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Yes, surprisingly lol
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Not a surprise actually! If I remember correctly you said they were bag seeds. 99% of the time when you grow these out and get 100% females they are from unintended hermaphrodites. They are either S1 or R1 feminized seeds and some if not all could also herm on you.

Keep a keen eye on the bottom, low light part of the canopy where they will likely pop up first. Do your last defol cleanup down there now and don't trim heavy after that. The stress from pruning/low light is usually enough to get the hermies excited. Also, lack of ethylene gas which is a hormone only available in the air can be a factor so make sure there's good airflow down there.

With diligent examination and control it's not the end of the world. The worst that could happen is your flower is also going to have a bunch of (useless) seeds in it.

Best case scenario is that your bag seeds came from a plant that hermed due to heavy stress and not genetic disposition. In that case it's possible the offspring (your plants) will remain true females under normal growing conditions. The odds would be better with an R1 cross but you have no way of knowing that.

Either way, you have to grow it to find out!

I also sincerely hope I am 100% wrong on this one! Keep us posted, good luck!
 
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Not a surprise actually! If I remember correctly you said they were bag seeds. 99% of the time when you grow these out and get 100% females they are unintended hermaphrodites. They are either S1 or R1 feminized seeds and some if not all could also herm on you.

Keep a keen eye on the bottom, low light part of the canopy where they will likely pop up first. Do your last defol cleanup down there now and don't trim heavy after that. The stress from pruning/low light is usually enough to get the hermies excited. Also, lack of ethylene gas which is a hormone only available in the air can be a factor so make sure there's good airflow down there.

With diligent examination and control it's not the end of the world. The worst that could happen is your flower is also going to have a bunch of (useless) seeds in it.

Best case scenario is that your bag seeds came from a plant that hermed due to heavy stress and not genetic disposition. In that case it's possible the offspring (your plants) will remain true females under normal growing conditions. The odds would be better with an R1 cross but you have no way of knowing that.

Either way, you have to grow it to find out!

I also sincerely hope I am 100% wrong on this one! Keep us posted, good luck!
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Yeah you’re right, all bag seeds - and unsure about the genetics it came from at all.

I was curious at what the chances would be I found herms, and that does make sense (unfortunately lol). I will keep a close eye, especially on bottom branches. Would you recommend that I remove any sacs as they show themselves? Or would that be a sign to cull the plant completely?

Is there a point at which you’d feel “safe” from them herming, or would you be nervous/cautious up until the end? Ah, we are so close - yet still so far haha

Appreciate the insight!
 
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Nice job, everything looks great.Be careful with the air renewal. The leaves seem to be looking down. Maybe some fans or an extractor fan would be good to renew the air or raise the lamps a little higher. The leaves should always be facing upwards at 22.10 if they were a clock. That is a good sign that everything is going well.
 
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Yeah you’re right, all bag seeds - and unsure about the genetics it came from at all.

I was curious at what the chances would be I found herms, and that does make sense (unfortunately lol). I will keep a close eye, especially on bottom branches. Would you recommend that I remove any sacs as they show themselves? Or would that be a sign to cull the plant completely?

Is there a point at which you’d feel “safe” from them herming, or would you be nervous/cautious up until the end? Ah, we are so close - yet still so far haha

Appreciate the insight!
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If you do get some and they're just a few scattered around just pull them off carefully. If you're diligent you can catch them before they are mature enough to release pollen. If it's widespread then yeah, bye bye lol.
 
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Yeah you’re right, all bag seeds - and unsure about the genetics it came from at all.

I was curious at what the chances would be I found herms, and that does make sense (unfortunately lol). I will keep a close eye, especially on bottom branches. Would you recommend that I remove any sacs as they show themselves? Or would that be a sign to cull the plant completely?

Is there a point at which you’d feel “safe” from them herming, or would you be nervous/cautious up until the end? Ah, we are so close - yet still so far haha

Appreciate the insight!
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Be attentive and remove the male flowers with your fingers or small hair tweezers. It is not necessary to remove the whole plant. Droughts and sudden changes in temperature, ph or feeding are what create the most hermaphroditism. It is necessary to try to maintain everything as stable as possible.
 
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I appreciate the ideas!

I am thinking of seeing if I can find a buddy to take a plant or two - otherwise it’s sounding like taking all 7 through flower in this tent may be a poor choice. Would I just choose my favorite 4 or 5? Or the plants that are the most similar in height?

I have about 20 inches between lights and plants, with multiple feet of room(6ft tent). They’ve all been topped once, so not super tall. Light is a p2000 viparspectra btw
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I have the older viper P2500 250watt i love it
 
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Nice job, everything looks great.Be careful with the air renewal. The leaves seem to be looking down. Maybe some fans or an extractor fan would be good to renew the air or raise the lamps a little higher. The leaves should always be facing upwards at 22.10 if they were a clock. That is a good sign that everything is going well.
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Thank you!!

Yeah I had just watered, and they were thirsty lol. Usually the leaves look a little more perky imo. I have a 4 inch inline fan above my light removing air, and a clip fan just above the canopy. I find that they pray more with a little higher rh, but I’ve been keeping humidity down since it’s a little crowded in there
 
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If you do get some and they're just a few scattered around just pull them off carefully. If you're diligent you can catch them before they are mature enough to release pollen. If it's widespread then yeah, bye bye lol.
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Haha we don’t want that - thank you for the tips.

I have some better genetics waiting to run on the next go - but wanted to test the whole setup with some seeds I didn’t pay for. Now that it’s going well I wish I’d just popped the nice beans
 
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Your doing great. I'm glad you flipped those when you did. Don't be worried about bringing those out of the tent when lights are on to give them a real good look over. I pull mine out all the time and check em over like a old nurse should LOL. I even swap positions in the tent.
 
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Your doing great. I'm glad you flipped those when you did. Don't be worried about bringing those out of the tent when lights are on to give them a real good look over. I pull mine out all the time and check em over like an old nurse should LOL. I even swap positions in the tent.
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Thank you!!

Yeah me too. It felt too early at the time, but now is looking like a great call lol. Yeah I think I’ll be pulling them out to water/check them out from now on.

That’s funny, I do that too! My wife asks why it takes me so long to water them - I tell her that we’re just bonding
 
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It’s as if you all know what you’re talking about! Haha I did end up finding what I believe were some pollen sacs, seemingly before they’d matured or opened up. Over the past week or so I’ve found about 5 or 6 total on a couple of the plants. Thanks to you guys though, I’ve been checking them often and don’t believe I’ve missed any so far. I’ve left the couple of plants (I believe just plants 4 & 7) that had the sacs, because their flower production seems to be just as far along as the rest. They do seem to be looking nice, even getting a little frosty! lol
 

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It’s as if you all know what you’re talking about! Haha I did end up finding what I believe were some pollen sacs, seemingly before they’d matured or opened up. Over the past week or so I’ve found about 5 or 6 total on a couple of the plants. Thanks to you guys though, I’ve been checking them often and don’t believe I’ve missed any so far. I’ve left the couple of plants (I believe just plants 4 & 7) that had the sacs, because their flower production seems to be just as far along as the rest. They do seem to be looking nice, even getting a little frosty! lol
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Like a book I've already read!

Were all the male flowers on lower branches/larf?
 
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Great looking plants too! Looks like you got the feeding spot on. Keep us posted!
 
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Like a book I've already read!

Were all the male flowers on lower branches/larf?
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Pretty much, mostly on the inner sides of lower branches.
 
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It’s as if you all know what you’re talking about! Haha I did end up finding what I believe were some pollen sacs, seemingly before they’d matured or opened up. Over the past week or so I’ve found about 5 or 6 total on a couple of the plants. Thanks to you guys though, I’ve been checking them often and don’t believe I’ve missed any so far. I’ve left the couple of plants (I believe just plants 4 & 7) that had the sacs, because their flower production seems to be just as far along as the rest. They do seem to be looking nice, even getting a little frosty! lol
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They look very good. The leaves look perfect and green. Keep up the good work, keeping an eye on the plants often and providing solutions to small problems as they arise. There is less time left for the harvest and the plants need more food, less nitrogen and more phosphorus and potassium until the end of flowering.
 
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haha that’s funny, I thought I had all the room in the world in a couple weeks ago! They are in smaller pots(2 gal), do you think 3 or 4 would end up being fine in here? Or am I biting off more than I can chew? lol
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For that space, I’d either grow one nice plant or a modified sea of green with the ones u have.
 
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Are you thinning any out or just gonna take them all to flower? It would be a jungle in there
Look good though
 
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For that space, I’d either grow one nice plant or a modified sea of green with the ones u have.
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Yeah this was all kind of thought up on the go. I will definitely be modifying my approach on the next run through.
 
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Things have been going well! Colors are changing, most of them showing a dark blue/purple now. Frosted up nicely as well. I think I am about a week or so from chop, or at lease that is what I believe based on trichomes I can pick up on my phone.

Any tips on the harvest and dry/cure? I plan on using the same tent for drying, and have some grove bags that I plan on using for the cure.

Thanks!
 

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Things have been going well! Colors are changing, most of them showing a dark blue/purple now. Frosted up nicely as well. I think I am about a week or so from chop, or at lease that is what I believe based on trichomes I can pick up on my phone.

Any tips on the harvest and dry/cure? I plan on using the same tent for drying, and have some grove bags that I plan on using for the cure.

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Looking good! They behaved themselves and space wasn't an issue at all. How seeded did they get?

I would wait until you see some senescence before you think about chopping too just my .02
 
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