Need help ASAP plants in distress

Jaygod · Oct 10, 2021

I don’t know what the issue is this is my first grow please help

Growrx · Oct 10, 2021

Soil Growers:
1. Are you growing from seed or clones?
2. How old are your plants?
3. How tall are your plants?
4. What size containers are they planted in?
5. What is your soil mix?
6. How often do you water and what type of water do you use?
7. What is the pH of your water?
8. What kind of fertilizer do you use and what is its NPK ratio?
9. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything?
10. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights")
11. How close are your lights to the plants?
12. What size is your grow space in square feet?
13. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space?
14. What is the pH of the soil?
15. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space?
16. How much experience do you have growing?

Jaygod · Oct 10, 2021

There clones , they are 25 days old , 16-20 inches tall , there in 5gallon pots, I’m using 60% coco 40% Pete moss to start then I add about 25% of the base substrates weight in worm castings , 2 Tablespoons 4-4-4 1 tablespoons 4-8-4 down to earth dry amendments then I add a good amount of perlite , I water about every 3 or 4 days phed between 5.8 and 6.5 it’s also filtered with a charcoal filter and I add a couple milligrams of A sorbic acid to dechlorinate and aerated for 30 mins , I foliar fed the plants clonex nutrient in the first 2 weeks , I have 2 maxsisun pb4000s in a 5x8 tent , the lights are 32in from the canopy the ppfd is ranging from 400-560 in some places , I have to medium desk fans blowing air and an ax infinity 6in duct fan the humidity stays 44-55 % temps are always 68-76%
There is no insect activity and this is my first grow

Jaygod · Oct 10, 2021

The dry amendment amount is per gallon btw

Jaygod · Oct 10, 2021

The average Dli is 33

strainguy · Oct 10, 2021

I would say magnesium deficiency

Jaygod · Oct 10, 2021

Oh yeah I didn’t give the amount I water I give the plants about half a gallon every 3-4 days or when soil is visibly and physically dry

Jaygod · Oct 10, 2021

And forsure strainguy I’ll definitely look into that

Dirtbag · Oct 10, 2021

This is burn from too hot soil, the dark green indicates too much N and the burning could be from too much of several things combined.
Likely cause is watering too frequently with not enough water when they were a bit younger and the nutrient load in the soil was still quite hot. You should water less frequently, and use a lot more water each time. 2L is nowhere near enough for a 5 gal pot. Should be almost 3x that.

Is this mainly on older leaves? How does the new growth look? From what I can tell in the pics it seems ok.
That soil will become depleted as the grow goes on and could balance itself out to a more healthy and reasonable level of available nutrients. But you need to correct your watering habits

Jaygod · Oct 10, 2021

The New growth is perfect actually everything else is flourishing it’s just these select leaves that are doing this and for sure thank you for the help I’ll definitely change what I’m doing

Dirtbag · Oct 10, 2021

Jaygod said:
The New growth is perfect actually everything else is flourishing it’s just these select leaves that are doing this and for sure thank you for the help I’ll definitely change what I’m doing

Pick those leaves off, they're doing the plant more harm than good. Then it will give you a normal looking plant for which to more easily guage if the symptoms progress. It's a lot easier to notice it spreading if you remove all the damaged growth first.

New growth is what's important. If it looks good, I think you'll be fine. Just water until the media is fully saturated, and you see just the ever so tiniest bit of runoff. You don't actually want much if any runoff with organic, but you do want properly saturated media and proper wet dry cycles.

Jaygod · Oct 10, 2021

definitely I’ll disinfect myself and hop into the grow right now and do that and I get about 5% runoff when I water slowly with just under a gallon

Jaygod · Oct 10, 2021

Just under 5% actually

Growrx · Oct 10, 2021

Jaygod said:
Just under 5% actually

@Dirtbag is the man, very knowledgeable in what he does. I grow hydro so it’s a bit different.

Jaygod · Oct 10, 2021

Definitely boss thank you you all for the help and support!!!! this forum is a gift from god lol

Dirtbag · Oct 10, 2021

Jaygod said:
Just under 5% actually

If that's the case then it sounds like you might be fine. It's hard to say exactly how much water someone else's container will take to saturate so you are the best judge for that. If you get about 5% then you're doing I right, just keep doing what you're doing. It'll grow out of its issue, infact it looks like it already has.

Jaygod · Oct 10, 2021

Do you guys think cal mag is needed when growing with the medium I’m using or should I just hold off and correct my watering habits before implementing anything new in the garden ?

Jaygod · Oct 10, 2021

Dirtbag said:
If that's the case then it sounds like you might be fine. It's hard to say exactly how much water someone else's container will take to saturate so you are the best judge for that. If you get about 5% then you're doing I right, just keep doing what you're doing. It'll grow out of its issue, infact it looks like it already has.

Definitely I actually stopped watering that much because I’m stupid and thought I was overdoing it but I’ll go back to that method , you have relieved a lot of stress my dude cheers to you

Dirtbag · Oct 10, 2021

Jaygod said:
Do you guys think cal mag is needed when growing with the medium I’m using or should I just hold off and correct my watering habits before implementing anything new in the garden ?

Calmag is not needed. Especially if you are using tap water.
It's rare to see a Ca deficiency in an organic mix like that, but I would only recommend supplementing CA if your water ppm is below 100 or you start noticing signs of Ca- like brown speckled spots and pale new growth similar to an N deficiency, except it will appear on new growth where N deficiency appears on older growth first..

Jaygod · Oct 10, 2021

Dirtbag said:
Calmag is not needed. Especially if you are using tap water.
It's rare to see a Ca deficiency in an organic mix like that, but I would only recommend supplementing CA if your water ppm is below 100 or you start noticing signs of Ca- like brown speckled spots and pale new growth similar to an N deficiency, except it will appear on new growth where N deficiency appears on older growth first..

Definitely I’ll keep a close eye on everything, if symptoms Progresses what steps should I take to remedy the problem and I really appreciate you taking time out of your day to help me out

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