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It’s bc not sep, cal mag,
The leaf tips are curling upwards, heat light stress. Turn down your light I never veg above 40% output and make sure it’s 30 in above canopy.
If you look at the leaves that have the most damage you’ll notice that they’re the most exposed leaves on the plant. They didn’t have any shade so and there’s some older growth too, which makes me even more susceptible now if you take a look at some of the other leaves are just starting to show a little bit of the stress on the very edge of each leaf. You can see that it’s all starting to brown all the way around the leaf and not just the tips heat or proximity or combination of both what is your temp and rh average.
Please don’t go tossing a bunch of supplements at this.
The plants are otherwise very healthy and look great. Don’t need to overcorrect.
Here’s some pics of my flower room and my veg space take note of the distance between the canopy and my plants. I never move my lights. I just messed with the output percentages with these LEDs. They’re crazy, powerful, and on top of that there’s no difference between running a 1000 W light and a 7000 W light. It’s just the amount of plants that the light can actually grow. That is the difference.
 

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Looks like cal mag deficiency at first glance. Anytime you see something you can't pinpoint I would recommend you flush and feed. It's literally a cure all for anything but pests and environment.
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He hasn't given any info guy! How can you make recommendations with no varible input...lol
 
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He hasn't given any info guy! How can you make recommendations with no varible input...lol
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Flushing is baaaad in soil.


and sometimes you don’t need a mountain of info to see what the deal is.
I read plants like a book.
but it doesn’t hurt to have the pertinent info.
 
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So I will say. I stopped using my nuts and have been using just plain water last few feedings. I believe every other feeding I added calmag but nothing else and phd down to 6.5ish. Also my tent has never been above 84f and the lowest I’ve ever seen is 66f but it’s dialed now and stays at like 75f most all times. Could use more air in tent for circulation I do admit.
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You still have yet to prove soil ph dude! Lol

No input given on anything...no numbers..nothing..Can't give advice BASED on pictures and little to no info


Soil ph, temps, soil you're using, feed frequency the whole nine yards....soil temp tv's from drainage, etc etc etc...no info! Can't get advice...I wouldn't trust anyone's answers till you post up soil ph results...you haven't mentioned any input variables.

Need soil ph! Lol
 
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I’ve been doing this a long time. Look at my profile homie. I help tons of folks here.
Ph results not necessary. .
 
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You still have yet to prove soil ph dude! Lol

No input given on anything...no numbers..nothing..Can give advice BASED on pictures and little to no info


Soil ph, temps, soil you're using, feed frequency the whole nine yards....soil temp tv's from drainage, etc etc etc...no info! Can't get advice...I wouldn't trust anyone's answers till you post up soil ph results...you haven't mentioned any input variables.

Need soil ph! Lol
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So my proof is in the pudding bro, trust, yeah it’s good stuff, but I wouldn’t say anything, if I didn’t know. Ph in soil is useless.


My ph wand, steadies a wobbly table.
You get new folks in soil no less, to start dicking around with a useless metric, (in soil, dwc and coco, def needed) well, yeah. Hit me up if you want more help, this back and forth isn’t not what this place is for. Like I said, doubt me, ask anyone here, they will tell you.
 
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So yeah, Zero Ph, a few projects I ram recently.
Veg and flower rooms. Soil.
So I guess I need to ph eh?
Like i was saying no need for it.
 

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Did you at least pinch out the bad leaves?
 
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I'm a beginner, but it looks like leaf septoria to me. I'd pinch out the damaged leaves, spritz with fungicide made for cannabis, and give it some calmag in case it's a deficiency instead of fungus. If it is a fungus, wash after plucking, have good circulation. I don't know what a good fungicide is because I've never needed it. But, that's how I'd proceed. Def pick out the bad leaves.
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Not septoria.

Well water doesn't need to sit 24hrs.

What's the medium?

Do a slurry test to rule out pH issues
 
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What should I do to fix this guys?!
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What size of pots? Are those photoperiod? Are you allowing the soil to dry before wetting again?
 
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Looks like heat/light stress just like capt said. Those leaves are fried imo. You shouldn’t stop the nutes just feed like normal. Probably why they’re light sensitive to begin with.
 
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Captspaulding said:
So yeah, Zero Ph, a few projects I ram recently.
Veg and flower rooms. Soil.
So I guess I need to ph eh?
Like i was saying no need for it.
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Nobody wants the simple answer.
They want to know what to buy to instantly
fix the problem.

A farmer doesnt ph the rain that falls on his crops.
So why would u ph soil in a pot? It buffers itself.

A slurry test, now thats something different.......
 
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Nobody wants the simple answer.
They want to know what to buy to instantly
fix the problem.

A farmer doesnt ph the rain that falls on his crops.
So why would u ph soil in a pot? It buffers itself.

A slurry test, now thats something different.......
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This guy gets it…
 
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Nobody wants the simple answer.
They want to know what to buy to instantly
fix the problem.

A farmer doesnt ph the rain that falls on his crops.
So why would u ph soil in a pot? It buffers itself.

A slurry test, now thats something different.......
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They are definitely a good method for sussing ppm and ph,
But in this case and others like it, it’s earmarked in a few ways. Sometimes everything I’m looking for I find in the subtleties. And legit led panels are ridiculous.
It’s hard to overstate how many grows get turned around, but simply turning a light down. And knowing what to look for in low rh related heat/light stress
And high rh heat/light stress.
Subtle,
 
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They are definitely a good method for sussing ppm and ph,
But in this case and others like it, it’s earmarked in a few ways. Sometimes everything I’m looking for I find in the subtleties. And legit led panels are ridiculous.
It’s hard to overstate how many grows get turned around, but simply turning a light down. And knowing what to look for in low rh related heat/light stress
And high rh heat/light stress.
Subtle,
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For me I do slurry on soil before I first use a product,
but mostly after, if I have had issues so I can get strains dialed in.
High intensity light settings make a HUGE difference, just like u said.

My "K" woes are well documented
 
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FuriousStyles said:
Nobody wants the simple answer.
They want to know what to buy to instantly
fix the problem.

A farmer doesnt ph the rain that falls on his crops.
So why would u ph soil in a pot? It buffers itself.

A slurry test, now thats something different.......
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Not all rainfall has the same ph..lmao most if not all scientists will agree to that. Yes soil buffers itself. Depending on input ph it drops over time. Not going to argue...op never stated how long these stunted looking plants have been growing for. Lol...how can you state this response with out the correct info? You can't guarantee to be right mate...you know this! The farmer has a natural buffer in his soil or he puts it in so it's there...duh! You can't grow blueberries in a soil ph of 6.5..lol it needs 5.3 to 5.5 for optimal growth....I'll bet your buds don't taste very well! Or they are just ok....they could be a Lot better if you dial in the soil science...I'm done going back and fourth...oh temp ec have everything to do with the quality of life....Not going to argue! Every being on this planet needs optimal ph for optimal health..lmao...I've checked rain water ph...it flucuates...it's never the same...lol....that all rainwater is 7.0 ph theory is ridiculously stupid!

Did a study in high school...lol....it's bullshit
 
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For me I do slurry on soil before I first use a product,
but mostly after, if I have had issues so I can get strains dialed in.
High intensity light settings make a HUGE difference, just like u said.

My "K" woes are well documented
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K leaches out of your pot the quickest over all other ions. That's why I don't believe in the 10% runoff theory...lol unless you are gauging your soil ec and ph. Then runoff is ok. Just my opinion
 
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Not all rainfall has the same ph..lmao most if not all scientists will agree to that. Yes soil buffers itself. Depending on input ph it drops over time. Not going to argue...op never stated how long these stunted looking plants have been growing for. Lol...how can you state this response with out the correct info? You can't guarantee to be right mate...you know this! The farmer has a natural buffer in his soil or he puts it in so it's there...duh! You can't grow blueberries in a soil ph of 6.5..lol it needs 5.3 to 5.5 for optimal growth....I'll bet your buds don't taste very well! Or they are just ok....they could be a Lot better if you dial in the soil science...I'm done going back and fourth...oh temp ec have everything to do with the quality of life....Not going to argue! Every being on this planet needs optimal ph for optimal health..lmao...I've checked rain water ph...it flucuates...it's never the same...lol....that all rainwater is 7.0 ph theory is ridiculously stupid!

Did a study in high school...lol....it's bullshit
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Bro offer your opinions it’s totally cool dude like you know there’s 1 million ways to skin a cat but at the same time I’ve seen this stuff 1 million times dude for sure but I will say there’s no need to you know be getting bent and stuff. All I know is that in a week or two you should come back to the thread and see those posts that dude puts up when his shits fixed maybe a little behind schedule but fixed.
 
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Not all rainfall has the same ph..lmao most if not all scientists will agree to that. Yes soil buffers itself. Depending on input ph it drops over time. Not going to argue...ok never stated how long these stunted looking plants have been growing for. Lol...how can you state this response with out the correct info? You can't guarantee to be right mate...you know this! Thr farmer has a natural buffer in his soil or he puts it in so it's there...duh! You can't grow blueberries in a soil ph of 6.5..lol it needs 5.3 to 5.5 for optimal growth....I'll bet your buds don't taste very well! Or they are just ok....they could be a Lot better if you dial in the soil science...I'm done going back and fourth...oh temp ec have everything to do with the quality of life....Not going to argue! Every being on this planet needs optimal ph for optimal health..lmao...I've check rain water ph...it flucuates...it's never the same...lol....that all rainwater is 7.0 ph theory is ridiculously stupid!

Did that in high school...lol....
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Flew right over your head didnt it?
No one said it doesnt fluctuate, the point is it doesnt matter.
Not a lot of out door soil farmers manipulating ph for their crops city boy.
Nor indoors, thats why they use soil, easy does it.
Sorry OP things will turn around for you after adjusting your lights.
 
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Captspaulding said:
So yeah, Zero Ph, a few projects I ram recently.
Veg and flower rooms. Soil.
So I guess I need to ph eh?
Like i was saying no need for it.
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Nice set up. I don't think i'd want your electric bill lol
 
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