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Thanks for the insight. Iwill be posting pics as soon as i get off work well at lights on 9p.m.. thanks sativied, so as you explained that plants can show sati traits, am i correct in assuming this can go the other way also. As in showing indica traits that differ from mom, sisters.When you clone a plant you copy the genotypes, not the phenotypes. Phenotype is the expressed trait of a genotype influenced by the environment. A mutation implies a genetics alteration, i.e. changed genotypes which don't have to occur for a phenotype to express differently. Getting a more/less sativa-dom pheno from the same mother plant is certainly possible. Less likely when they all are given the same environment and treatment, but clones merely start out with the same genes, doesn't mean they grow out to be identical.
Pics are always a plus :)
I only have one mom one strain at this time.I'm subbed, so I hope you continue this thread.
Sounds interesting.
I want to see flowers.
Have you ruled out user error?
Cuts can get mixed up.
I actually kept this mom alive for a year in a half under supp light. 2 t5 to be exact. This was the first session of clones i took after pulling her out of retirment.Yes, it's happened to me. In fact, I've got some Chem '91 x Pacifica cuts in my GH that have been under supplemental light. Two of them are in full flower with lots of little bitty stacked buds. I was *trying* to keep them in veg!
When you clone a plant you copy the genotypes, not the phenotypes. Phenotype is the expressed trait of a genotype influenced by the environment. A mutation implies a genetics alteration, i.e. changed genotypes which don't have to occur for a phenotype to express differently. Getting a more/less sativa-dom pheno from the same mother plant is certainly possible. Less likely when they all are given the same environment and treatment, but clones merely start out with the same genes, doesn't mean they grow out to be identical.
Pics are always a plus :)
Were they taken from the same areas of the plant as well? I've noticed that when I take cuts from different heights I'll see different phenos.Thanks for the insight. Iwill be posting pics as soon as i get off work well at lights on 9p.m.. thanks sativied, so as you explained that plants can show sati traits, am i correct in assuming this can go the other way also. As in showing indica traits that differ from mom, sisters.
If this is the case then will finishing time and yeilds be affected.
Also all these were taken at the same time , in the same dome, transplanted at the same time, fed the same reg until i seen that she did not like the 1200 ppm that i was giving everyone else.
So i dialed it down a bit.
Thanks again
happy farmin;)
Thanks... its not so much that im worried,you state this "Many plant experience a morphological change with leaf shape during flower" as i stated above this is not something that happened only after flowering this has been going on since she rooted, oh well over 3 months ago. I veg pictures if you wanna see them. The plant does not seem any more brittle then its counter parts.they look the same to me. Many plant experience a morphological change with leaf shape during flower, casue many to produce smaller , thinner leaves. I have seen far worse/better examples of this happening. I have also seen plants when under low light and high feed regiment do a strange change. THe plants become more brittle and the leaf shape and form go completely uniform regardless of genetic variety.
Who is everything else, I know its early, aroma stretch vigor? Nothing to worry about imo.
Peace
Ahha i never thought if that i wanna say that i gave her a hair cut and they were all from new growth but i was also thining a bit. this could have been one of the little guys i thought wasnt gonna make it, from older growth and only one node under. Interesting thought. is this tried and true sea? Or just a hunch?Were they taken from the same areas of the plant as well? I've noticed that when I take cuts from different heights I'll see different phenos.
I would expect it to produce the same leaves and buds eventually.Or is it possible for it to just revert back to normal after cloning. Seeing as how the transformation occured during that process.
Was recently reading a post from DJ Short about getting sativa phenos to show by using a veg schedule that's closer to our typical flower schedule, and wondered how much of that same thing happens when you switch to flowering. It's very obvious in a cross I'm working on, some start with sativa-dom, some with wider more indica dom leaflets, but once I started flowering, they all end up looking clearly sativa-dom.Many plant experience a morphological change with leaf shape during flower, casue many to produce smaller , thinner leaves.
In my approach to indoor growing I see change in fans in veg compared to new fans in flower , but the fans starting in veg carry it over to flower without me noticing change.I would expect it to produce the same leaves and buds eventually.
Was recently reading a post from DJ Short about getting sativa phenos to show by using a veg schedule that's closer to our typical flower schedule, and wondered how much of that same thing happens when you switch to flowering. It's very obvious in a cross I'm working on, some start with sativa-dom, some with wider more indica dom leaflets, but once I started flowering, they all end up looking clearly sativa-dom.
Actually, although mine are from different seed and not clone, I had one that looked very much like the one in the center of the following of straincreation's pics. I called it the "ugly" one because of that leaf shape, but by now she looks like the other more sativa dom plants. I'll take and post some pics later.
And @Seamaiden brings up a good point, if I would have cloned that plant early and used one of the main branches the clone would look like a different strain than a clone from a later cutting higher up.
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