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Need help with possible transplant shock?

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Hi, That's what my plants look like if they're in desperate need of water. When I transplant I don't get any shock unless I fk up. I pre wet all of my soil then I make a hole the same size as the pot the plant is in.......in the new pot. So I've a fresh hole ready to place my girl into. Then squeeze around the pot I'm transplanting out of on all sides and tap the bottom to drop out the plant and gently place in the new hole......fill the pot the rest of the way with damp soil and pat into place to support the stalk .

Then I flood the plant with water or feed depending on its needs and saturate the soil to seat the plant in its new home......The next day they're standing proud in their new home....If I've miss handled the plant or the soil mass broke away and I exposed or broke the roots then there will be some hanging and recovery time.

Long story short roots won't grow into dry soil and if the soil wasn't wet and place onto dry soil the roots won't like that and will respond by making your plant look sick........
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Is there a certain time in your light cycle you should transplant?
 
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simonkay said:
Is there a certain time in your light cycle you should transplant?
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In darkness after orange sunset 2 adults helping you with the task
 
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Is there a certain time in your light cycle you should transplant?
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Not that I'm aware of, I look for the soil to be almost dry so the roots and soil come out as 1 and it doesn't crumble apart when removed from the pot......too wet no good & too dry no good I water / feed in veg ever 4-5 days so day 3-4 is a good transplant day.
 
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simonkay said:
Is there a certain time in your light cycle you should transplant?
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First thing when lights come on.water the plants as usual then prepare the new media by putting it in a very large pot,run some water or nutes what you are feeding through till it just runs out..i then empty mine into a baby’s bath to check it making sure it’s all wet .then up pot it into the new pot,add your micros whatever.I wait about an hr for the pots you watered to drain then up pot them..
 
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All you have to do is make sure you're plants soil is dry bc you want your root ball intact bc if it's wet it will fall apart.
 
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First thing when lights come on.water the plants as usual then prepare the new media by putting it in a very large pot,run some water or nutes what you are feeding through till it just runs out..i then empty mine into a baby’s bath to check it making sure it’s all wet .then up pot it into the new pot,add your micros whatever.I wait about an hr for the pots you watered to drain then up pot them..
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Ive missed the morning is it still ok to transplant say 2 hours before lights out?
 
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In darkness after orange sunset 2 adults helping you with the task
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Why do you transplant in darkness?
 
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Allow a good dry back, transplant then water, reduce light intensity and increase humidity (if possible) for 2-3 days to reduce transpirational stress. If all looks good after 3ish days then back to normal.

light drives transpirational demands on the roots and plant. Humidity increase reduces transpiration rates reducing demand on the roots. Both are ideal to reduce transplant stress as its root stress that causes the issues
 
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Allow a good dry back, transplant then water, reduce light intensity and increase humidity (if possible) for 2-3 days to reduce transpirational stress. If all looks good after 3ish days then back to normal.

light drives transpirational demands on the roots and plant. Humidity increase reduces transpiration rates reducing demand on the roots. Both are ideal to reduce transplant stress as its root stress that causes the issues
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Got it so keep vpd on low end for a few days. But does it matter if i transplant in the morning when lights start or towards the end when they are going off, am i overthinking this?
 
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Overthinking this. Just be gently and they’ll bounce back.
 
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simonkay said:
Ive missed the morning is it still ok to transplant say 2 hours before lights out?
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Sure but I wouldn’t b keen to water before lights out.I’ve never done it so can’t answer..

what are you growing in coco?
 
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Got it so keep vpd on low end for a few days. But does it matter if i transplant in the morning when lights start or towards the end when they are going off, am i overthinking this?
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imo No and yes overthinking a bit. Just ease the transpiration stress fow a few days after transplant and should be good. Reduced light intensity will ease the stress the most. Not nore dark but reduced intensity
 
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What will happen if he waters before lights out .@Aqua Man
 
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What will happen if he waters before lights out .@Aqua Man
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They explode
 
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They explode
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oh you have done it..do the tops explode or do the roots explode out of the pot..got any pics..
 
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Sure but I wouldn’t b keen to water before lights out.I’ve never done it so can’t answer..

what are you growing in coco?
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Yes that makes sense , seedlings in jiffy pellets and will move into living soil, perl, peat, ewc etc
 
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What will happen if he waters before lights out .@Aqua Man
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Your right. If transplanting close to lights out then wait to water until lights on.

depending on media thats one if the most common ways to end up with symptoms of overwatering
 
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yeah..I don’t like to water once I up pot but it shouldn’t really make any difference as the roots won’t b down the bottom of the pot where it will b saturated.that’s why I’ve always watered in the small pot first before up potting.then wait till most drains then into the bigger pot..

damn I keep forgetting soils a different animal.
 
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Allow a good dry back, transplant then water, reduce light intensity and increase humidity (if possible) for 2-3 days to reduce transpirational stress. If all looks good after 3ish days then back to normal.

light drives transpirational demands on the roots and plant. Humidity increase reduces transpiration rates reducing demand on the roots. Both are ideal to reduce transplant stress as its root stress that causes the issues
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Yes, 100% ...... I've not reduced the light on them ever but that's something I'd not thought of doing either , I'm not sure that applies under T5's but I hear you, It certainly wouldn't be a good time to increase the intensity immediately after a transplant or under led's ..............

Now thanks to the heads up I'll keep that in mind when I go into Auto Pots for my first time I'll back the light off when they get put in the new pots......always something to learn even when I'm trying to help.....
 
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Drop the ph of your feed to 5.6-5.8 this will make nitrogen more available.

how often are you watering and how much? In that small amount of media the plants can consume it very quickly so you need to be watering often enough. Remember a plant can only uptake nutrients that are dissolved into water in ionic form. Don’t worry too much about overwatering at this stage as coco has a high air to water ratio so it hold much less water than soil. This means they have less of a nutrient pool to pull from. Over watering is lack of o2 not too much water. Thats why we can grow in pure water like hydro.

what is the EC you are giving them?

LED will increase demands for potassium, magnesium and calcium. Combined with cocos affinity for those nutrients you ma need to feed more often with a higher EC.

i suggest around 800ppm and keeping the media 90% saturated or higher
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