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Hello all,

I am looking for a small grow setup for a good price. Or links or ideas for a small compact system.


Thanks for your time! any suggestions are welcomed. I am in Washington
 
I live in an apartment and I want to grow 1-4 plants. I want to either make a system and place it on the porch or make a small setup and place it in the apartment. If I place it in the apartment I need it to not smell or smell very little.
Do you have any suggestions for equipment and strains?

I need help with

Lighting (led vs other lighting)
Growing enclosure (tent vs. box)
Strains
Fertilizers
Any other information that would help me.


If anyone lives in the OR/WA area and has extra or old equipment they want to sell let me know!
 
Hey @saltwater look at this set up here: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=78862

I used to run a similar set up, works very effectively. I also am into the second grow with my current set up which you can look at in the threads in my signature. My current set up ran me about $300 initially to get up and running including nutrients and all accessories.

Things you'll want to consider are your medium, nutrient line (if any) and how much work you're willing to put in. Soil is nice for moms and plants you don't mind growing with ok vigor. Coco is good for vegging and flowering due to rate of growth and overall quality. The nice thing with coco is you can use salt based nutrients without concern of upsetting the microbes or waiting weeks for things to recover from a mistake. You just have to be on top of what's going on in your box more so than soil where you can water and walk away for a couple days without concern of things drying out or getting crazy.

I saw your message, will get to it in a moment, just wanted to get a reply in here in case anyone else decides to come through with a similar question.

One Love,
tobh
 
I live in an apartment and I want to grow 1-4 plants.

What style apartment? How many neighbors & where are they located?

I want to either make a system and place it on the porch

If you are worried about the smell because of neighbors, having it outside is going to make it all the more noticeable. Now you not only have to worry about the wind blowing their way, but you also have to worry about anyone seeing it. Unless you intentionally go micro, the plants can get pretty large. Additionally, depending on how extensive you go, & the route to the grow space, people are going to see you traveling that path, a lot. Bringing water in & out, plants in & out, any maintenance you have to do on the tent. If you put it outside, they will also notice you spending so much time in your grow space. (which you will)

or make a small setup and place it in the apartment.

I think we need to know what your definition of "small" is? Tents are made for exactly what you want... an instant grow space. I would consider a 4'x4' x 7' tall, a small tent. You might not. So we can't really get anywhere until you figure that out. Also, we would need to know more precisely how many plants. There is a massive difference in what you will need for 1 plant, vs 4.

If I place it in the apartment I need it to not smell or smell very little.

You will have to pay attention to what strains you grow then. Super Silver Haze is probably off the list. If you spend the $, the smell is pretty easily remedied with a carbon filter. But some strains, once you open the tent, the smell will travel quickly.

Do you have any suggestions for equipment and strains?

The effects of strains vary because we are all unique. E.g. I have a Master OG, that I absolutely love, most other people don't appreciate it. A lot of people love Blue Dream...I'm not a fan. But if you tell us what ails you, we can get you started on the right path.

I need help with

Lighting (led vs other lighting)
Growing enclosure (tent vs. box)
Strains
Fertilizers
Any other information that would help me.

Lighting (led vs other lighting) - We need to know what your plans are for grow room size & what your ambient temperatures are in the space you plan to grow. In an apt, you probably don't want to deal with ducting, so maybe an led? But need more input.

Growing enclosure (tent vs. box) Tent's are easier obviously. Quicker to put together, easy to take apart, most have a flood table which will be important for you living in an apt. (Need to know what style apt & where you are in it vs your neighbors) You also need to be reasonably close to water. Maybe not "need" to, but after a couple runs with an inconvenient water source you will be kicking yourself.

Strains - What have you had that you liked?

Fertilizers - You plan on doing soil type medium? or Hydro?

Soil is fairly easy. I can give you the recipe I use. It's forgiving, not much potential for flooding.

Hydro ratchets up the production quite a bit. I think it's easier to maintain. But you have to invest in some meters & the cost of whichever hydro setup you run. However, depending on your apt situation (you might have half a duplex to yourself, I don't know yet) leaks/floods are always a concern. Unless you do DWC in an unplumbed bucket, you always have to cover that base. Still though, what if you accidentally knock a DWC bucket over? If you are on the 3rd floor of an apt, the second floor is going to get a surprise. My space is in my basement, so if it were to flood, it's not that big a deal.

If anyone lives in the OR/WA area and has extra or old equipment they want to sell let me know!

You probably won't get that many takers for something like that. It's not bad form, it's just that you are a brand new farmer. You have to work a while to build up trust. Just consult with Craigslist, usually plenty to be found there. We can't help you with what to look for without more details.
 
Sorry guys I just needed to do some more research to determine if I wanted to grow inside or outside.

I have about 4x4 space I could use to grow inside. But I would like to keep it as small as possible. There is a lot of apartment complexes where I am. That's why I would like to use a carbon filter or something to aid in hiding the smell.

I was considering LEDs because they put off less heat.

My apartment stays around 70degrees year round inside. Pretty warm because I'm up high in the top floor.

Here in Oregon it is legal to have up to four plants for personal use. So 4 would be my max. But of course like most people I don't want to spend a ton to start up right now. But I know it's not cheap to get into this. So basically I just want a setup for a decent price that will get the job done .

Sorry guys I'm new at this. So if I ask stupid questions I apologize. I'm doing as much research as I can.

I do saltwater aquariums normally so I may have some of the equipment I can use, like leds and all.
(I have too much saltwater equipment lol)
 
Yeah that was going to be my suggestion as well. When I was living up there, I saw a consistent flow of equipment on CL, most asking what they paid for it but some actually asking reasonable prices. If you buy used, don't pay more than half of the MSRP, simply too many issues can come with used equipment.

Since you're looking at a larger area than what I would consider micro, I would go for a tent that would fit in that foot print. That way you'll actually pull enough product to last you a few months before needing another harvest. Having done saltwater aquariums, you'll be surprised how much can be used for growing. You probably have a few lights that would suffice as well as meters and whatnot that can be used as well.
 
3rd floor, I would do soil. I just wouldn't want to even have the chance of me dumping a bucket over, (or any water mishap in hydro)

I would stay inside with a carbon filter. You are going to want the biggest tent you can fit. After your first run, if you got a mini-fridge set up, when you could have fit a 4x4 you will kick yourself. That being said the outer dimensions of a 4x4, need to be more like 5x5.

But they make 3'x3' tents. I think I've seen 2'x2' even. When I say you will "want" a bigger tent, I mean out of excitement. The tent I would get, would be the one that fit my spot the best. But if those two collide then great.

I was considering LEDs because they put off less heat.

That isn't true. Switching from a 600 watt led to a 1kw HPS dropped my temps by 4 degrees. You just have to have substantial light cooling where you can funnel air into the sealed hood, across the bulb & back out of the tent. All led's (that I have seen) just dump their heat into the tent. But to cool a 1kw involves duct work & in your case, using the built in AC of the apt. So, how much time, design, effort & expense to you want to put into cooling an HID bulb? What you are describing, LED sounds the easiest.

That initial statement is only true if both lights are being cooled with their built in design. HID, you have to go with a system designed to cool the light. But an LED can get a tent hot.
 
In thinking more about it, you are going to have ducting anyway. So HID wouldn't be AS much of a hassle. Keep in mind the filter is going to take up room in your tent.

But I have seen people take a cap filter, with a 400 ft3 fan pulling air through it, & pushing air out the sealed light fixture, which is vented to the open space. You kill two rabbits with one punch.

This can work great, provided the ambient temp of the outside area is low enough. I would just advise getting a really good fan on it because that filter kills any odor, it really scrubs the air, but it puts quite a drag on the fan at the same time. Get a rocking fan (you need one anyway) & you could do HID or LED.
 
I grow in a high rise in a high density urban area, in my spare bedroom. And I can't vent or exhaust to the outside at all. I've learned to double the amount of carbon filtration needed and to keep the air circulating from room to room via exhaust fans.

Best of luck.
Peace
 
In thinking more about it, you are going to have ducting anyway. So HID wouldn't be AS much of a hassle. Keep in mind the filter is going to take up room in your tent.

But I have seen people take a cap filter, with a 400 ft3 fan pulling air through it, & pushing air out the sealed light fixture, which is vented to the open space. You kill two rabbits with one punch.

This can work great, provided the ambient temp of the outside area is low enough. I would just advise getting a really good fan on it because that filter kills any odor, it really scrubs the air, but it puts quite a drag on the fan at the same time. Get a rocking fan (you need one anyway) & you could do HID or LED.

In fact, if the space the tent would be in, is not enclosed e.g. the tent is inside a closet, & you have standard A/C, I reckon you would have lower temps! than if you got an led with a crap fan on the filter. But unless you spend a lot & get a plastic fan (or maybe metal ones exist, chime in) the powerful fan is going to be noisy. Even an $$ plastic one, you are going to hear it. As would you with a cheap plastic one.
 
The thing about the lighting (in my opinion, you will have to do your own research) is that you could crush it in a 3'x3' for cheaper than you could build/buy a good led, considering that some of the parts used to run a cooled HID set up, compliment other necessary aspects of your grow. & 600 watts is 600 watts to the electric company. You could use a 600 watt led, it's going to cost you the same to run as a 600 watt hid.

Off hand, I don't know of an LED I would recommend that is under $1,000. The cheapest I've seen one built was considerably over $700 & that doesn't factor in your labor.

Depending on where you live, you can walk in & out of your hydro shop with a ballast, a Horti bulb, a cooled housing, the carbon filter, a potent fan, & duct supplies for close to $600. (Support your local hydro stores guys, I get stuff cheaper than I could get online). & you would absolutely kill it in a tent that size.

You could build the above mentioned LED, spend the $700+ your labor. It's a damn good light. But you would still have to purchase the carbon filter, the fan, the ductwork etc.

In my opinion, in your situation, HID is cheaper, easier, & prevents redundancy.
 
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