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naw not yet. was just using an air stone and 55 gallon drum when i lived in norcal. thought there had to be a better way and found the vortex. i plan on making that small 5 gallon one in the vid i posted for my veggie garden this year. theres some good videos on youtube of it working. my only concern is it could clog irrigation lines unless strained. i might be wrong on that though. anybody have experience with that?
naw not yet. was just using an air stone and 55 gallon drum when i lived in norcal. thought there had to be a better way and found the vortex. i plan on making that small 5 gallon one in the vid i posted for my veggie garden this year. theres some good videos on youtube of it working. my only concern is it could clog irrigation lines unless strained. i might be wrong on that though. anybody have experience with that?
Check out the extended life motor from Keep It Simple. All you hear is the water bubbling, it's virtually silent. If you already have the original system, they'll upgrade your for a good price if you call or email them.
Their design is not a soaker hose, but rather it's pvc piping. This allows it to fit snugly on the bottom of the bucket and also makes cleaning easy. With a soaker hose, it would be quite difficult to remove all the biofilm between brews.
My issue with the vortex brewers is that while they do work, they tend to not have much data to support them. Most manufacturers rely on statements relating to how their changing the molecular quality of the water, rather than actual biological data (and they're typically pretty expensive!)
Thanks for sharing, do you think the tea brewer s worth it? That extended motor pump alone is kind a pricey. $200.00 upgrade..
I know the hydro industry overcharges for same product that can be purchased elsewhere. SO I tend to check into diy first before spending the extra $$.
feel /think that is the case here? Or you feel this is a fairly priced product.
As far as the standard model, I can see if the pump costs 100 alone, then the price is not too bad. But then the long term use they report is not that great.
My issue with the vortex brewers is that while they do work, they tend to not have much data to support them. Most manufacturers rely on statements relating to how their changing the molecular quality of the water, rather than actual biological data (and they're typically pretty expensive!)
The standard pump that comes with the original kit is $65. The extended life pump is $200. The original system was manufactured in China and dates back to when the company was first founded in 2002. For growers like you guys, it wouldn't work/last very long, and yes it is noisy.
The extended life motor is very nice. It's quiet and is rated for 10,000 hours (over 200 brews). Like I mentioned before, if you call or email them, and already have the old system, I'm positive they will give you a significant discount on the upgrade.
You could do-it-yourself, but keep in mind that what you're paying for when you buy a commercial tea brewing system is that they've done the testing for you. If you were try to and do proper testing on your DIY system it would cost hundreds if not thousands more. If you want to get a microscope and dissolved oxygen meter, you could qualitatively test your own system (keep in mind that it just looks like brown water).
Of course, many people don't care if their system is properly tested and are happy to just see how their plants respond. Companies like Keep It Simple, Inc. are looking to maximize and consistently produce biological results that go beyond the average DIY system. Again, you may not need/care about that.
I agree that the hydro industry has some shady practices. I would never buy AN or Humboldt nutrient products for this very reason.
Oh, and the KIS kits that go in the brewer run $8.25/brew, which I think is quite reasonable when compared to what some of the other companies are charging. I think these guys charge something like $80 for their "cartridge!"
Blaze said:I think the statement about them changing the molecular quality of the water is total BS, but the Vortex brewers can work well if built properly. I know someone who built a 35 gal vortex brewer last year and it works great. They've had it tested and the dissolved oxygen level and biological activity were all very good. It cost them around $1000 or so to built it if I recall correctly. When you factor in the time and cost of building a good brewer, simply buying one from a company is a good route to go, especially if that company has already done the testing for you.
well I smelt it and it was earthy, But cutting veg time, Im all ears Buddy talk to me.
CT, whats the Brewer do a Bucket and bubbler doesnt?, Gotta be something?
My foam doesnt show up for at least a day. My veg batch consisted of R/O water, Roots "Organic Trinity" which is a "rhizosphere catalyst" , Some Mollases, And 2 cups of EWC in a net sack. I dont use a ph pen cause it useless with this mx. After a day I add some greatwhite and about 2-4hrs later all hell breaks loose and if Im not around the top will blow off!! I use a large paddle to mix it all up a few times, let it bubble some more, drop a pump and hose in and then I feed my girls.
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