafView attachment 898669View attachment 898670View attachment 898671View attachment 898672

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royfree2grow said:

When I started growing, I whold scope trichomes every day (sometimes more than once a day) and aimed for the perfect amber/milky/clear ratio as a primary indicator for ripeness. It made sense because a significant portion of the professional liturture about cannabis cultivation refer to this as "THE" indicator for plant ripeness.

Thanks to some epic farmers here in the farm who told me they never check trichiome color, I got a different perspective on the matter. Conducting further research, understanding the plant and the following years of growing proved to me that it's a minor indicator at best. Yeah I know many farmers will argue with me on this and that's fine, if I learned anything about growing is that every farmer has their own way of doing things and there is no "Ultimate" way of growing premium quality bud/reaching maximum yield.

As a great farmer once wrote to me (and i'm paraphrasing): "I dont remember the last time I used a scope to checkout trichome color". today, I look at other indicators to determine ripeness such as is the plant still gaining mass at all?, is there new growth of white pistils and how significant is it? what is the pattern of of blades number on leaves from the buttom up and specifically in lateset growth? I look at all of these factors and weigh in their relations to one another.

This turned out much longer that I thougt... your lady looks very nice!
Happy harvest!

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phuckle said:

hope this is the right forum for this! first time growing a jack herer from seed, lots of work pruning, high stress training, looks like it will give about 16-18 ounces.

question is if it looks ready to harvest, it’s been around 8 weeks flowering, maybe more, can’t remember. i’m also in MA so confronting primo bud rot weather in coming weeks. already had to harvest two others early including an awesome bubba kush.

seems like lots of amber on sugar leaves, lots of milky on buds, though not tons of browning (feels like under fifty percent)

anybody familiar with this strain? i know there are different phenotypes, but i’ve got no idea which it is...

btw, that close up is top of bud, other is sugar leafView attachment 898669View attachment 898670View attachment 898671View attachment 898672

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QuestForZest said:

They are driving me bonkers right now!!!! What's BTK? I've been spraying BT. Might have to chop my OG early because every day I go outside and see 6-10 tops gone :'(

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Madbud said:

BTK is for cats, BTI is for skeeters and flies. I’m only spraying 15% Thuracide at about 50:1 every couple nights or after it rains. I think they hatch in rain, always find one or two the next day but for the most part haven’t had a problem. Lost two small buds and they were hardly touched.

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QuestForZest said:

What's the difference between BTK and BT?

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royfree2grow said:

When I started growing, I whold scope trichomes every day (sometimes more than once a day) and aimed for the perfect amber/milky/clear ratio as a primary indicator for ripeness. It made sense because a significant portion of the professional liturture about cannabis cultivation refer to this as "THE" indicator for plant ripeness.

Thanks to some epic farmers here in the farm who told me they never check trichiome color, I got a different perspective on the matter. Conducting further research, understanding the plant and the following years of growing proved to me that it's a minor indicator at best. Yeah I know many farmers will argue with me on this and that's fine, if I learned anything about growing is that every farmer has their own way of doing things and there is no "Ultimate" way of growing premium quality bud/reaching maximum yield.

As a great farmer once wrote to me (and i'm paraphrasing): "I dont remember the last time I used a scope to checkout trichome color". today, I look at other indicators to determine ripeness such as is the plant still gaining mass at all?, is there new growth of white pistils and how significant is it? what is the pattern of of blades number on leaves from the buttom up and specifically in lateset growth? I look at all of these factors and weigh in their relations to one another.

This turned out much longer that I thougt... your lady looks very nice!
Happy harvest!

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Madbud said:

Agree with looking beyond the trichs, and for oldtimers like yourself you can probably feel the ripeness by squeezing but for new growers recognizing what trichs are and whether shes still putting up clear spikes or if the heads are fully developed and clouding up is a lot simpler and pretty reliable.

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phuckle said:

i've done quite a few grows, this is the first year that i bought a jewelers loupe - tbh, it was easier to harvest without one by examining plants, feels like microscopic detail is just distracting! so, given that, feels like another week ;)

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Madbud said:

Agree with looking beyond the trichs, and for oldtimers like yourself you can probably feel the ripeness by squeezing but for new growers recognizing what trichs are and whether shes still putting up clear spikes or if the heads are fully developed and clouding up is a lot simpler and pretty reliable.

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QuestForZest said:

What's the difference between BTK and BT?

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royfree2grow said:

Bacillus thuringiensis has many subspecies. The most famous ones are kurstaki, aizawa and israelensis-which was discovered by "accident". Look it up its very interesting.

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royfree2grow said:

Honestly, I think its onle reliable in some particular cases like if you know the strain/pheno your growing, in that case you are able to have a relative comparisment. Trichome coloration is derived primarily by genetics, so unless you "know" which ratio is supposed to be at a certine period of time, you aren't able to distinguish between genetic traits and actual plant maturity. I remember growing some white widows that had all the signs of maturity except amber trichomes and I waited till mid-late october which is very late for harvest in my area. I ran the same strain in other seasons and I def saw its due to genetics no matter what the environmental conditions and flowering time were.

I'm not saying it's a false indicator just that it's a minor one which can be very missleading if you're unfamiliar with the genetics you're growing.

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phuckle said:

hope this is the right forum for this! first time growing a jack herer from seed, lots of work pruning, high stress training, looks like it will give about 16-18 ounces.

question is if it looks ready to harvest, it’s been around 8 weeks flowering, maybe more, can’t remember. i’m also in MA so confronting primo bud rot weather in coming weeks. already had to harvest two others early including an awesome bubba kush.

seems like lots of amber on sugar leaves, lots of milky on buds, though not tons of browning (feels like under fifty percent)

anybody familiar with this strain? i know there are different phenotypes, but i’ve got no idea which it is...

btw, that close up is top of bud, other is sugar leafView attachment 898669View attachment 898670View attachment 898671View attachment 898672

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