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LST & feeding...am i doing it right?

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So this is my first grow and was completely unexpected. I'm going to be growing autos in a closet grow setup I'm building but this one is a random seed my brother threw in one of my pots outside one day un-beknownst to me. Well it actually sprouted and grew without any help for about roughly 2 weeks until I noticed it. Started caring for it and it did indeed turn out to be female. I've transplanted it into a 7 gallon pot with a 70/30 mix of FFOF and perlite. I've been watering every 3 to 4 days with nutes. 3ml of calmag, 3ml flora-micro, and 3ml flora-gro per gallon giving her about a half gallon of water per feeding. Outdoors our temps have been min/max 68-92 degrees and humidity between 48-78% like I said outdoors. I think her coloration looks healthy enough but afraid I might not be feeding her enough, she is roughly 7 weeks now in these photos. I think I possibly waited a lil too long(6 weeks) to LST my main stalk seeing as the very outer skin layer split slightly at the bend but a week later it looks like its healed rather well and she is still growing roughly 3/4in a day. I topped her as well last week an her new tops grew roughly 5 inches in 7 days. I did end up pruning out some of the very large fan leaves as no matter which way I tucked them they were still blocking sun or laying on the soil and I LST all the branches. Does it look like I'm LSTing my branches right? Does anyone see or read anything they would change? I've been watering and lst/pruning etc at night so as not to cause too much stress to her during the heat of the day. Thoughts? And thanks ahead of time!
 
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In my own opinion they could look better.. have you done any research on monster cropping or super cropping? And moving forward with your feeding and your grow medium , I personally don't recommend general hydroponics with soil grows but it can be done.. I currently use general hydroponics but I'm using the Lucas method which is one part micro two-part bloom no gro at all, ffof is hot and even with the added perlite I'm just assuming the parts per million and even electrical conductivity of your medium is high. do you have any of those measurements? Outdoor can be rough because temperature is above 85 can be detrimental to cannabis. Most outdoor growers have a greenhouse of sorts utilizing the sun yet still controlling the environment.

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So this is my first grow and was completely unexpected. I'm going to be growing autos in a closet grow setup I'm building but this one is a random seed my brother threw in one of my pots outside one day un-beknownst to me. Well it actually sprouted and grew without any help for about roughly 2 weeks until I noticed it. Started caring for it and it did indeed turn out to be female. I've transplanted it into a 7 gallon pot with a 70/30 mix of FFOF and perlite. I've been watering every 3 to 4 days with nutes. 3ml of calmag, 3ml flora-micro, and 3ml flora-gro per gallon giving her about a half gallon of water per feeding. Outdoors our temps have been min/max 68-92 degrees and humidity between 48-78% like I said outdoors. I think her coloration looks healthy enough but afraid I might not be feeding her enough, she is roughly 7 weeks now in these photos. I think I possibly waited a lil too long(6 weeks) to LST my main stalk seeing as the very outer skin layer split slightly at the bend but a week later it looks like its healed rather well and she is still growing roughly 3/4in a day. I topped her as well last week an her new tops grew roughly 5 inches in 7 days. I did end up pruning out some of the very large fan leaves as no matter which way I tucked them they were still blocking sun or laying on the soil and I LST all the branches. Does it look like I'm LSTing my branches right? Does anyone see or read anything they would change? I've been watering and lst/pruning etc at night so as not to cause too much stress to her during the heat of the day. Thoughts? And thanks ahead of time!View attachment 996939View attachment 996940View attachment 996941
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Let them fill in a bit now then trim. My 2 are outdoor also only been outdoor since start of july full sun with the humidity it's been over 100 degrees n there doing fine. 2nd pic is my critical kush in week 3 flowering indoors see how I leave it filled in more bud sites.
 

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Tornado what are feeding and they look very robust and healthy
 
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Tornado what are feeding and they look very robust and healthy
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Thanks I use medi one 4-3-3 it's a 1 part nutrient you use it for both veg n bloom. It stinks like shit lol smells like fish n molasses. Works great though.
 

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In my own opinion they could look better.. have you done any research on monster cropping or super cropping? And moving forward with your feeding and your grow medium , I personally don't recommend general hydroponics with soil grows but it can be done.. I currently use general hydroponics but I'm using the Lucas method which is one part micro two-part bloom no gro at all, ffof is hot and even with the added perlite I'm just assuming the parts per million and even electrical conductivity of your medium is high. do you have any of those measurements? Outdoor can be rough because temperature is above 85 can be detrimental to cannabis. Most outdoor growers have a greenhouse of sorts utilizing the sun yet still controlling the environment.

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Thanks for the response, I do agree they could look better, other plants I've seen at that age looked much fuller with vegetation, I mainly meant the coloration of the leaves, it may be harder to tell from these pics because of the flash taken at night I need to get some day pics, they are more uniform in color than shown. Not sure if growth is due to the strain because it was an unexpected grow idk what it is, I just assume that it is a photo period plant due to its age and still being vegative and not flowering already. Or it could be just that I'm new and still figuring everything out lol so this has been more of a practice run, get the feel of things and see what happens kind of deal if that makes sense. This is the only plant I'll be growing outdoors once my indoor setup is complete I'll be strictly inside and wont have to worry about the natural environment. I have read a little on monster/super cropping but not very much yet, and I have not heard of the Lucas method before. I'll have to look it up. GH is just what I saw most in the articles I read and vids I've watched, I plan on trying different nutes to see what works best for me and my plants on future grows. I did read AFTER transplanting into the FFOF that it is/can be a hot soil especially for certain strains but I haven't seen any signs of burn though so I guess I lucked out on that. When I start future grows I've seen many use a Dixie cup worth of plain soil in center for seedling stage filled around with FFOF so that by the time the roots stretch through the plain soil they wont burn. I have no idea about the electrical conductivity, but my ppm last couple weeks fluctuates between 400-450 ppm, and I've been PHing my water/nute feed to 6.3.
 
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Let them fill in a bit now then trim. My 2 are outdoor also only been outdoor since start of july full sun with the humidity it's been over 100 degrees n there doing fine. 2nd pic is my critical kush in week 3 flowering indoors see how I leave it filled in more bud sites.
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Those are some pretty looking plants! And yeah I'll let them fill out more from this point on, unless it's ok to continue topping the stronger branches?
 
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with all that you just described I think you'll be fine sounds like you know what you're doing you just need to invest a little more time into what it is that you're using

Cheers mate and happy growing
 
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with all that you just described I think you'll be fine sounds like you know what you're doing you just need to invest a little more time into what it is that you're using

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Thanks! Wouldn't say I know what I'm doing lol but this isn't something I just jumped into either like people I've known. I've been reading articles/forums and watching vids now for several months to try and get a basic understanding at least to get me going without too many complications off the bat.
 
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Here is a pic of SODK auto at day 17, pruned 1 set and am lst ing my branches, allso leaf tucking, a high maintenance strain, but there to eary to feed, good size but i allways wait till day 21, go light on nutrients autos are notoriously eays to burn.
 

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So this is my first grow and was completely unexpected. I'm going to be growing autos in a closet grow setup I'm building but this one is a random seed my brother threw in one of my pots outside one day un-beknownst to me. Well it actually sprouted and grew without any help for about roughly 2 weeks until I noticed it. Started caring for it and it did indeed turn out to be female. I've transplanted it into a 7 gallon pot with a 70/30 mix of FFOF and perlite. I've been watering every 3 to 4 days with nutes. 3ml of calmag, 3ml flora-micro, and 3ml flora-gro per gallon giving her about a half gallon of water per feeding. Outdoors our temps have been min/max 68-92 degrees and humidity between 48-78% like I said outdoors. I think her coloration looks healthy enough but afraid I might not be feeding her enough, she is roughly 7 weeks now in these photos. I think I possibly waited a lil too long(6 weeks) to LST my main stalk seeing as the very outer skin layer split slightly at the bend but a week later it looks like its healed rather well and she is still growing roughly 3/4in a day. I topped her as well last week an her new tops grew roughly 5 inches in 7 days. I did end up pruning out some of the very large fan leaves as no matter which way I tucked them they were still blocking sun or laying on the soil and I LST all the branches. Does it look like I'm LSTing my branches right? Does anyone see or read anything they would change? I've been watering and lst/pruning etc at night so as not to cause too much stress to her during the heat of the day. Thoughts? And thanks ahead of time!View attachment 996939View attachment 996940View attachment 996941
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this plant looks to be over loved....a little to much water and maybe too many nute's but maybe just a little overwatering causing some uptake issues ...probly both in my opinion. let her dry out until the pot feels light and give her minimal water for a few weeks i bet you will see some positive changes then add feed slowly...it's real easy to throw things out of balance using soil and synthetic fertilizer ....less is more with many types of pot plants...Cheers bro
 
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Thanks for the response, I do agree they could look better, other plants I've seen at that age looked much fuller with vegetation, I mainly meant the coloration of the leaves, it may be harder to tell from these pics because of the flash taken at night I need to get some day pics, they are more uniform in color than shown. Not sure if growth is due to the strain because it was an unexpected grow idk what it is, I just assume that it is a photo period plant due to its age and still being vegative and not flowering already. Or it could be just that I'm new and still figuring everything out lol so this has been more of a practice run, get the feel of things and see what happens kind of deal if that makes sense. This is the only plant I'll be growing outdoors once my indoor setup is complete I'll be strictly inside and wont have to worry about the natural environment. I have read a little on monster/super cropping but not very much yet, and I have not heard of the Lucas method before. I'll have to look it up. GH is just what I saw most in the articles I read and vids I've watched, I plan on trying different nutes to see what works best for me and my plants on future grows. I did read AFTER transplanting into the FFOF that it is/can be a hot soil especially for certain strains but I haven't seen any signs of burn though so I guess I lucked out on that. When I start future grows I've seen many use a Dixie cup worth of plain soil in center for seedling stage filled around with FFOF so that by the time the roots stretch through the plain soil they wont burn. I have no idea about the electrical conductivity, but my ppm last couple weeks fluctuates between 400-450 ppm, and I've been PHing my water/nute feed to 6.3.
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ppm's in organics NOT accurate....most organics dont register but it will give you a base line when you get your soil mix dialed in properly so it's not a waste of time
 
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this plant looks to be over loved....a little to much water and maybe too many nute's but maybe just a little overwatering causing some uptake issues ...probly both in my opinion. let her dry out until the pot feels light and give her minimal water for a few weeks i bet you will see some positive changes then add feed slowly...it's real easy to throw things out of balance using soil and synthetic fertilizer ....less is more with many types of pot plants...Cheers bro
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I could very well be over loving her, 1st time parent syndrome I guess you could call it lol it's one of those "am I doing enough for her?", "am I not giving her enough?" kinda thing. She's in a 7 gallon pot with a 70/30 mix of FFOF/perlite and I've been watering her every 3-4 days with nutes added into water every time for 3 weeks now. I've been keeping the PH at around 6.3-6.5. Planned on switching to a schedule of only giving nutes every other watering. On plain watering days should it just be plain water PHd' or should I still put calmag in the water in every feeding? Been doing 3ml calmag, 3ml flora-micro, 3ml flora-gro per gallon and giving her approximately 1qt-1/2 gal when watering. Soil last night was moist only 1 knuckle deep so I didnt water her. Temps outside where I am have been stupid hot this week, 90+ and last 2 days has been 100+ so was afraid of heat stress but so far have seen no signs of damage so that's good.
 
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Yes the hot weather kind of makes it a little tough growing and pots at times... And you don't have to be a first-time parent to overlove your plants... I see some of the most experienced growers out there doing the same thing occasionally myself included..always start off with light nutrients and work your way up taking into account what you put in the soil as far as organics because they don't break down overnight it takes months sometimes for them to generate nutrients and when they start generating nutrients and you're adding synthetic nutrients on top of that....Boom... An issue pops up... And then there are some plants that you can throw just about anything on them and they will just keep growing without a hitch... And some like one of my ladies right now even sees a bottle of Cal mag and she gives me her middle finger... Life is a learning process at all ages... Maybe someone like @Aquaman could give you better detail. .. just keep in mind that the site advisors have answered the same question eight different ways to countless people and it might take a little time for them to get back at you.. just browse around kill a few hours reading
 
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Yes the hot weather kind of makes it a little tough growing and pots at times... And you don't have to be a first-time parent to overlove your plants... I see some of the most experienced growers out there doing the same thing occasionally myself included..always start off with light nutrients and work your way up taking into account what you put in the soil as far as organics because they don't break down overnight it takes months sometimes for them to generate nutrients and when they start generating nutrients and you're adding synthetic nutrients on top of that....Boom... An issue pops up... And then there are some plants that you can throw just about anything on them and they will just keep growing without a hitch... And some like one of my ladies right now even sees a bottle of Cal mag and she gives me her middle finger... Life is a learning process at all ages... Maybe someone like @Aquaman could give you better detail. .. just keep in mind that the site advisors have answered the same question eight different ways to countless people and it might take a little time for them to get back at you.. just browse around kill a few hours reading
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Thanks I'll def keep all that in mind. I've tried not to post a thread that someone else has already done but I'm pretty sure that's hard to do since when I search something it'll show like page 1 of 140 lol but yes I have been going into the different forums and grow diaries checking things out
 
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