MPB's are takin over. Bossman converting.

BOSSMAN88188 · Mar 28, 2010

easypleasie said:
What's your co2 ppms at?

I had them set for 1200 but I dropped it today to 750.

mrdizzle said:
I woulndt conclude its the PPM just yet. I have had my bubba's at 1400ppm most of the grow and they are as lush as I could ever imagen. I know the PK can take alot of nutes too
That looks like some lumen shock and possibly over watering. Thats a 8x8 cube, holds a ton of water. Hopefully they turn around for ya

Lost said:
That brings up a good point. Can you kill the top feed?

DD runs his 24. So I have been also. But I cut the flow rate way down today.

JACKMAYOFFER said:
Hey BOSSMAN thats exacatly the way my plants looked two rounds ago when they went into lumen shock, I was scared shitless this round and started out with 4 lights on the lowest setting 4 ft above the plants then every day I lowered just a little. 7 days have passed and tommorow I will lower them where they should be. If I rember correct you where vegging under t5's or t8's ? Thats a huge shock when you put the under HPS I would start with 1 light on way above..I have found it is really hard to turn a plant around once there lumen shocked. Let me know if there is any thing I can help you with ..JACK

They had a T5 behind them were I keep the freshly rooted clones for the first 2 weaks in dirt.
But they had a 1000 watt hitting them and by the last 5 day's it whas only 8 inches above them.
I did start off with the lights way to low in the new room.
Did you'res ever bounce back or should I start some new girls.

Thanks again to all you peep's. I think they should be ok with all youre help.

JACKMAYOFFER · Mar 28, 2010

BOSSMAN88188 said:
I had them set for 1200 but I dropped it today to 750.

DD runs his 24. So I have been also. But I cut the flow rate way down today.

They had a T5 behind them were I keep the freshly rooted clones for the first 2 weaks in dirt.
But they had a 1000 watt hitting them and by the last 5 day's it whas only 8 inches above them.
I did start off with the lights way to low in the new room.
Did you'res ever bounce back or should I start some new girls.

Thanks again to all you peep's. I think they should be ok with all youre help.

I wouldnt start over just yet.. (Mine never bounced back )Im not an expert by any means on DD'S set up but I would follow his nute scheulde, I think that 650 to 700 ppm sounds alot better then a 1000 for the first week..JACK

mcattak · Mar 29, 2010

mrdizzle said:
I woulndt conclude its the PPM just yet. I have had my bubba's at 1400ppm most of the grow and they are as lush as I could ever imagen. I know the PK can take alot of nutes too

That looks like some lumen shock and possibly over watering. Thats a 8x8 cube, holds a ton of water. Hopefully they turn around for ya

My bubbas get 2.0 ec at week 5....

What are your water temps in the buckets not the rez???..
Overwatering = no oxygen

Can you move the drip lines to the outside of the cube...Or like Lost said kill the top feed or put them on a timer...

Make sure the rockwool isnt in the water...

Guess you probably figured out it was lumen shock..They will bounce back with patience...

I do find if I try to supercharge the air to much to early they freak..Backing off to 750 is a good idea..

mc

mrdizzle · Mar 31, 2010

hows the ladies

mello · Mar 31, 2010

they look very much the way mine looked when i was overwatering... how are your roots looking?

mcattak · Mar 31, 2010

How are they doing...

BOSSMAN88188 · Mar 31, 2010

Thank's again everyone.
They are gunna make it. They started to perk up last night when lights came on at 6.
Here are some pics from my 10pm folior feeding.
A couple times a day I have been turning off the HID and running some flouros. And hitting them with Blue mountain organic folior harmony.

I need to get the cages put up and the fan's raised.
They are growing and I want to have root's in the tub's before I flip them.

PPM 1000
PH 6.0
Temp 77 at plant level 81 at ceiling.
Humidity 35% to 40%.
Co2 750ppm
Lights 18 hrs.
Rez temps holding at 65 and 67 in mini rez's.

BOSSMAN88188 · Mar 31, 2010

I got my gun back the same day as court.

Pic1 The wife's New model black hawk 45 long colt.

Pic2 My little girl. New model super black hawk 44 mag.
10.5 inch barrel.

Pic3 the 2 together.

Give me a couple minutes there was something in the pics I need to block out. my bad.

Yeah Court went real well. He showed up in dirty jeans and a dirty sweatshirt. And I looked better then all the lawyer's in the room.:D:D

TyKaycha · Mar 31, 2010

BOSSMAN88188 said:
I got my gun back the same day as court....

Glad court went well!

mrdizzle · Mar 31, 2010

they look good dude. DID you cut back the top feed? I have a feeling they were just too wet in those big cubes, once they are big and drink a ton of water it wont be a problem

BOSSMAN88188 · Mar 31, 2010

Yeah bro.
I noticed the 6x6 I measured. LOL were turning brown in some spot's they were the same color as the nute's. So I cut them off for a whole 12 hrs. Now I have them on a timer going on for 15 minutes every 3 hrs.

Lost · Mar 31, 2010

Yea!!! Girls look good :)

Glad you got your stuff back. No one should have their shit taken like that for b.s..

easypleasie · Mar 31, 2010

Good news all around for ya, bro! Girls definitely looking better now...you can see the green coming back in.

bakershredhead · Mar 31, 2010

lumen shock

Yo Bossman look like there coming back. I did what jackmayoffer did also my first round. I shocked the hell out of my ladies and had to start over. Smaller plants without larger root systems can't handle that amount of light right away. I learned better to start a little slower and then when they start reaching for the light you can turn on all the lights and then lower as needed.

mcattak · Mar 31, 2010

Exhale...You will sleep good tonight....

Coxie · Apr 2, 2010

Hello Bossman!

BOSSMAN88188 said:
What up peep's.
I will answer responses later. I am totally lagging my arse off today.
I havent even tended the girls yet. And I usually start in there at 7am.
But uploading a vid always takes a bit o time. Atleast it takes me awhile. With a little help from GDP.
I just wanted to get this vid posted. It was taken on the 24th.
[youtube]7jERtexNA8A[/youtube]

Your setup looks great! Nice and clean. Hope the young ladies are continuing to blow up! A question I had for you, and for that matter anyone else out there in DDS land, concerns the use of AN carboload. I know that doubled listed it as part of his mix on a post 8-10 months ago, and I'm certainly fired-up about doing anything I can to sweeten the final product... Thanks again for yours and everyone's input!

doubleds · Apr 2, 2010

BOSSMAN88188 said:
So this is what is goin on.
They perk up for about 8 hrs a day give or take.
But they are not growing much or at all really.
And copper patches showing up.

My system holds a total of 130 gallon's. I filled with RO water. Then added.
5 cups each Sensi A & B.
1 cup Multizym
1 cup Algen.
1\2 cup Root excelerater (I will join the H&G boycott as these bottles epmty we gotta support each other).
PPM 1200, PH 5.8.
They had been getting 950 in the veg room.
The PH drifts to 6. And I readjust it.
This I stopped doing today and just left it at 6.
So today I drained about 20 gallons from the system and topped it off with RO water . And 1 cup of Cal\Mag.
When I was done the PPM 1150 and PH 6.0.
The rez temps are holding very well at 65.
The room gets 80 max during light on.
It is sealed with Co2. Humidity reads 35.
The rockwool is staying nice and wet with the dripper on 24 hrs.

Am I just dorkin out and it is a small cal\mag dif. Along with some lumen shock?:mysterymachine:

TIA

couple things bro, lumen shock for sure but i think you over did it with the h&g additives as well. If you were feeding 1000 ppm's with these nute addy's then your also extremely overfeeding. Cut the hg addy's down to 250 ml of roots, 250 ml of algen and 250 ml of zymes. Stay with the low feed of 700 - 750 ppms. with the hng addys its like giving them 1500 ppms. you will never get above 1000 ppms until week 4 when you stop using hg.
(boycott is not for the states man, only canada).

h and g nutes claim to fame and why there products work good is the amount of iron in them. This promotes heavy root growth but..... also makes 50% more nutes available to the plants. Therefore when you feed at 700 ppm its really like feeding at 1200. Back off the nutes, 24/7 dripper directly on cube(very important) and if you are going to have room to get around and be able to raise and lower your fans then its a great idea to install a 2nd set of brackets for your fans and move them when needed.

It looks like they are coming back well bro, cant wait to see how you do. The best run on a pk for me so far is 2.5 pounds but she was overfed. In the same system as the g13 and she didnt like the higher nutes later on that the g does.

It took me 5 grows starting from 8oz pk to 2.5 pounds.
Really pay attention if this is the strain you r going to stick with, write down your thoughts once a week so you have somthing to go back to read next time. I cant stress this enough.

all my best

dds

TyKaycha · Apr 2, 2010

DDS brings up a good point. I think too many people jump from strain to strain... Better to find one you like to enjoy, then learn how to grow the hell outta it! Journaling is helpful as people can give you pointers but even keeping track at home is going to help you a ton on your next run.

BOSSMAN88188 · Apr 2, 2010

Lost said:
Yea!!! Girls look good :)

Glad you got your stuff back. No one should have their shit taken like that for b.s..

Thanx bro,
They are perky but the colors still are not coming back fast enough. They started drinking finally the rez went down about 25 gallons in the last 48 hrs.:character0110:

easypleasie said:
Good news all around for ya, bro! Girls definitely looking better now...you can see the green coming back in.

Much thanx easy,
Been dropping the light slowly again.Today about 5 hrs before light's out I dropped them again. That way they will get some rest after a good increase light intensity.
I am probably over thinking it.:rasta:

bakershredhead said:
Yo Bossman look like there coming back. I did what jackmayoffer did also my first round. I shocked the hell out of my ladies and had to start over. Smaller plants without larger root systems can't handle that amount of light right away. I learned better to start a little slower and then when they start reaching for the light you can turn on all the lights and then lower as needed.

I thought I was gunna be OK since I had 1000watt 8 inches above them before they went in the new room.:mad0233:

LMAO Thanx bro I will do it the right way next time.
I noticed how high jack started off with his lights in this setup and will do the same next time.

mcattak said:
Exhale...You will sleep good tonight....

Coxie said:
Your setup looks great! Nice and clean. Hope the young ladies are continuing to blow up! A question I had for you, and for that matter anyone else out there in DDS land, concerns the use of AN carboload. I know that doubled listed it as part of his mix on a post 8-10 months ago, and I'm certainly fired-up about doing anything I can to sweeten the final product... Thanks again for yours and everyone's input!

Thanx Coxie.
And that is a great ?. I use it in my dirt room.
I will re ask hopefully we can get a good answer.

doubleds said:
couple things bro, lumen shock for sure but i think you over did it with the h&g additives as well. If you were feeding 1000 ppm's with these nute addy's then your also extremely overfeeding. Cut the hg addy's down to 250 ml of roots, 250 ml of algen and 250 ml of zymes. Stay with the low feed of 700 - 750 ppms. with the hng addys its like giving them 1500 ppms. you will never get above 1000 ppms until week 4 when you stop using hg.
(boycott is not for the states man, only canada).

h and g nutes claim to fame and why there products work good is the amount of iron in them. This promotes heavy root growth but..... also makes 50% more nutes available to the plants. Therefore when you feed at 700 ppm its really like feeding at 1200. Back off the nutes, 24/7 dripper directly on cube(very important) and if you are going to have room to get around and be able to raise and lower your fans then its a great idea to install a 2nd set of brackets for your fans and move them when needed.

It looks like they are coming back well bro, cant wait to see how you do. The best run on a pk for me so far is 2.5 pounds but she was overfed. In the same system as the g13 and she didnt like the higher nutes later on that the g does.

It took me 5 grows starting from 8oz pk to 2.5 pounds.
Really pay attention if this is the strain you r going to stick with, write down your thoughts once a week so you have somthing to go back to read next time. I cant stress this enough.

all my best

dds

Thank you DD.
All advice will be utilized.
Brackets for the fan's are on order.
Glad to back off the H&G addys. Those are expensive.:whew
I am probably only going to run this strain once.
A really cool peep on here scored some of you're beans.
So if I get a cutting from him. That will be what I take the time to dial in.

TyKaycha said:
DDS brings up a good point. I think too many people jump from strain to strain... Better to find one you like to enjoy, then learn how to grow the hell outta it! Journaling is helpful as people can give you pointers but even keeping track at home is going to help you a ton on your next run.

The strain jumping and mixing strains in same rez is I think one mistake a lot a peep's make.
I have way too many strain's I am growing in my dirt room. And they all like something different.
I could not imagine trying to dial in a rez with different strain's.

Thanx again all.
I will take some pics at lights out.

Crysmatic · Apr 2, 2010

1kw bulbs are cheaper per watt, are equidistant on the floor plan, and yield more than 600w. on a 12 plant/13 light layout, and the perimeter plants get 3 kw, while the inside plants get 4 kw. if you use (5) 600w in the middle, then all the plants get 2.6-2.8 kw. is there a good reason you'd want to evenly light the plants, aside from even growth?

I put an extra row of plants to use the end lights better. the 10 plant layout only uses 45* of the two corner bulbs. also canadian medmar laws allow 6 plants per patient (my personal concern).

X=1kw
x=600w
O=plant

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