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This is a kit from Rapid led, 3500K cobs, white not bluple light, 12 cobs fills a 4x4 tent, that said if I’m translating your tent it’s 6’ square, you’ll need more to fill that. My fixture complete was $1200 using vero 29 cobs which though good aren’t the top shelf cree’s.
PS, I’m only driving each cob to 50 watts each, so 600 watts from the wall...that’s to keep them in the sweet spot for efficiency over light production and heat.
These listed above ^^^, HLG quantum board kits, spyder x by fluence are the ones that come to mind. I'm sure there are others but these have proven records. You can get DIY kits or pre-assembled. Rapid LED, timber grow lights, Horticulture lighting group, Growers lights and Fluence are some good places to start looking.This is a kit from Rapid led, 3500K cobs, white not bluple light, 12 cobs fills a 4x4 tent, that said if I’m translating your tent it’s 6’ square, you’ll need more to fill that. My fixture complete was $1200 using vero 29 cobs which though good aren’t the top shelf cree’s.
PS, I’m only driving each cob to 50 watts each, so 600 watts from the wall...that’s to keep them in the sweet spot for efficiency over light production and heat.
My takeaway is that it’s not so much the lumens as the photosynthetically active radiation or “Par” readings that are significant.Sweet setup! Yeah, we're pretty much on the same page.... you run 600 watts in 16ft2 and I run 2400 (less efficient) watts in 50ft2. I'd say that if you standardize it for bulb efficiency differences we're pretty much putting out the same lumen/ft2 .
I like the individual light setup's versatility. If you look at my tent, I don't know how I would've been able to install the (admittedly bigger than necessary) air filter + extractor with a boxed system or a widespread LED setup like HLG's. However, what I REALLY dig about your lights is that all of the replacement pieces are readily available and you're running 12 individual lights. If one goes out, the show goes on and you can pretty much DIY repair it for maybe $20 tops.... nicee...
They all work so i shoot for quality, reliability, efficiency and last value (not price) so that eliminates most of the knock offs even though they grow plants too. Personally i use the HLG-600 but there are lots of good LED's. Custom fixtures allow you more ability to build to your needs personally i feel its worth it.
I have been looking at a company in Ireland called Migro. The setup would be 10 separate lights on a rack. I like the idea as you can get a better light spread. https://www.migrolight.com/migro-600/Sweet setup! Yeah, we're pretty much on the same page.... you run 600 watts in 16ft2 and I run 2400 (less efficient) watts in 50ft2. I'd say that if you standardize it for bulb efficiency differences we're pretty much putting out the same lumen/ft2 .
I like the individual light setup's versatility. If you look at my tent, I don't know how I would've been able to install the (admittedly bigger than necessary) air filter + extractor with a boxed system or a widespread LED setup like HLG's. However, what I REALLY dig about your lights is that all of the replacement pieces are readily available and you're running 12 individual lights. If one goes out, the show goes on and you can pretty much DIY repair it for maybe $20 tops.... nicee...
Yes I have been looking in depth at the hlg light,They all work so i shoot for quality, reliability, efficiency and last value (not price) so that eliminates most of the knock offs even though they grow plants too. Personally i use the HLG-600 but there are lots of good LED's. Custom fixtures allow you more ability to build to your needs personally i feel its worth it.
Also failed to note that this pic has been darkened to show detail in the plants and is not representative with regards to the lights full illuminating potential...This is a kit from Rapid led, 3500K cobs, white not bluple light, 12 cobs fills a 4x4 tent, that said if I’m translating your tent it’s 6’ square, you’ll need more to fill that. My fixture complete was $1200 using vero 29 cobs which though good aren’t the top shelf cree’s.
PS, I’m only driving each cob to 50 watts each, so 600 watts from the wall...that’s to keep them in the sweet spot for efficiency over light production and heat.
Are you saying it takes 2000-2400 watts of quality led lights to match 2-1000 watt hps bulbs? Also you said you will still need a/c with led... I had to use a/c with hps but i dont use a/c at all now with QB leds. Really depends on your starting environment.To be honest, I went through the same phase you're in right now. You know what I settled on, cheap China brand 300W (true watts) COB LED lights. They've been running for about 4 months now and not a single failure. They're about $110/each so if you go for an 8 light setup (see photo of mine below), you're talking roughly $900 and trust me, these things are powerful AF. The only drawback is that their size and COB LED style mean that they do put out more heat than other, more evenly spaced, products out there.
That being said, I wholeheartedly recommend not buying into the marketing BS currently floating around. A full spectrum LED light will put out what the plants need, period. No need for all sorts of different bulbs. The truth is that even though LEDs may be slightly better than HPS in producing grams per watt... remember that this is still measured in watts. If you want 2 HPS bulb equivalents in yield, be ready to buy 2000-2400 true led watts in lights. You just can't expect LEDs to magically make watts more efficient. Their main advantage is that they can be cheap and disperse the heat upwards, leaving more room for plants to grow near it. Definitely not nearly as hot as an HPS but they will require AC depending on how many you cram in there.
You say you use QB leds, what size boards are you using? Are they QB260 V2?Are you saying it takes 2000-2400 watts of quality led lights to match 2-1000 watt hps bulbs? Also you said you will still need a/c with led... I had to use a/c with hps but i dont use a/c at all now with QB leds. Really depends on your starting environment.
Are you saying it takes 2000-2400 watts of quality led lights to match 2-1000 watt hps bulbs? Also you said you will still need a/c with led... I had to use a/c with hps but i dont use a/c at all now with QB leds. Really depends on your starting environment.
I have one HLG qb 260 XW in veg and and 2 of them in flower.
He was getting at the fact it does not take 2000-2400 watts of quality LED's to reach the equivalent of 2000w of HPS. more likely about 1200-1300w ish would reach the equivalent of 2000w HPSI actually think that LED lights beat HPS watt for watt. That being said, light is basically the plants food source. You cant go from blasting it with 1200watts from an HPS and switch to 600 true watts of LED and expect the same results.
You have to at least come close to matching the HPS. LEDs running cooler allow you to place them closer to the plants which greatly increases their results vs HPS.
But yeah, everything else equal, you're going to have to pump watts at the plants regardless of the light source. So maybe you can set up 800 watts of LEDs and get similar results to a 1k watt HPS bulb but don't think for a minute that you can take a 10k watt room and bring it down to 5k LED watts and get the same results.... it just wont work...
Think about lumen and PAR meters, they dont care what the light source is. Plants are somewhat similar. You can match or exceed HPS figures with less watts if using LEDs and a closer proximity to the canopy, but you can't halve your light/energy output and think that you'll get similar results. IMHO, LEDs will shave a few watts off your bill but if you want big yields, you're going to have to target an electric output which wont varie all that much from other light sources.
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