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erb4all · Sep 18, 2024

FuriousStyles said:
Flew right over your head didnt it?
No one said it doesnt fluctuate, the point is it doesnt matter.
Not a lot of out door soil farmers manipulating ph for their crops city boy.
Nor indoors, thats why they use soil, easy does it.
Sorry OP things will turn around for you after adjusting your lights.

Container growing is dependent on water alkalinity and it changing soil ph over time dude. That's common sense...

a great container grower will know the alkalinity of 1 their water 2 the buffer(alkalinty) of their soil....then they adjust the acidity of their nute throughout the year as their soil ph rises or drops...ffs..lol! So just stfu...I'm no city boy either you name calling small dick parasite...now boot and ban...fuck it they use different fert that effect soil ph. It's a fact ask Paul Fisher phd and William Argo phd..gtfo dude

mstrpkl · Sep 18, 2024

erb4all said:
Container growing is dependent on water alkalinity and it changing soil ph over time dude. That's common sense...

a great container grower will know the alkalinity of 1 their water 2 the buffer(alkalinty) of their soil....then they adjust the acidity of their nute throughout the year as their soil ph rises or drops...ffs..lol! So just stfu...I'm no city boy either you name calling small dick parasite...now boot and ban...fuck it they use different fert that effect soil ph. It's a fact ask Paul Fisher phd and William Argo phd..gtfo dude

danielbmk97 said:
So I will say. I stopped using my nuts and have been using just plain water last few feedings. I believe every other feeding I added calmag but nothing else and phd down to 6.5ish. Also my tent has never been above 84f and the lowest I’ve ever seen is 66f but it’s dialed now and stays at like 75f most all times. Could use more air in tent for circulation I do admit.

Ph is roughly 6.5. Chill brotha lol just read and help, thats all we can do here :)

FuriousStyles · Sep 18, 2024

erb4all said:
Container growing is dependent on water alkalinity and it changing soil ph over time dude. That's common sense...

a great container grower will know the alkalinity of 1 their water 2 the buffer(alkalinty) of their soil....then they adjust the acidity of their nute throughout the year as their soil ph rises or drops...ffs..lol! So just stfu...I'm no city boy either you name calling small dick parasite...now boot and ban...fuck it they use different fert that effect soil ph. It's a fact ask Paul Fisher phd and William Argo phd..gtfo dude

Here is your problem and why no one likes you.

Did I not say a slurry test before and after so one would know? You do know the difference between what that is and what a ph pen does, right?

Just because you have read threads by great container growers doesnt make u one city boy.
And appeals to authority are logical fallacies.
I guess the hundreds of soil container growers showing empirical evidence on this site that use BAGGED soils saying water ph doesnt matter are all wrong?

You are not saying anything that hasnt already been written about on this site multiple times.

Who knows though, maybe ur Mr All Knowing Weed Wizard who has discovered the secret sauce of ph that everybody else overlooked.

Glad ya made it and shared city boy, dont know what we would have done without ya

Captspaulding · Sep 18, 2024

FuriousStyles said:
Flew right over your head didnt it?
No one said it doesnt fluctuate, the point is it doesnt matter.
Not a lot of out door soil farmers manipulating ph for their crops city boy.
Nor indoors, thats why they use soil, easy does it.
Sorry OP things will turn around for you after adjusting your lights.

Cannacraze said:
Nice set up. I don't think i'd want your electric bill lol

And you would be 100% correct in that assessment.
$450 average in the summers. But I don’t redline my gear, very rarely do I chop with my lights over 65%
The larger lights legit save me money. It was worse a few years ago.

Captspaulding · Sep 18, 2024

Cannacraze said:
Nice set up. I don't think i'd want your electric bill lol

And thanks homie! It’s in flux now I’m changing it around to fit more ha!

Captspaulding · Sep 18, 2024

erb4all said:
Container growing is dependent on water alkalinity and it changing soil ph over time dude. That's common sense...

a great container grower will know the alkalinity of 1 their water 2 the buffer(alkalinty) of their soil....then they adjust the acidity of their nute throughout the year as their soil ph rises or drops...ffs..lol! So just stfu...I'm no city boy either you name calling small dick parasite...now boot and ban...fuck it they use different fert that effect soil ph. It's a fact ask Paul Fisher phd and William Argo phd..gtfo dude

You know, by what you are saying, I suppose o just fail upward and get super lucky every grow? I dont water to run off, my soil is on. Its forth run unamended.just removed roots, I’m doing it like that to prove a point to growers who talk all this mumbo jumbo about ph and acidity and alkaline water sources pertaining to soil based grow medium. Everything I’m saying, is from my personal experience with pics to prove it.

Setiously. It’s ok man, wrap a spliff.

You are wrong about a few things.
It’s ok bro.
It’s not the end of the world, unless you just can’t accept it for some reason.

mstrpkl · Sep 18, 2024

Captspaulding said:
You know, by what you are saying, I suppose o just fail upward and get super lucky every grow? I dont water to run off, my soil is on. Its forth run unamended.just removed roots, I’m doing it like that to prove a point to growers who talk all this mumbo jumbo about ph and acidity and alkaline water sources pertaining to soil based grow medium. Everything I’m saying, is from my personal experience with pics to prove it.

Setiously. It’s ok man, wrap a spliff.
You are wrong about a few things.
It’s ok bro.
It’s not the end of the world, unless you just can’t accept it for some reason.

Yea, arent the microbes in the soil be responsible for keeping the soil ph balanced? Im sure its more nuanced than that, but thats the way i see it. As long as you arent adding water with a ridiculous ph i feel like it will just balance back out. I dunno, you know im a noob lol pretty cool youv got a 4th run out of your soil though dude! What kinda soil you runnin?

Beachbumm · Sep 18, 2024

erb4all said:
Container growing is dependent on water alkalinity and it changing soil ph over time dude. That's common sense...

a great container grower will know the alkalinity of 1 their water 2 the buffer(alkalinty) of their soil....then they adjust the acidity of their nute throughout the year as their soil ph rises or drops...ffs..lol! So just stfu...I'm no city boy either you name calling small dick parasite...now boot and ban...fuck it they use different fert that effect soil ph. It's a fact ask Paul Fisher phd and William Argo phd..gtfo dude

Completely agree.

erb4all · Sep 18, 2024

mstrpkl said:
Ph is roughly 6.5. Chill brotha lol just read and help, thats all we can do here :)

The ph of his water is 6.5. He let's it sit out? Hydrogen sulfide maybe, not sure!

erb4all · Sep 18, 2024

mstrpkl said:
Yea, arent the microbes in the soil be responsible for keeping the soil ph balanced? Im sure its more nuanced than that, but thats the way i see it. As long as you arent adding water with a ridiculous ph i feel like it will just balance back out. I dunno, you know im a noob lol pretty cool youv got a 4th run out of your soil though dude! What kinda soil you runnin?

Depends, if the right ph for those microbes was in the soil firstly... fungi do was well. Maybe not all...here's the point all beneficial bacteria need different ph to survive. Im pretty sure of this! That said an even balance of bacteria is better. And most likely will help balancing the ph from that stand point. right?

Alkalinity in h202 can drive ph up or help stabilize it. Even in some cases lower ph. Depending on acids in the fert they use. That's why organic growers mostly don't need to ph up or down the alkalinity of the water and substrate do the balancing act...now if your ph drops in your soil that's where flowable lime helps out!

erb4all · Sep 18, 2024

Captspaulding said:
You know, by what you are saying, I suppose o just fail upward and get super lucky every grow? I dont water to run off, my soil is on. Its forth run unamended.just removed roots, I’m doing it like that to prove a point to growers who talk all this mumbo jumbo about ph and acidity and alkaline water sources pertaining to soil based grow medium. Everything I’m saying, is from my personal experience with pics to prove it.

Setiously. It’s ok man, wrap a spliff.
You are wrong about a few things.
It’s ok bro.
It’s not the end of the world, unless you just can’t accept it for some reason.

Lets see your water report. I want to see what your alkalinity is comprised of. Also your ppm/EC reports from all your grows...you have to be writing this info down. You would have to be trending/analysing this info in real time and adjusting EC accordingly...yeah I could see what your saying cap as being true to some degree...you'd have to re lime at some point though or be using an acid BASED fert switching with a more neutral BASED fert..giving balance! That's what growing is all about a balancing act....then I'd completely believe what's being said

You don't speak of this balancing act and how you go about it....same soil the last 4 grows..I'll take your word for it!

Captspaulding · Sep 18, 2024

mstrpkl said:
Yea, arent the microbes in the soil be responsible for keeping the soil ph balanced? Im sure its more nuanced than that, but thats the way i see it. As long as you arent adding water with a ridiculous ph i feel like it will just balance back out. I dunno, you know im a noob lol pretty cool youv got a 4th run out of your soil though dude! What kinda soil you runnin?

Man so my dirt vendor was running a test at his store and in one of his greenhouses, he took me back there and he showed me all of the different tomato plants and pepper plants that he was running and he was using all the different various soil that he was selling, and he was basically doing a quality control test to see which one did the best, and without a doubt in his opinion and mine just visually that day, the fertilome was leaps and bounds better in terms of plant vigor/size drying out fast, not holding too much moisture in the root zone and doing it just enough to keep air in the pot happy above strawberry fields ocean forest happy frog, big roots you name it and the thing that was a killer about it was $10 cheaper than the other options right off the bat, he got a lifetime customer that day sold me away from something that was more expensive with larger profit margins to something that worked better. that was 5-6 years ago. I love that guy. never looked back, *PH FREE”

Captspaulding · Sep 18, 2024

erb4all said:
Lets see your water report. I want to see what your alkalinity is comprised of. Also your ppm/EC reports from all your grows...you have to be writing this info down. You would have to be trending/analysing this info in real time and adjusting EC accordingly...yeah I could see what your saying cap as being true to some degree...you'd have to re lime at some point though or be using an acid BASED fert switching with a more neutral BASED fert...then I'd completely believe what's being said

Yeah
My water report.
I have zero reason bs anyone. I literally walk people through grows for years.
An army of happy growers, and then your contrary self really think I have to jump through hoop to prove to you, that I’m not lying. ? I’m trying to help you here. It’s the only reason I’m even taking time to respond to this, but it’s quite obvious you wanna hang up on ldumb shit. Like if you want to play science class do it? Play with unnecessary tools that have no purposes in soil, please don’t come on this forum and throw bs at the wall with new growers that want to succeed. There are other ways to do this stuff. Mind blowing stuff I know.

Again, you should do some learning and stop.
We eliminate variables here not add them for no good reason. I was hoping to see what you had grow wise, but hey I’m a liar And me personally, if I can help save folks a buck or two, than I’m in.
Can you believe that?
There are decent honest people here, don’t assume we are lying everyday to new growers. And then be here all the timm I’me to wait for all the people I’ve screwed with bad advice? It’s not how you grow a forum and be inclusive. It’s through actually doing the work with a grower from the start, if I applied what you are suggesting, it’s wasting peoples time and money. Why would I lie about the dirt? Seriously. Think about that. So I can seem cool?

Man,
I’m too old for that bs mentality. 51 and this cat says water report.

the rrock · Sep 18, 2024

I guess if it works no need to fix it,, Im on my 45th year of mostly successful growing,(indoor and out,every year).never ever checked or worried about ph.(or water reports). I use mountain tap water,basic nutes and the OG Biowar,not sure how the microbes work but the growth spurts after usage is incredible,both foliar and root drench(and keeps the bugs at bay)
Being a lurker here I appreciate all the help Mr Captain doles out and I learn something new quite regularly,so thanks

Captspaulding · Sep 18, 2024

erb4all said:
Now read this....you state you get folks in soil dicking around with a useless metric? In () you say soil, dwc,and coco def needed...wait now you said (soil)...no back fourth anymore from me...you just stated ph in soil is a useless metric then say soil,dwc, and coco ph isn't a useless metric....huh?

I've been growing off and on 20 years. I've always ran a ph range 6.3 to 6.5 is soil. Controlling EC for potency and flavor feeding macros and macros in the right ratios. Almost always have the tastiest pot my friends have ever had. Potency varies depending on if I want more lipsmacking flavor...if the strain will give it to me I adjust ferts accordingly...it's not simple at first but once dialed in...it makes for damn near perfection.....

As far as pics I wouldn't post a single one...it's still illegal at red level...we go into Marshall law who knows what the g o. V is capable of...look at Thailand...complete legalization now look at them....outlawed...God only knows who they plan on hanging or jailing...how many folks you think signed up for that one? I'm not going to be Idiot wo a chair when music stops....lmao

I see your grows. I've grown 12 foot plants in 3 gal bags 2 cycles 3rd went downhill a bit. Flowable lime helped a bit...brought back my ph and balanced things out for them. Finish wasn't the greatest backed off ferts and everything went ok...yield and flavor weren't as good as all in the past...it taught me a correct ph balancing act is needed. That is done by alkalizing soil so ph swings don't happen as easily along with dips and rises....ever since it's worked out for me...if I were in a string of Vons maybe I'd post pics...Maybe! I'm in a legal state but this draconian bs going on no way.....now Trump is touting legal pot in FL? Wtf? Don't trust them....none of them!!

Cool story bro. Later!

mstrpkl · Sep 18, 2024

erb4all said:
Now read this....you state you get folks in soil dicking around with a useless metric? In () you say soil, dwc,and coco def needed...wait now you said (soil)...no back fourth anymore from me...you just stated ph in soil is a useless metric then say soil,dwc, and coco ph isn't a useless metric....huh?

I've been growing off and on 20 years. I've always ran a ph range 6.3 to 6.5 is soil. Controlling EC for potency and flavor feeding macros and macros in the right ratios. Almost always have the tastiest pot my friends have ever had. Potency varies depending on if I want more lipsmacking flavor...if the strain will give it to me I adjust ferts accordingly...it's not simple at first but once dialed in...it makes for damn near perfection.....

As far as pics I wouldn't post a single one...it's still illegal at red level...we go into Marshall law who knows what the g o. V is capable of...look at Thailand...complete legalization now look at them....outlawed...God only knows who they plan on hanging or jailing...how many folks you think signed up for that one? I'm not going to be Idiot wo a chair when music stops....lmao

I see your grows. I've grown 12 foot plants in 3 gal bags 2 cycles 3rd went downhill a bit. Flowable lime helped a bit...brought back my ph and balanced things out for them. Finish wasn't the greatest backed off ferts and everything went ok...yield and flavor weren't as good as all in the past...it taught me a correct ph balancing act is needed. That is done by alkalizing soil so ph swings don't happen as easily along with dips and rises....ever since it's worked out for me...if I were in a string of Vons maybe I'd post pics...Maybe! I'm in a legal state but this draconian bs going on no way.....now Trump is touting legal pot in FL? Wtf? Don't trust them....none of them!!

Damn you all over the place my dude lol

At this point in america, good luck arresting everyone who has posted pictures of weed on the internet. Goooooood luck.....

Why you goin at Trump lol blakrock is tryin to kill the guy already, doesnt need randoms attackin as well

Well hopefully the OP gets his problems fixed :)

erb4all · Sep 18, 2024

mstrpkl said:
Damn you all over the place my dude lol

At this point in america, good luck arresting everyone who has posted pictures of weed on the internet. Goooooood luck.....

Why you goin at Trump lol blakrock is tryin to kill the guy already, doesnt need randoms attackin as well

Well hopefully the OP gets his problems fixed :)

He's talking about soiless mediums not soil. I'm not all over the place...Lol take what I SAY as humor the wrong way....lol....whatever....

mstrpkl · Sep 18, 2024

erb4all said:
He's talking about soiless mediums not soil. I'm not all over the place...Lol take what I SAY as humor the wrong way....lol....whatever....

I did take it as humor thats why i put the laughing emoji at the end lol

RealFarmer · Sep 18, 2024

erb4all said:
He hasn't given any info guy! How can you make recommendations with no varible input...lol

Easily. Flushing and feeding fixes any imbalances

erb4all · Sep 18, 2024

RealFarmer said:
Easily. Flushing and feeding fixes any imbalances

We dont know what the type of soil hes using...lol if hes using a soil like build a soil...you dont flush if you do you shouldnt have been using it in the first place....

If hes mostly peat then flushing with a light balanced nute would be ok....soilless ok to flush soil you shouldnt have to. If you are go back to soiless and figure out what you are doing wrong...its my opinion

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