those ones that say 1500grams per meter are very suspect. The guy should know that if he is growing these clones. Seems like he doesnt know his product.

Also, the pictures he provides are the pictures off that BC website we have been laughing at for a long time now. I can see 400-500grams per meter, but 3 times that is ridicules. if a pound is about 454grams, then this guy is saying about 3 pounds per 3x3foot space. Id love too see that from a flat garden!! Maybe he runs those ones in an under current! lolz.

The real reason:
http://milehighmike.com/rmmpricing.html

BUY MY OVERPRICED SHIT! NOW!!!

"The Mile High Method", a.k.a. rDWC w/o chiller, a.k.a. Big Tokes' Bio Buckets w/o beneficial bacteria, a.k.a. another scam.

yeah, its 49$ for you to go to a class for him to teach you how to run a dwc. im sure he gets you for more than 49 bux before you leave his place tho.

Im not down for the sales pitch, especially when the person doesnt know what they are talking about.

sorry for the altitude I.D. thats why I said "I think". Rednick seems to be up on the know. it is Deep Water Culture. I know his website Pics are Big Bud and its true that my Medi Bud and Big Bud didn't go as anticipated but other strains out performed my expectations and made up for it. I don't really care if my first post looked shady I just hate to see people bashing without all the facts and first hand experience. Its kind of like arm chair quarterbacks.The class was very simple and straight forward and if one person here had sat through one you would hear lots of disclaimers saying Mike doesn't agree with the seed vendors claims. one last thing, it when dickheads get all preachy and attack the newbs is the beginning of the end for a forum. trust me I have lots of first hand experience watching the high and mighty dismantle a great site by flaunting their experience and making it a sausage contest. these are the things that stop people from joining in and making the site better.you guys should prolly spend a little more time in your garden or medicating instead of bashing. Peace..........

if he "disclaims" the seed vendor claims, why is he still spouting the 1500 g bull shit? dont think they are attacking newbs, just dicks that take bc production strains, doesnt back up the target yield, and charges 50 for somthing that could be researched online in one day. not saying all medi strains are low yielding, but ones for the stash never produce like the commercial bull strains this guy is pushing, all qp plus per plant. IMO he seems to be scraping the lower technologically inclined and green informed from the barrel and charging a shit ton to set up a mediocre grow with comercial production yields and not worrying about quality.

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sorry for the altitude I.D. thats why I said "I think". Rednick seems to be up on the know. it is Deep Water Culture. I know his website Pics are Big Bud and its true that my Medi Bud and Big Bud didn't go as anticipated but other strains out performed my expectations and made up for it. I don't really care if my first post looked shady I just hate to see people bashing without all the facts and first hand experience. Its kind of like arm chair quarterbacks.The class was very simple and straight forward and if one person here had sat through one you would hear lots of disclaimers saying Mike doesn't agree with the seed vendors claims. one last thing, it when dickheads get all preachy and attack the newbs is the beginning of the end for a forum. trust me I have lots of first hand experience watching the high and mighty dismantle a great site by flaunting their experience and making it a sausage contest. these are the things that stop people from joining in and making the site better.you guys should prolly spend a little more time in your garden or medicating instead of bashing. Peace..........

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I understand that there is a chance you aren't Mike and/or one of his cronies... sure there is a chance of this. BUT, as you pointed out, it is slightly suspect considering the way you went about it. Still is suspect... but that's not your fault right?


But yeah, many of us are highly suspect of the majority of the claims that varying hydro companies, MMC's & everyone else makes... mostly because we are trained to have this response in light of the mounds of BS that gets shoveled around this industry. AND, his claims fall right in line with all the rest of the claims... right in line, fits like a glove, heard it all before.

This is all based on 'experience' which you might have, but clearly not as much as the rest here... remember, we've all heard this load of BS many times over. Haven't you?

And yes, I can take a room full of people, show em a clean/unused aero system, show em all the bells and whistles, show em a shit ton of seemingly bad-ass pics, show em all how very easy it will be to use the 'best' system ever conceived of to get the most out of any plant alive, and take down massive 1500g/m^2... over 3 lbs mind you... of the super bomb dank delight... and you will all want to suck my golden dick. The aero is the bomb & you can all see from the 1 hour tutorial that it indeed IS.

Everyone leaves all excited & ready to break the market with their super crop of the super dankness... all other will bow down to your superior methods!

Sound familiar. This is all a bunch of crap designed to take advantage of the 90% of the people that fail out of the gate & never take it back up... the meat & potatoes of the hydro industry... ask one the hydro dudes that tell the truth... if you can find one... but they will tell you this simple fact of growing life... been that way for decades now.

From our experience, this has all happened before, and will happen again.

BoCo Buds said:

"this has all happened before, and will happen again."

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Could you be the 'Architecht' from the Matrix???
:worried

well you can trust I will keep everyone informed on my elephant bud and euphoria progress.now that you guys are settling down I may stick around here and even do a journal of progress. I was originally pointing out that Mike is a good guy serving the Newb market. When I got back into the game I didn't know about all the MMJ forums and it was nice to spend 49 bucks to get pointed in the right direction. Next for me is getting a good recipe for an organic soil(sunshine mix) mix and organic feed charts. gotta keep evolving ya know.

mysterious said:

well you can trust I will keep everyone informed on my elephant bud and euphoria progress.now that you guys are settling down I may stick around here and even do a journal of progress. I was originally pointing out that Mike is a good guy serving the Newb market. When I got back into the game I didn't know about all the MMJ forums and it was nice to spend 49 bucks to get pointed in the right direction. Next for me is getting a good recipe for an organic soil(sunshine mix) mix and organic feed charts. gotta keep evolving ya know.

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49$ and I'll pass along the recipes.

:)


I kid.


That was too easy though.


Stick around. Nice folks here.

RMCG said:

Stick around. Nice folks here.

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He doesn't speak for all of us.
Now stop defending somebody, and let us get back to bashing and whipping our dicks out!

Rednick said:

He doesn't speak for all of us.
Now stop defending somebody, and let us get back to bashing and whipping our dicks out!

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Hahaha. True.

:)

If I could chime in on the classes.
I have no use for them I could teach them.
I also have a friend who is trying to grow in another state and he will not research. He will call me. Hearing it from someone registers to some people when trying to do random research over a complex topic is beyond them. The availability of something like this probably increases the long term success of some who might give up due to needless failure. I have a local fellow patient that is willing to split his crop with me just so he can remain blissfully ignorant and not spend the countless research hours I have accrued. I checked out the website and it didn't seem to me that $12-15 for a clone is gouging. Just my $.02 worth but I'm a really old man so $.04

Rednick said:

He doesn't speak for all of us.
Now stop defending somebody, and let us get back to bashing and whipping our dicks out!

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That's golden, remember... ;-)

Toker Ace said:

If I could chime in on the classes.
I have no use for them I could teach them.
I also have a friend who is trying to grow in another state and he will not research. He will call me. Hearing it from someone registers to some people when trying to do random research over a complex topic is beyond them. The availability of something like this probably increases the long term success of some who might give up due to needless failure. I have a local fellow patient that is willing to split his crop with me just so he can remain blissfully ignorant and not spend the countless research hours I have accrued. I checked out the website and it didn't seem to me that $12-15 for a clone is gouging. Just my $.02 worth but I'm a really old man so $.04

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Now this sounds sane & reasonable to me. It's the misleading of people for profit that bothers me in particular.

Might come off as a little harsh, but crap is crap. Helping someone out in earnest, now that's really golden.

For a true mentor/teacher that sticks it out & feels accountable, then yes, fair is fair, but otherwise...???

RMCG said:

49$ and I'll pass along the recipes.

:)


I kid.


That was too easy though.


Stick around. Nice folks here.

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Finally!!!!! somebody with a good sense of humor :D
how bout some soil recipes:harvest:

mysterious said:

Finally!!!!! somebody with a good sense of humor :D
how bout some soil recipes:harvest:

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For retards that can't mix two water solutions together, you can always just use Subcool's super soil mix. Easy to make, highly ammended soil, just add water, but here is the tricky part. You patient will have to learn to give it only enough water to fill the bucket, hence they will have to use the weight test (actually physically lift the bucket). If they keep getting a lot of runoff, they will leach out all of the ammendments in the soil.

Of course that is the fallacy with this method. You patient has to actually monitor how much water he is putting in AND lift the bucket...
Too hard for many people in my experience.

ouch??!!!