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At the socal cannabis cup the extreme booth was giving away samples. I should have went back 10 times.
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Really? It's that good? What's in it?
 
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Sometimes you just get a messed up plant that's not fixable. Happened to me with one plant, a pheno of Fruity Pebbles f2 that was growing in the same 300 gallon smartpot with 2 of it's sisters.
 
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Really? It's that good? What's in it?
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Boo bam Uncle Sam.
 
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Sometimes you just get a messed up plant that's not fixable. Happened to me with one plant, a pheno of Fruity Pebbles f2 that was growing in the same 300 gallon smartpot with 2 of it's sisters.
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Yeah, at first I was chalking it up to just this one The Fuzz. I know that that hybrid is a little fussy, so I was just thinking that it was that one plant. But then the other Fuzz started fading, too, followed by the El Jefe Thai, although the El Jefe isn't nearly as pale green as the two Fuzzes. I do think that it's an issue all-around, though. Depending on how things look tomorrow, I may still add like just a teaspoon of fish meal top-dressed, the same time I drench with the compost tea.

I'll take a pic or two and post it here tomorrow, after I water. Honestly, I was forced to veg these plants for ninety days, rather than my usual sixty days, so it doesn't surprise me that there are "issues." And I only put the word issues in quotes because I really don't think that this is a huge deal. Everything's getting frosty already and I'm not even a month into flower. I really only started this thread because I'm seeing something happening that I've never seen before and I figured all y'all good peeps might be able to chime in and relay similar experiences and/or solutions. I don't know everything. I'm always trying to learn more.

Also, did the two Fruity Pebbles in the same bed look good? It was just that one plant that looked fucked up, even though they were in the same bed? How interesting....
 
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Boo bam Uncle Sam.
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Okay. Looks good. I'm a big fan of beneficial biology and revitalizing my soil haha! But what's in it? Is it just compost? Is it a compost tea or a nutrient tea? Or both?
 
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Okay. Looks good. I'm a big fan of beneficial biology and revitalizing my soil haha! But what's in it? Is it just compost? Is it a compost tea or a nutrient tea? Or both?
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Compost tea.
 
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I can give all the actual ingredients. I've never made a nutrient tea..... you want em?
 
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Compost tea.
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Oh, okay. Well, my usual compost tea typically does the trick. But I'll keep that in mind if I ever don't have any fresh compost on hand. Have you ever tried Bu's compost tea bags or whatever you wanna call them? They sound interesting. But I definitely subscribe to the "less is more" philosophy. Every now and then, I might add a tablespoon of fish/kelp emulsion to my teas, but for the most part I just use compost or EWC and molasses.
 
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I can give all the actual ingredients. I've never made a nutrient tea..... you want em?
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Yeah! For sure! Like I said above, I'm always looking to learn more. I like seeing what works for people.
 
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I haven't. I've never used a specific kind of "tea bag" or whatever, although I have considered using the one from Bu's. I'll brew an alfalfa meal tea or two in veg, maybe throw a little kelp in there, as well, but mostly I just brew a compost tea (4 gallons of water, 1.5 cups of compost or EWC and a third of a cup of molasses) at the beginning of veg and then the same tea at the beginning of flower. I didn't do the ACT at the beginning of flower this time, which may be one of the reasons why my fan leaves are yellowing. Like I said in the previous post, I've got a compost tea brewing right now, it'll be ready tomorrow morning and I'll drench with it then. We'll see what happens.

Btw, trolls get no love or even recognition on any of my threads. Let's hope this is the last we hear from you-know-who.
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Yeah it's an edgy situation. You either get the troll that helps or the humpback.
 
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Oh, okay. Well, my usual compost tea typically does the trick. But I'll keep that in mind if I ever don't have any fresh compost on hand. Have you ever tried Bu's compost tea bags or whatever you wanna call them? They sound interesting. But I definitely subscribe to the "less is more" philosophy. Every now and then, I might add a tablespoon of fish/kelp emulsion to my teas, but for the most part I just use compost or EWC and molasses.
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Never used that product. Just tea from the hydro store and the extreme tea.
 
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Never used that product. Just tea from the hydro store and the extreme tea.
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Ah, okay. But that Extreme tea is dry, right? Or it's in a bottle? I can't really tell from your pic, but it look like a bag as opposed to a bottle.
 
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Ah, okay. But that Extreme tea is dry, right? Or it's in a bottle? I can't really tell from your pic, but it look like a bag as opposed to a bottle.
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It's a small bag/pouch. With an activator pack.

This company doesn't give out every detail about what's in it. Most don't.
 
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It's a small bag/pouch. With an activator pack.
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This company doesn't give out every detail about what's in it. Most don't.
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Hmmm..... interesting. I wonder what the "two part system that keeps the product stable until time of use" is. I'm very, very vigilant when it comes to what my plants get. If I don't know what's in it, my plants aren't getting it.

Off-topic: how was that SoCal cannabis cup this year? I keep telling myself I'm gonna go to one of those, one day, but I never end up going haha. San Bernadino? I don't know about that haha!
 
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Hmmm..... interesting. I wonder what the "two part system that keeps the product stable until time of use" is. I'm very, very vigilant when it comes to what my plants get. If I don't know what's in it, my plants aren't getting it.

Off-topic: how was that SoCal cannabis cup this year? I keep telling myself I'm gonna go to one of those, one day, but I never end up going haha. San Bernadino? I don't know about that haha!
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That be the brew part. This tea can be used without brewing. But using that 2nd part which is the microbe pack keeps it stable while multiplying microbes when brewing for 24-48 hours. 2part.
Cup was fine. Different vibes, not many places to sit for Stoney ass people. I can't walk around from open till close of cup. I was beat. I'll go to it again. The benefits of new stuff was overwhelming but worth it.
 
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That be the brew part. This tea can be used without brewing. But using that 2nd part which is the microbe pack keeps it stable while multiplying microbes when brewing for 24-48 hours. 2part.
Cup was fine. Different vibes, not many places to sit for Stoney ass people. I can't walk around from open till close of cup. I was beat. I'll go to it again. The benefits of new stuff was overwhelming but worth it.
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No place to sit?!? Fuck that! Haha. I gotta sit down sometimes, especially if I'm outside in the Inland Empire in the middle of summer.
 
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No place to sit?!? Fuck that! Haha. I gotta sit down sometimes, especially if I'm outside in the Inland Empire in the middle of summer.
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There was an air conditioned room but it wasn't enough sitting space. What sit on the fucking ground. I would have,eh. It was awesome though. It's not like a cup in Amsterdam ten years ago. It's wild out there. 50 or more free dabs. Endless really.
 
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Going back to my input, @fatawa was correct when he said I was feeding too much, however, that means that he is conceding that too many nutrients present at harvest does indeed make the bud taste bad. Hence why having minimal nutrients present throughout will avoid the bitter chlorophyll and whatnot taste that I'm sure every grower has tasted at some time or another. You can't blame him for having his opinion, he didn't agree with what I said- it's a forum so we must debate these things. We must simply agree to disagree. Each to their own. Everybody is right, everybody is wrong. If you agreed with everything you heard you would never try anything new...No hard feelings. I'm all about the love these days :) peace
 
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There was an air conditioned room but it wasn't enough sitting space. What sit on the fucking ground. I would have,eh. It was awesome though. It's not like a cup in Amsterdam ten years ago. It's wild out there. 50 or more free dabs. Endless really.
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I met a cool dude from the U.S. when me and my friend visited Amsterdam. We were standing outside centraal station having a cigarette before flying. Andy came over and asked us if we just came, as he is leaving and had a load of leftover hash that he couldn't finish. So we all went around the corner and smoked a huge doob, the last before flying home. He couldn't believe I was rolling it in a joint with tobacco, but it still was killer! I was commenting how fucked I was getting, because this was NICE hash, nothing like crap in the UK. He turns and says 'this is nothing, fly out to Ventura County sometime and I'll show you the real shit' :D we shook hands, parted ways. Next stop California :D
 
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@Minitiger sorry dude just realised I'm ruining your thread with random stories, I imagined I was in the 'chat shit' thread for a moment :D
 
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