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I am right in the middle of this decision myself.
I will be running Jack's & Ful-Power in my Rockwool setup this round and V+B in another Rockwool room. We shall see..
I haven't done the cost analysis yet, but when purchasing Jack's in bulk I highly doubt V+B could come close.
The bulk pricing offered is pretty good and there really is no way for me to do a complete cost analysis, because I don't know exactly what is in V+B.HR is available in bulk too
I have not figured out a way to lose the sediment,i think its a carrier of some sort.I read that HR was working on an injectable for auto systems,I think @We Solidarity might have some insight or be testing.The bulk pricing offered is pretty good and there really is no way for me to do a complete cost analysis, because I don't know exactly what is in V+B.
Can anyone comment on V+B with irrigation? I know it works, but any pointers or issues that anyone ran into? Smallest GPH emitter someone has used with the powder? Issues letting it sit in a res for several days? No matter how long I let the powder sit in a res before hand watering it always seemed to leave a slight sediment and clog up the shower head on my wand.
Water temps have been a pain in the ass at my new spot. It can come in at 59F sometimes, I don't trust tank heaters yet so I run Little Giant's until it gets into range. What a headache.i start agitating my water with a drill and paint stirrer prior to adding veg bloom, then add slowly. i keep it agitated for 15-20 mins after mixing with an air pump, then feed. It's good in rezzies for 5-6 days with a diaphragm pump to agitate; keeping airstones in there for longer than 25hrs causes fallout and some gunk to form up.
Should also be noted that water under 65 degrees may have trouble dissolving the mix; I add warm water to my rez if it's under 60 degrees.
I have not figured out a way to lose the sediment,i think its a carrier of some sort.I read that HR was working on an injectable for auto systems,I think @We Solidarity might have some insight or be testing.
https://www.thcfarmer.com/community/threads/dosatrons-and-powder-based-nutes-aka-veg-bloom.80752/
i start agitating my water with a drill and paint stirrer prior to adding veg bloom, then add slowly. i keep it agitated for 15-20 mins after mixing with an air pump, then feed. It's good in rezzies for 5-6 days with a diaphragm pump to agitate; keeping airstones in there for longer than 25hrs causes fallout and some gunk to form up.
Should also be noted that water under 65 degrees may have trouble dissolving the mix; I add warm water to my rez if it's under 60 degrees.
Water temps have been a pain in the ass at my new spot. It can come in at 59F sometimes, I don't trust tank heaters yet so I run Little Giant's until it gets into range. What a headache.
I'll try this technique for mixing, thanks.
Smallest GPH emitter someone has used with the powder?
I have been using Jacks for half a year now with great results. I pay $86 for a 25 lb pound bag of jacks and $73 for a 50 lb bag of Calcium Nitrate from customhydronutrients.com. A total of $159 which includes shipping. A 25 lb bag of veg+bloom is $485 including tax.
I've seen a lot of recipes for Jacks and have used a few them and the best results I have seen is by using their recommended amounts written on the bag. I fill my rez to 50 gall and add 185 grams of Jacks and 125 grams of Calcium Nitrate, I do not add anything else. This comes out to 3.7 g/per gal of jacks and 2.5 g/per gal of calcium nitrate. I can give the ppms of N-P-K CA MG and S if anyone wants them. My final E.C is usually 1.6. Another thing I like is i can adjust the ppms of any nutrient very easily by adding more or less of Jacks or Calcium Nitrate. I grow in straight coco and I feed my plants this mix from rooted clone till flush with out any problems.
Attached pics are an Alien Rift mother and Grape Og at day 48 both fed this same mix.
They look amazing. I'm trying my first hydro (I'm soil grower) These just look so good. Hmmmmmm now I wish I hadn't bought my nutes at same time as my kit.
If you decide to switch to jack which I highly recommend.
Save them, there are strains you may grow in the future that Jacks is second and I use canna for them. If you never intend to do some of the medical strains that are hard to grow and require different nutrient ratios, then use them up. Don't switch in bloom but in veg I switched more than one grow, I have help with, over to jacks at 50% for 5 days don't flush in coco unless you have made mistake.
Flush coco by cutting nutrients to in my case 25% for one day in my case I can see them reaching and 50% then full strength. I do it twice during veg and once the second week of bloom. That is when I switch mixtures to my bloom mix. Is same as veg and is very close to 3-2-1 but in bloom I use moab and backstrap and jacks a 40% some say 50% but it will burn the tips of the leaves. Choose your media if coco is it. Think: you use coco because is a fluffy mixture that the water passes thru why would you start with a brick get a bag of good stuff.
Capulator has switch me to drip to drain with his posts and is great. The reciruation blues are not for me I use about 8 to 10 gallons a day and send it to my garden and fruit trees.
sending a pm your way re: the v+bI run it at 6 grams per gallon.
5 grams for veg.
PM me if anyone needs a discount on ordering Hydroponic Research nutrients.
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