My First Grow!! Newb Needs Help!!

Capulator · Sep 1, 2013

Thelbsnowman said:
Unfortunately Capulator my temps range between 90-100 still but i have my humidity up to 30-40%. It's way too hot here in the summer time, and I'm renting so i don't want to put the time and demo into a rented space. ill let these ladies finish maturing, and by then it will be fall/winter and I know it will be more suited for growing. i'm not going soil next grow, instead i'm going to use a hydro system and fill the tent with the clones i get from this grow. i'm already in flowering so i cant get clones until i start to harvest. Still trying to get my neuts, and watering down. Might by a hood/reflector cause i already have a 1k bulb. Depends on how much cash i have available to me.

Your RH (humidity) shoudl be above 85% with temps that high brother. You are gonna see all kinds of problems with that heat so don't stress it and when fall comes and it gets cooler you will be better off.

Capulator · Sep 1, 2013

Thelbsnowman said:
Unfortunately Capulator my temps range between 90-100 still but i have my humidity up to 30-40%. It's way too hot here in the summer time, and I'm renting so i don't want to put the time and demo into a rented space. ill let these ladies finish maturing, and by then it will be fall/winter and I know it will be more suited for growing. i'm not going soil next grow, instead i'm going to use a hydro system and fill the tent with the clones i get from this grow. i'm already in flowering so i cant get clones until i start to harvest. Still trying to get my neuts, and watering down. Might by a hood/reflector cause i already have a 1k bulb. Depends on how much cash i have available to me.

A 1ooow light is going to be very hot and you will need to have your temps in check before running one, even in the fall that 1k will heat up that tent bro.

Thelbsnowman · Sep 1, 2013

So then a 600 would do better. Ok so even if I had the correct fans plugged into the hood the 1k would still be too hot? Plus doesn't mold start to grow above 80-85% RH?

Thelbsnowman · Sep 7, 2013

so i just found an earthworm in my soil...is that bad?o_O

max rez · Sep 8, 2013

1. earthworms and their poop is great for the soil
2. depending on the strain, you may be ok with 95-100 deg f. unfortunately, few strains will withstand those temps.
3. to raise your RH try putting a few soaking wet towels inside the tent. this tends to raise RH fast, and more effective than containers.
4. You can take cuttings for clones at any time of the growth cycle, maybe start a bunch o' clones if things dont look good.

Thelbsnowman · Sep 9, 2013

Thanks you max Rez for the information!!! I put a wet towel in this morning so we will see what happens. All I have for clones are the fan leaves. Everything else has flowers :). I do not know the strain unfortunately; all the tips are yellow and the ends of my leaves are bent down. Maybe heat stress?? Just made some seabird tea with 20% Ca so we will see what happens in the next couple if day. I will be posting pictures this week.

SuperSilverHaze · Sep 9, 2013

forget about the 1k for now as 600 is pushing it for your small space. too much light and you can get light bleaching.

i made many of the novice decisions that lead me to listen to those who have been there done that. first thing was get my environmental condition in check......temp min/max, air exchange, rh. i quit dwc/hydro due to res temps too high in the summer and not wanting to invest the $$$ to control h2o temps.

i went thru various grow mediums and nutrients before i settled growing in 100% coco (cocout husks) using dry ferts, gh maxibloom @ 7gm/gal tap h20 and feeding once daily. i use this on fully rooted clones to flower w/good results.

here is a pollen chuck feed w/maxibloom from veg to chop.

DieselDuds · Sep 9, 2013

It says 2004 on photos

Thelbsnowman · Sep 10, 2013

Supersilverhaze your women look amazing. I actually have 2 bags of maxi grow and next paycheck I was going to get maxi bloom! And that was 7 grams a gallon? How big we're your pots and how much water did you use? You also mentioned temps too high in your water, so what is the optimum range for a dwc system? It is the end of summer and temps will drop out here. Thanks again for all of your information! I added two towels when the lights turned on and it dropped my temps down 10 degrees F before I wet to bed and was hovering around 40% humidity. Thanks again for the tip Max Rez:)

max rez · Sep 10, 2013

ur quite welcome! ur flowers are looking pretty good though... the yellowing at the very tip prob from the heat and I wouldnt worry or try to over-correct things too much : ) happy harvest!

Thelbsnowman · Sep 10, 2013

So I checked on my girls this morning after I woke up for work and 82 degrees F with 48+ RH. I soaked two towels again and wrapped them around my pot so the fan blows on them drastically cooling the room.

SuperSilverHaze · Sep 10, 2013

just dug out an old camera and wasnt worried about the date. funny thing is i didnt start growing until late 2008-09.

when i tried dwc i struggled keepig temps 70f or below. i was putting frozed h2o bottles in rez multiple times per day. i was so new i thought it good to put extreme sativa leanig bag seed in same dwc res as extreme indica dom bagseed......boy what a lesson. plus i had a 400w in small wardrobe that wouldnt shut due to hood. 95 f temps, light leaks like crazy and no carbon filter growing in fla.

well i moved on to soil and now 100% coco flowering in 1 gal, sometimes larger for moms, and i feed once a day dtw (drain to waste) and the above grow was 1 small scoop of dry mb per 1 gal of tap h2o phd to 5.8. i let my ph drift a bit too so no precision on the scoop of mb or ph down.

rez temps are a non-issue now and i dont see me going back to hydro.......once i automate my feeding ill feed 3-5 times per day and the growth rate will increase close to hydro but w/o the potential for your hydro grow to go south overnight.

goodluck

SuperSilverHaze · Sep 10, 2013

i will use a very small ammt of maxi grow in addition to mb if a strain likes N and it helps them get thru stretch once flipped so i feed in veg several days before flip.

since that grow i also started using gh liquid koolbloom in week 3-5 and dry kb @ 1/2 scoop for 4 days prior to flush.

the liquid kb im experimenting w/it at 1-4 ml per gal base nutes.

anyway, hope that helps.

max rez · Sep 11, 2013

..82 degrees F with 48+ RH... Thelbsnowman,

also make sure your thermometer is not near any heat source that might be giving you a false reading. In shade is definitely where the thermometer( or sensor) needs to be to get an accurate ambient temp reading.

but like i said, those flowers look nice, and the very very tips that are yellow or dry shouldn't be an issue

Thelbsnowman · Sep 11, 2013

The thermometer is about 3-4 feet away from the led. I never know where to place it. Heat rises so that will give me the temps of the heat escaping and too low will just have the fan blowing on it. I would say its about 3 feet off the ground?? I made some seabird guano tea with super thrive 3 days ago, can I add the maxi bloom powder to it or just finish the bucket and make a new batch with maxi?

SuperSilverHaze · Sep 11, 2013

your mixing seabird guao (organic ammendment) and maxi which is a salt fert and ive always read that the 2 are accomplishing the same thing but in different ways.

not specifically sb guano and mb but the approach to organic gardening vs salt ferts. i attempted organic ammended soil using peruvian seabirg guano and bat guano. i never got the hang of re-amending my used soil b/c i changed to coco.

from what i recall in true Organic gardening the aim is to build a quality microbial population as this micro life will give the plant N, P, K, Ca, Mg, Fe and so on and in return the plant provides sugar to the micro life. in organic gardening ph is not relevant b/c the plant doesnt uptake the N, P, K, ect. itself, its fed by micro herd.

growing using salt ferts you plant uptakes nutes as long as the ph range is correct for the medium.....soil 6.8, coco & hydro 5.8. a bit of ph drift is good b/c N, P, K, etc. uptake at diff ph range.

im not sure i answered your question as im not sure if/and at what levls of salt fert kills micro life.

i hope those who currently garden organic will chime in.

peace

max rez · Sep 12, 2013

..I never know where to place it. Heat rises so that will give me the temps of the heat escaping and too low will just have the fan blowing on it. I would say its about 3 feet off the ground?? I made some seabird guano tea with super thrive 3 days ago, can I add the maxi bloom powder to it or just finish the bucket and make a new batch with maxi?
Thelbsnowman,

hey snowman, hope all is going well. The best bet is to place the thermometer in a shady area to get a close to accurate temp. If light is hitting it, it could through off the temp reading.

Dont add the maxi bloom to the guano. In general, less is more when feeding. Easy does it. You can easily correct underfeeding but overfeeding will be irreversible. Also, when some combinations of nutes are mixed together, they can actually cancel each other out.
Remember also, OVERFEEDING is the biggest problem, rarely do people underfeed...

Thelbsnowman · Sep 13, 2013

Alright so ill use the rest if this batch then make another. I was thinking Maxi Bloom, super thrive, and supernova. Ph 6ish and what not. Pictures taken and uploading later. I need to start building my aeroponic cloner...

Thelbsnowman · Sep 13, 2013

The new photos!!:)

max rez · Sep 14, 2013

wow! things lookin nice! looks like a heavy sativa leaning strain.

I would cut off some the largest fan leaves to allow better light penetration and bud development.

looks like ur gonna have a nice harvest when its done bro!

is that LED light really 600w? I know some LED's say "equivalent to 600w" but are actually only 300watt

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