Need help with possible transplant shock?

Feggy · Nov 13, 2022

Good morning everyone-first time indoor grower here, I just moved the plants into their final home yest and they are not looking too good. Any recommendations on what to do would be appreciated

They were in small containers, canna nutrients, coco, vivosun light, fan humidifiers before I moved them and they looked great.

I put them in the tent which has different lights optic led slim 650s and slim 600 about 24” above plants set at 50% strength

I gave them light feeding of canna nutrients after I transplanted them, I used greatwhite miccorhizae before I put new plants down. The temp is a bit higher around 80, so I turned up the exhaust fan.

This is the first time I’ve used the tent, been setting it up for months. I have a bunch of acinfinity clip on fans etc and controller I’m going to set up today

Any help would be appreciated
The first pic is plant before I moved it
The next pic is plant today after move
The third pic is original grow spot
The last pic is final spot where they are now

chemistry · Nov 13, 2022

Potting droop, should just need a bit extra water until the plant gets its roots into the new media and drinks on its own, should be fine in a week.

PipeCarver · Nov 13, 2022

Feggy said:
Good morning everyone-first time indoor grower here, I just moved the plants into their final home yest and they are not looking too good. Any recommendations on what to do would be appreciated

They were in small containers, canna nutrients, coco, vivosun light, fan humidifiers before I moved them and they looked great.

I put them in the tent which has different lights optic led slim 650s and slim 600 about 24” above plants set at 50% strength

I gave them light feeding of canna nutrients after I transplanted them, I used greatwhite miccorhizae before I put new plants down. The temp is a bit higher around 80, so I turned up the exhaust fan.

This is the first time I’ve used the tent, been setting it up for months. I have a bunch of acinfinity clip on fans etc and controller I’m going to set up today

Any help would be appreciated
The first pic is plant before I moved it
The next pic is plant today after move
The third pic is original grow spot
The last pic is final spot where they are now

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Hi, That's what my plants look like if they're in desperate need of water. When I transplant I don't get any shock unless I fk up. I pre wet all of my soil then I make a hole the same size as the pot the plant is in.......in the new pot. So I've a fresh hole ready to place my girl into. Then squeeze around the pot I'm transplanting out of on all sides and tap the bottom to drop out the plant and gently place in the new hole......fill the pot the rest of the way with damp soil and pat into place to support the stalk .

Then I flood the plant with water or feed depending on its needs and saturate the soil to seat the plant in its new home......The next day they're standing proud in their new home....If I've miss handled the plant or the soil mass broke away and I exposed or broke the roots then there will be some hanging and recovery time.

Long story short roots won't grow into dry soil and if the soil wasn't wet and place onto dry soil the roots won't like that and will respond by making your plant look sick........

Feggy · Nov 13, 2022

That’s what I was thinking
I’m using cyco blitz coco, but I washed it anyway so it was wet. I only gave them a small feeding though, I think I’m gonna try what you said. Thanks

Feggy · Nov 13, 2022

chemistry said:
Potting droop, should just need a bit extra water until the plant gets its roots into the new media and drinks on its own, should be fine in a week.

Thanks for the help

ProfessorB88 · Nov 13, 2022

They be good in a few days but if you want to help them with stress I use plant magic root stimulant as a foliar feed helps with shock and stress and always look happy after dilute at 1.5ml per litre spray 10-15 mins before lights go out

Aqua Man · Nov 13, 2022

Back the light off for 2-3 days after a transplant. Up the humidity to about 70% for the same period.

water for coco not soil.

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Madmax · Nov 13, 2022

Dammit made me delete what i was going to say .i was thinking it was the new light and they arnt liking it..

Feggy · Nov 14, 2022

You may be right, they seem to have bounced back a bit. I lowered the light power and raised it a bit yesterday.
This morning I saw this, would this be light burn?

Edinburg · Nov 14, 2022

I would water and check ph, a bit of pearlite may help, but I would water and check the ph.

Aqua Man · Nov 14, 2022

Madmax said:
Dammit made me delete what i was going to say .i was thinking it was the new light and they arnt liking it..

Yeah it was the light but that could be due to the stress causing the plant to not be able to tolerate it. None the less 500-600ppfd is maxing out even larger more mature plants under ideal conditions. So its not really surprising to see.

The first things as you know when you see stress on a plant is reduce light. Your bang on brother

Madmax · Nov 14, 2022

I have similar happening to my girls but not as bad.just with the leaf droop on the fan leaves but the smaller ones on branches look okay..i went from 315watt cmh at 35' to 450w led at 75% at 33 inches lol with no transplant.lux is only showing 25-28 lux on a cheapo but far from accurate an they might b exceeding there dli at 30 dys old on 18/6 .

Feggy · Nov 14, 2022

Edinburg said:
I would water and check ph, a bit of pearlite may help, but I would water and check the ph.

I’m going to double check ph tonight when I get home, this type of coco is supposed to have some larger chunks that do the same thing as perlite -cyco blitz

elusiveshame · Nov 14, 2022

Feggy said:
I’m going to double check ph tonight when I get home, this type of coco is supposed to have some larger chunks that do the same thing as perlite -cyco blitz

Perlite helps with aeration and retains only a little water. Not sure it does anything for ph, though.

Feggy · Nov 16, 2022

So I have the temp dialed in around 74-75, lights were raised up a few inches, power turned down to 25%, humidity is between 55-60%

Light feed scheduled with canna coco nutes, double check ph and it’s 6.1-6.2

Most are doing ok (except the leaves don’t have nice green look to them).
There are two plants however that have these faded yellow spots on them

I’ve tried googled and reading but unsure what they are or how to treat it. Any help would be appreciated. Not sure if I should cut leaves off or add something to nutes or make any other adjustments

Happyreefing · Nov 16, 2022

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elusiveshame · Nov 16, 2022

Feggy said:
So I have the temp dialed in around 74-75, lights were raised up a few inches, power turned down to 25%, humidity is between 55-60%

Light feed scheduled with canna coco nutes, double check ph and it’s 6.1-6.2

Most are doing ok (except the leaves don’t have nice green look to them).
There are two plants however that have these faded yellow spots on them

I’ve tried googled and reading but unsure what they are or how to treat it. Any help would be appreciated. Not sure if I should cut leaves off or add something to nutes or make any other adjustments

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Keep the leaves on. They don’t look too terrible and will mostly recover. If they continue to get worse, then you’ll need to adjust other variables. I wouldn’t try adding nutrients just yet to try to fix them - just keep your normal feed schedule / nutrient schedule for now.

Feggy · Nov 16, 2022

elusiveshame said:
Keep the leaves on. They don’t look too terrible and will mostly recover. If they continue to get worse, then you’ll need to adjust other variables. I wouldn’t try adding nutrients just yet to try to fix them - just keep your normal feed schedule / nutrient schedule for now.

Thanks, that put my mind at ease. It’s my first indoor grow. I guess I’m overthinking everything.

Aqua Man · Nov 16, 2022

Drop the ph of your feed to 5.6-5.8 this will make nitrogen more available.

how often are you watering and how much? In that small amount of media the plants can consume it very quickly so you need to be watering often enough. Remember a plant can only uptake nutrients that are dissolved into water in ionic form. Don’t worry too much about overwatering at this stage as coco has a high air to water ratio so it hold much less water than soil. This means they have less of a nutrient pool to pull from. Over watering is lack of o2 not too much water. Thats why we can grow in pure water like hydro.

what is the EC you are giving them?

LED will increase demands for potassium, magnesium and calcium. Combined with cocos affinity for those nutrients you ma need to feed more often with a higher EC.

i suggest around 800ppm and keeping the media 90% saturated or higher

Feggy · Nov 17, 2022

Aqua Man said:
Drop the ph of your feed to 5.6-5.8 this will make nitrogen more available.

how often are you watering and how much? In that small amount of media the plants can consume it very quickly so you need to be watering often enough. Remember a plant can only uptake nutrients that are dissolved into water in ionic form. Don’t worry too much about overwatering at this stage as coco has a high air to water ratio so it hold much less water than soil. This means they have less of a nutrient pool to pull from. Over watering is lack of o2 not too much water. Thats why we can grow in pure water like hydro.

what is the EC you are giving them?

LED will increase demands for potassium, magnesium and calcium. Combined with cocos affinity for those nutrients you ma need to feed more often with a higher EC.

i suggest around 800ppm and keeping the media 90% saturated or higher

Thanks for the advice, I’m going to add another feeding to schedule and try with a lower ph. . The ec is 1.4 (tap water is 350 of that )-I just got a ro system, it will be setup this week

Need help with possible transplant shock?

Need help with possible transplant shock?

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Happyreefing

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