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Who came up with this program? Certainly not General Hydroponics, a company with an R&D team who have put plenty of time and effort into their product.Good clarification,
the kiss method involves using nothing but Maxi bloom throughout the entire grow at a rate of about one teaspoon per gallon. If needed you add cal-mag and silica if required.
It’s a very proven and effective method because you don’t change anything from start to finish. Again, this is only possible using Coco.
As mentioned I’ve used this method for four different grows and it’s wonderful for its simplicity and results.
Here is the thread: https://forum.grasscity.com/threads/micks-coco-k-i-s-s-scrog-method.1452599/
i've heard of people using veg nutrients only through the entire grow...never bloom nutes but to each their ownWho came up with this program? Certainly not General Hydroponics, a company with an R&D team who have put plenty of time and effort into their product.
Its not that we don't understand your attempt to use the "KISS" method. It's that you don't understand that MaxiBloom is only 1 part of a 2 part nutrient program. If you use both MaxiGrow and MaxiBloom AS DIRECTED BY General Hydroponics ... use at half strength if you prefer as @TinFoilHat suggested ... you should be fine.
Your plants are not getting the nutrition they require. Carry on if you like, but not only I but all the others "who you say don't understand" what you're trying to do have told you that you need to feed your plants correctly by stage of growth. Most of us who responded in the other thread are experienced growers.
Here's the thing. Coco has zero nutrients of its own unless you're buying a hopped up mix. If you had a good nutrient rich soil mix, your KISS method would probably work just fine. You're in coco and it needs to be handled "as coco" and not treated as soil. @2Bad ... I believe he's a coco grower. Say what you want about experienced growers "not understanding," but to those of us who have experience growing ... we know better. We know what we're talking about.
I've heard of that too. What I've not hear of is someone trying to get nitrogen from a sterile mix.i've heard of people using veg nutrients only through the entire grow...never bloom nutes but to each their own
Thanks for the response, I mean absolutely no disrespect, but because you don’t understand the kiss growing method does not mean it’s wrong or incorrect . I did include a link to a popular thread at GrassCity and hundreds and hundreds of people have used it successfully including myself and many of my local growing friends use the kiss method. I would encourage you to look through the thread. Perhaps your concerns will be addressed. It does not require anything else other than maxi Bloom. It is tested And has demonstrated proven results time and time again. Again, absolutely no disrespect to you, but there are other ways to grow beyond what general hydroponics lists on the back of their bottles.Who came up with this program? Certainly not General Hydroponics, a company with an R&D team who have put plenty of time and effort into their product.
Its not that we don't understand your attempt to use the "KISS" method. It's that you don't understand that MaxiBloom is only 1 part of a 2 part nutrient program. If you use both MaxiGrow and MaxiBloom AS DIRECTED BY General Hydroponics ... use at half strength if you prefer as @TinFoilHat suggested ... you should be fine.
Your plants are not getting the nutrition they require. Carry on if you like, but not only I but all the others "who you say don't understand" what you're trying to do have told you that you need to feed your plants correctly by stage of growth. Most of us who responded in the other thread are experienced growers.
Here's the thing. Coco has zero nutrients of its own unless you're buying a hopped up mix. If you had a good nutrient rich soil mix, your KISS method would probably work just fine. You're in coco and it needs to be handled "as coco" and not treated as soil. @2Bad ... I believe he's a coco grower. Say what you want about experienced growers "not understanding," but to those of us who have experience growing ... we know better. We know what we're talking about.
I'm not trying to insult you, but i think that statement you made is very subjective. "very proven and effective"? idk... the big reason this method won't always work is because it is too simple. What @MIGrampaUSA is telling you is "facts." the people who make MaxiBloom (general hydroponics) spend time and money on research into their nutrient programs. While yes, they are in it to make money, but if there is a problem with your plants only using one of their 2 part system, that would be on you.It’s a very proven and effective method because you don’t change anything from start to finish. Again, this is only possible using Coco.
Lol! I feel like I’m explaining the concept of an electric vehicle replacing gasoline and people are telling me it’s impossible, and yet it’s happening. Just let it go. I will figure it out. Thank you and all respect to everybody including grandpa, lolI'm not trying to insult you, but i think that statement you made is very subjective. "very proven and effective"? idk... the big reason this method won't always work is because it is too simple. What @MIGrampaUSA is telling you is "facts." the people who make MaxiBloom (general hydroponics) spend time and money on research into their nutrient programs. While yes, they are in it to make money, but if there is a problem with your plants only using one of their 2 part system, that would be on you.
I completely understand it worked before. But if it doesn't work this time, the answer isn't more MaxiBloom or "fresh" maxibloom. Come on now... To "fix" this you will have to modify your method, your KISS method.
In coco? Someone is spinning you in the wrong direction.Thanks for the response, I mean absolutely no disrespect, but because you don’t understand the kiss growing method does not mean it’s wrong or incorrect . I did include a link to a popular thread at GrassCity and hundreds and hundreds of people have used it successfully including myself and many of my local growing friends are use the kiss method. I would encourage you to look through the thread. Perhaps your concerns will be addressed. It does not require anything else other than maxi Bloom. It is tested And has demonstrated proven results time and time again. Again, absolutely no disrespect to you, but there are other ways to grow beyond what general hydroponics lists on the back of their bottles.
No, I fully understand electric vehicles and I'll embrace them once the infrastructure is in place to support them. Just right now, there's not a lot of places to charge them and I don't have 220 in my garage.Lol! I feel like I’m explaining the concept of an electric vehicle replacing gasoline and people are telling me it’s impossible, and yet it’s happening. Just let it go. I will figure it out. Thank you and all respect to everybody including grandpa, lol
listen... we understand your method. i read the article. but every strain has different needs. every light will make different needs on the plant. there are too many variable for one grow recipe to work everytime.Lol! I feel like I’m explaining the concept of an electric vehicle replacing gasoline and people are telling me it’s impossible, and yet it’s happening. Just let it go. I will figure it out. Thank you and all respect to everybody including grandpa, lol
That's exactly what I've been trying to say. Thanks @GreenGalaxyFarmwould add feeding only maxi bloom in flower when you are running a super soil for veg maybe, not growth nutrient during veg? what kind of optimal results can you expect with this method
if you feel no one else gets it, it's because we don't get that you don't get it.Lol! I feel like I’m explaining the concept of an electric vehicle replacing gasoline and people are telling me it’s impossible, and yet it’s happening. Just let it go. I will figure it out. Thank you and all respect to everybody including grandpa, lol
The electric vehicle analogy was simply an analogy. I won’t argue facts about that, lol.No, I fully understand electric vehicles and I'll embrace them once the infrastructure is in place to support them. Just right now, there's not a lot of places to charge them and I don't have 220 in my garage.
My problem with your method is the media you're using. I've said it repeatedly. Treat coco as coco. It's not soil. Your kiss method was designed with the soil grower in mind. Most good mixes have enough nutrients for a 4 week veg.
I just said I looked at the posts in that forum. They're not optimal.The electric vehicle analogy was simply an analogy. I won’t argue facts about that, lol.
Also, I have suggested people take a look at the thread on the other form. The kiss method is only for Coco and I completely understand the properties of Coco versus soil. Again, I would encourage you guys to check out the thread - you may actually learn a new technique. The kiss method, I believe is only intended for cocoa, and no other growing mediums.
YES!!!!!Edit: we are simply saying why slack on an extra nutrient when it's so little work compared to growing a plant out for 4-5 months and it could improve your plants
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