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Ok. And Don peppy I'm not entirely sure if it's the nutes. I'll have a bit letter idea in a couple of day when the cal mag I just fed them has a chance to take effect if the problem persists I'll adjust the nutes. Already using half strength since I have nine plants that's using a half gallon. And yeah I am looking in to ph pens and ppm testers.
 
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Also don't over water. I can see there is no perlite in your coco. Gotta let them dry out a bit. Let the roots search.
 
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I do that for sure thanks for making sure I knew. I was supposed to give them more nutes yesterday but they were still wet. Fed them cal mag and they r getting greener so the burning problem has been solved thx guys for clarifying for me that was the problem
 
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You can feed it all the calmag or N4tg you want but if your PH is way off then the plant will not uptake any nutrients. Get a PH pen and check the PH of the runoff water.
 
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We r waiting for it to arrive. So far I have the pH between 5.2 and 6.2
 
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My ladies r looking beautiful again and r happy:-) I'm glad the response from the cal mag was pretty quick:-)
 

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Well my girls r Almost dry enough for another feeding and the two best of them r far bigger then they were a week ago:) the burning I cleaned up, (aftermath of the cal mag deficiency)
 

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wtf are you talking about?
have fun growing in COCO with noNE specific coco nutrient.
N4TG has waaaaaay too much P for any kind of grow.

The fact that they have 3-5 different feed charts tells you half that shit isnt even needed but grow on, NEWBZ
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You, FLAT OUT, have no idea what you're talking about.

N4TG is one of the MOST ideal nutrient lines to use with Coco, why? It contains, roughly, 6 different sources of Calcium, a micro nutrient which is in high demand when growing in Coco. Yes, any other nutrient line will work in coco, hell, I guarantee I can grow quality herb with 20-20-20 all purpose water solubles but the idea behind N4TG is that it's simple and organic. It will take all the guess work out of which specific nutrient your plant is lacking in because it is complete. Furthermore, it's entirely organic, ran through vats of Ful-Power (Fulvic Acid), pre digesting each fertilizer and making it readily available. You CANNOT burn your plants with this line, it's just not possible. You simply fill your medium with the nutrition and your plants will use what it needs, when it needs it.

I'll admit not all his products are necessary and the best part, SO WILL HE! All that is truly needed to offer a balanced diet is 6 bottles and a pH pen.

Before you post pics of your flowers, understand that the same quality can be achieved using miracle grow. Nutrient is FOURTH on the list of priorities when growing.

And just so everyone knows Scott grows in coco and also produces it. It is quadruple washed (no other company does that) and it's the cleanest coco I've come across.

Yes, I work for Monster Garden's, Yes we promote Scott...Why? He knows his shit, bottom line. Degree in Organic Chemistry and a heavy background in Botany.

If you're having issues with your N4TG check your pH.
 
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wtf are you talking about?
have fun growing in COCO with noNE specific coco nutrient.
N4TG has waaaaaay too much P for any kind of grow.

The fact that they have 3-5 different feed charts tells you half that shit isnt even needed but grow on, NEWBZ
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Nectar For the Gods Organic Nutrients |BASE LINE-…:
Plz do not talk down on which you know nothing about.
these products are not watered down. To be exact they are broken down prior to being packaged by microbes that are created in the factory all natural microbes found in your soil and other places.
So in turn when these microbes thats usally lye in the soil and slowly break these natural compounds down (bat guano, kelp, bone and blood meal etc. Etc.), they have already been intorduced to these things in there facility, thus making them immediately avaliable. Instead of sitting in the soil waiting to be eaten and shitted out by the microbes in your soil then and only then, will they be avaliable for your roots to uptake. Similar to chelated salts but completly different in so many ways. Which would make it ab ideal candidate for organic coco.¿¿ Its ok though you dont expect pure salt growers to care to much about what goes on in the rhizosphere, so much as what the numbers on the meter say, and in coco to top it off.

Plz dont knock things out of ignorance it makes you look bad bro. We are not in a dick mesuring contest here.
To also add why would you be so mad at peopke cause they dont wabt to grow salts. Your telling this kid not to grow organic.
Why cause you grow salts and it works? Is that all your basis is.

Plants lookin better today bud thats good, looks like they took well to that ca boost. As everyone here was saying man your ginna have ca, and some mg def. In coco unless you stay on top of it. But BOL!

I dont grow in pure coco so i dont have much advice, but many of my friends do and
 
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GR33NL3AF said:
You, FLAT OUT, have no idea what you're talking about.

N4TG is one of the MOST ideal nutrient lines to use with Coco, why? It contains, roughly, 6 different sources of Calcium, a micro nutrient which is in high demand when growing in Coco. Yes, any other nutrient line will work in coco, hell, I guarantee I can grow quality herb with 20-20-20 all purpose water solubles but the idea behind N4TG is that it's simple and organic. It will take all the guess work out of which specific nutrient your plant is lacking in because it is complete. Furthermore, it's entirely organic, ran through vats of Ful-Power (Fulvic Acid), pre digesting each fertilizer and making it readily available. You CANNOT burn your plants with this line, it's just not possible. You simply fill your medium with the nutrition and your plants will use what it needs, when it needs it.

I'll admit not all his products are necessary and the best part, SO WILL HE! All that is truly needed to offer a balanced diet is 6 bottles and a pH pen.

Before you post pics of your flowers, understand that the same quality can be achieved using miracle grow. Nutrient is FOURTH on the list of priorities when growing.

And just so everyone knows Scott grows in coco and also produces it. It is quadruple washed (no other company does that) and it's the cleanest coco I've come across.

Yes, I work for Monster Garden's, Yes we promote Scott...Why? He knows his shit, bottom line. Degree in Organic Chemistry and a heavy background in Botany.

If you're having issues with your N4TG check your pH.
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Haha GL is faster on the key board.
 
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Haha GL is faster on the key board.
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Love it Strain! We're on the same page... Thanks for dropping the video!
 
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Love it Strain! We're on the same page... Thanks for dropping the video!
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Hey thanks fellas this line is complete and is amazing. What coco does Scott produce? Curious sounds like some great stuff.
Respect
 
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And the last is his straight coco, no added amendments but it's not on the site yet. I'm using it now, definitely cleaner then Canna, which I ran in beds for close to a year.
@Power OG
 
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Nectar For the Gods Organic Nutrients |BASE LINE-…:
Plz do not talk down on which you know nothing about.
these products are not watered down. To be exact they are broken down prior to being packaged by microbes that are created in the factory all natural microbes found in your soil and other places.
So in turn when these microbes thats usally lye in the soil and slowly break these natural compounds down (bat guano, kelp, bone and blood meal etc. Etc.), they have already been intorduced to these things in there facility, thus making them immediately avaliable. Instead of sitting in the soil waiting to be eaten and shitted out by the microbes in your soil then and only then, will they be avaliable for your roots to uptake. Similar to chelated salts but completly different in so many ways. Which would make it ab ideal candidate for organic coco.¿¿ Its ok though you dont expect pure salt growers to care to much about what goes on in the rhizosphere, so much as what the numbers on the meter say, and in coco to top it off.

Plz dont knock things out of ignorance it makes you look bad bro. We are not in a dick mesuring contest here.
To also add why would you be so mad at peopke cause they dont wabt to grow salts. Your telling this kid not to grow organic.
Why cause you grow salts and it works? Is that all your basis is.

Plants lookin better today bud thats good, looks like they took well to that ca boost. As everyone here was saying man your ginna have ca, and some mg def. In coco unless you stay on top of it. But BOL!

I dont grow in pure coco so i dont have much advice, but many of my friends do and
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Thx for the video and info on the nutes.
 
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I gave my ladies their first drink of full strength nutes. And I'm excited to see what happens:-) almost forgot the cal mag again haha.
 
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..from a chemistry standpoint, if I start with RO water..I need to re-mineralize the water..by adding Calcium/Magnesium first. If I don't add it in first, I risk precipitation (fallout) of the CalMag. So, Cal/Mag comes first when building my nute solution.
 
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Huh. That's interesting. I Dont HAVE A Bunch Of Knowledge on chemistry but I'll have to try that and see if there is a difference. My base water is molasses/worm tea.
 
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well..your base water would actually be whatever you started with before you add molasses and ewc's. If you started with areated tap..the water is mineralized already..and you have less worry for fallout. With RO water..the electroconductivity is much different and needs to be addressed. I started growing with salts and RO water..so my techniques are very much engrained. The thought that you would almost forget Cal/Mag struck me as very odd..lol. The learning curve with organic lines is much less severe. I'm sure you'll be fine...just thought it might help you understand a little better..took me literally years to learn how to "build" nutrient solutions.
 
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I had putting cap mag in first in my head but as I was getting stuff rdy and asked my roomie a question I put all my nftg nutes in and got through a half cup on one of my pants before it struck me I needed to out it in. I added it and gave the plant I was watering the other half cup with the cal mag and watered the rest as well followed by spraying them with bloom khaos. And yeah it is mineralized water. We have it bubbling to get rid of the chlorine in it.
 
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Plus cal mag is a new thing to me when I started learning we used soil so cal mag wasn't needed. We recently started using coco coir. And needed cal mag so it's taking me a little to get used to putting it in.
 
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