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No Colas Just Really Small Nugs Help!!!

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they look fine, next time i would look into some lollipoping and using that scrog to stretch the plants out a little more. you did alot better than ninety percent on their first grows though thats for sure. they will fatten up though.
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Thanks. Will do, I was thinking the same thing with lollipopping and scrogging
 
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What npk are u giving right now? Synthetic or organic? I was told if leafs are super dark green and shiney in flower to back off the nitrogen I'm using jacks on this photo in flower 10/30/20 at 400 ppm every feed I used flora nova bloom on that auto up there it's 4/8/7
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Npk is 6/2/12
 
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Where ur week 3 of flower u should be giving them heavy phosphorus and potassium n if ur doing that in a few weeks u will be golden
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Organic npk in 6/2/12 is that heavy enough
 
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I started with four plants my first indoor grow and I've had so much help from the fellas and ladies here in the forums I have harvested one auto and I have two more autos and a photo just now hitting week 3 of flower ive learned to let em do their thing feed em give em light n let the plants tell ya what they need if ur girls are happy looking ur doing all u need to be and u should get some nice smoke gotta say its totally different than growing outdoors
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Ok thanks, I can’t wait to grow outdoors!!! I get excited thinking about it
 
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Npk is 6/2/12
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I'm not sure about organics I run synthetic nutrients in promix bx soil with perlite and worm castings
 
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Thanks. Will do, I was thinking the same thing with lollipopping and scrogging
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But now that you’ve seen it happen you know what to plan for next time while you veg.
 
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This pic is a story teller. Way way way to much "N" for a plant in flower. That 6 in you NPK is causing the dark glossy leaves and undefined edges of the leaf pedals. And they are heat stressing. There is some tacoing which is light stress. See how the edge of the leaves are turned up. Thats a classic heat stress marker. The tacoing or canoeing some call it is light stress. Now the question is? Is it really heat, light stress or a complication of to much nitrogen. I think it's way to much nitrogen. Your NPK numbers are for veg not flower. You need a flower fert thats more like 3-5-5, 2-6-8. Something with less N and slightly more P/K. Good Luck!

 
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I went and looked up the nutes your using. How are you measuring out the nutes? That stuff is concentrated and kind of nutty as hell NPK wise.
 
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This pic is a story teller. Way way way to much "N" for a plant in flower. That 6 in you NPK is causing the dark glossy leaves and undefined edges of the leaf pedals. And they are heat stressing. There is some tacoing which is light stress. See how the edge of the leaves are turned up. Thats a classic heat stress marker. The tacoing or canoeing some call it is light stress. Now the question is? Is it really heat, light stress or a complication of to much nitrogen. I think it's way to much nitrogen. Your NPK numbers are for veg not flower. You need a flower fert thats more like 3-5-5, 2-6-8. Something with less N and slightly more P/K. Good Luck!

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Why the heat matts
 
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This pic is a story teller. Way way way to much "N" for a plant in flower. That 6 in you NPK is causing the dark glossy leaves and undefined edges of the leaf pedals. And they are heat stressing. There is some tacoing which is light stress. See how the edge of the leaves are turned up. Thats a classic heat stress marker. The tacoing or canoeing some call it is light stress. Now the question is? Is it really heat, light stress or a complication of to much nitrogen. I think it's way to much nitrogen. Your NPK numbers are for veg not flower. You need a flower fert thats more like 3-5-5, 2-6-8. Something with less N and slightly more P/K. Good Luck!

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@Blastfact Should I turn down the light to stop heat stress?
 
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Why the heat matts
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@Doublej For some reason the heat in my tent was too cool. I originally used them for the seedlings then once they started growing I just never removed it. It is helping with the temp inside the tent.
 
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I went and looked up the nutes your using. How are you measuring out the nutes? That stuff is concentrated and kind of nutty as hell NPK wise.
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@Blastfact i am but not to the exact amount it’s a rough estimate. I’m using a regular teaspoon. Before I wasn’t using enough then when I looked up how much a 3 gallon in flowing stage would need I increased it. Picture attached at what I’m using. I just trusted the brand to tell me this is what I needed in the flowering stage.
 

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I looked up what you are using and the feed chart is trash. There using liters and grains. So I'm seeing on there crap feed chart 24 l. to 60 gr. in flower. 24 l. = to 6.34 gal. I use gr. to measure gun powder for my ammo when I build ammo. 60 gr. is a measure I use with some gun powders in loading .223 Win or Nato 5.56 AR-15 ammo. At any rate your using way to much. A teaspoon would be around what one would need for 6 gal. of water. Are you mixing for the pot size the plant is in? If so thats not how you do it,,, at all. Are there any instructions on the back of the package?
 
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And to answer your question. Small buds/nugz grow together to make big colas...
 
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I looked up what you are using and the feed chart is trash. There using liters and grains. So I'm seeing on there crap feed chart 24 l. to 60 gr. in flower. 24 l. = to 6.34 gal. I use gr. to measure gun powder for my ammo when I build ammo. 60 gr. is a measure I use with some gun powders in loading .223 Win or Nato 5.56 AR-15 ammo. At any rate your using way to much. A teaspoon would be around what one would need for 6 gal. of water. Are you mixing for the pot size the plant is in? If so thats not how you do it,,, at all. Are there any instructions on the back of the package?
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Shit! I mixing too much then. Ok. I mixed based on the pot size three three gallons and one five gallon. I know this may sound silly and I wouldn’t do it for any other plants. Should I change out the dirt and give them new dirt to mitigate any further issues? @Blastfact
 
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Shit! I mixing too much then. Ok. I mixed based on the pot size three three gallons and one five gallon. I know this may sound silly and I wouldn’t do it for any other plants. Should I change out the dirt and give them new dirt to mitigate any further issues? @Blastfact
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Just water them to a good flush. And don't go crazy with the flush. The damage is done. Looks like mostly lower leaves. And don't feed them for the next couple of waterings. Changing soil out will be brutal on them, not needed. If you have the Stage 3 Plant Booster I would mix up a quarter teaspoon of that stuff to 5 gal. of water and flush with that. It has no "N" and will be keeping P/K in the pot. You don't want to wash out all the "N".
 
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Just water them to a good flush. And don't go crazy with the flush. The damage is done. Looks like mostly lower leaves. And don't feed them for the next couple of waterings. Changing soil out will be brutal on them, not needed. If you have the Stage 3 Plant Booster I would mix up a quarter teaspoon of that stuff to 5 gal. of water and flush with that. It has no "N" and will be keeping P/K in the pot. You don't want to wash out all the "N".
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To prevent stretched out nodes, you need to give them more light during the transition to flowering stretch.
 
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