Npk help with liquid fertilizer

Pilted · Jun 19, 2023

Hello everyone, so my leaves are starting to get a darker tent of green and my feeding schedule has me putting in more nitrogen then I think it should be at this stage.

Fox farm liquid nutrients. Everything is per gallon.

This is what it is suggesting

Big grow 6-4-4 1 tsp/5 mil
Tiger bloom 2-8-4 2 tsp/10 mil
Big bloom 0-0.5-0.7 3 tsp/15 mil
Boomerang 2-0.2-0.3 1 tsp/5 mil
Bembe 0-1-3 3 tsp/15 mil
Cal-mag 1-0-0 1 tsp/5 mil

Now I wanna cut the nitrogen back so I was thinking on adjusting this, to this.

Tiger bloom 2-8-4 2 tsp/10 mil ( no change)
Big bloom 0-0.5-0.7 6 tsp/30 mil ( increase by 3 tsp)
Bembe 0-1-3 3 tsp/15 mil ( no change)
Cal-mag 1-0-0 1/2 tsp/2.5 mil.

Does that seem right? I wanna reduce N but keep P and K same. I am losing some P and K in this though.

Any better options with these ferts you can see to accomplish reducing N without changing P and K?

I'm kinda lost here so help would be highly appreciated. the light color in the middle of the heads is tricones building not lightening of the leaves.

Pilted · Jun 19, 2023

I couldn't really get a good pic of the leaf it's not as dark as it seems in that picture.

Pilted · Jun 19, 2023

Hmm I think increasing the bembe by a Tsp would help me get a little P and K back maybe reduce the big bloom by one also, that would I believe make me just a little short on P and close to same K, I don't think I'm going to continue using fox farm after this grow.

Pilted · Jun 20, 2023

Well it's water time, and after many many hours researching NPK I have decided a reduced NPK at 3-14.3-11.1 closest I could get to a 1:3:2 ratio. Thanks for the help @ no one.

Itscheese94 · Jun 20, 2023

Pilted said:
Hello everyone, so my leaves are starting to get a darker tent of green and my feeding schedule has me putting in more nitrogen then I think it should be at this stage.

Fox farm liquid nutrients. Everything is per gallon.

This is what it is suggesting

Big grow 6-4-4 1 tsp/5 mil
Tiger bloom 2-8-4 2 tsp/10 mil
Big bloom 0-0.5-0.7 3 tsp/15 mil
Boomerang 2-0.2-0.3 1 tsp/5 mil
Bembe 0-1-3 3 tsp/15 mil
Cal-mag 1-0-0 1 tsp/5 mil

Now I wanna cut the nitrogen back so I was thinking on adjusting this, to this.

Tiger bloom 2-8-4 2 tsp/10 mil ( no change)
Big bloom 0-0.5-0.7 6 tsp/30 mil ( increase by 3 tsp)
Bembe 0-1-3 3 tsp/15 mil ( no change)
Cal-mag 1-0-0 1/2 tsp/2.5 mil.

Does that seem right? I wanna reduce N but keep P and K same. I am losing some P and K in this though.

Any better options with these ferts you can see to accomplish reducing N without changing P and K?

I'm kinda lost here so help would be highly appreciated. View attachment 1996085 View attachment 1996086the light color in the middle of the heads is tricones building not lightening of the leaves. View attachment 1996087

i ruduce the n pilted like stated

Pilted · Jun 20, 2023

Itscheese94 said:
i ruduce the n pilted like stated

Yeah I just been following the schedule but I think fox farm feeding schedule pushes way to much N for way to long, plus the leaves getting the tiny of green that's moving towards what nitrogen toxicity looks like, I wanted to take some preemptive measures before I had problems. Will see how it goes. The whole figuring out the npk thing was something I was putting off way to long, I know have a much better understanding of it....... I think

Pilted · Jun 20, 2023

Pilted said:
Yeah I just been following the schedule but I think fox farm feeding schedule pushes way to much N for way to long, plus the leaves getting the tiny of green that's moving towards what nitrogen toxicity looks like, I wanted to take some preemptive measures before I had problems. Will see how it goes. The whole figuring out the npk thing was something I was putting off way to long, I know have a much better understanding of it....... I think

Tint of green*

Itscheese94 · Jun 20, 2023

Pilted said:
Yeah I just been following the schedule but I think fox farm feeding schedule pushes way to much N for way to long, plus the leaves getting the tiny of green that's moving towards what nitrogen toxicity looks like, I wanted to take some preemptive measures before I had problems. Will see how it goes. The whole figuring out the npk thing was something I was putting off way to long, I know have a much better understanding of it....... I think

i slowly work out the n if that helps

Pilted · Jun 20, 2023

Itscheese94 said:
i slowly work out the n if that helps

That feeding schedule was suggesting 13-23-23 at day 27 ish it's just too much N. Thank goodness my plant was whispering in my ear telling me hey it's too much N. Gotta listen to the lady she will tell you all you need to know. Lmao watch me be totally wrong and I get a bunch of deficiencies

Itscheese94 · Jun 20, 2023

Pilted said:
That feeding schedule was suggesting 13-23-23 at day 27 ish it's just too much N. Thank goodness my plant was whispering in my ear telling me hey it's too much N. Gotta listen to the lady she will tell you all you need to know. Lmao watch me be totally wrong and I get a bunch of deficiencies

yeh i dont mesure the plant will tell you what it needs.

Pilted · Jun 20, 2023

Itscheese94 said:
yeh i dont mesure the plant will tell you what it needs.

I'm kinda in love with the pro mix potting mix, I believe I read a post where you were talking about pro mix liquid ferts 5-15-5 first part of flower, 3-6-12 second part of flower. If I am not tripping and that wasn't you disregard message, but what soil are you using with the pro mix ferts if it was you?

Reason I ask is the promix has the 15% organic matter in it, does that build up a lot?

Pilted · Jun 20, 2023

Nevermind it was someone else my bad

FuriousStyles · Jun 20, 2023

Pilted said:
That feeding schedule was suggesting 13-23-23 at day 27 ish it's just too much N. Thank goodness my plant was whispering in my ear telling me hey it's too much N. Gotta listen to the lady she will tell you all you need to know. Lmao watch me be totally wrong and I get a bunch of deficiencies

The curled leaves tips in the first pic is a sure sign of too much N. Nice catch!

Pilted · Jun 20, 2023

Just noticed this right now, wasn't there yesterday. She was starting to yell at me, hope I dialed it back enough. Messing up my pretty leaves. I am assuming this is because of too much nutes, if anyone thinks this is something different please let me know.

Pilted · Jun 20, 2023

My run off PH took a pretty big hit this feeding also, went from 5.85 to 5.71 been consistent at 5.85, I'm watch her see what happens if still looking stressed in 4 days when she dries out I might run two gallons of 6.2 PH water through her then feed another 2 gallons at 6.2. idk will have to see how she does next couple days with reduced feed.

Itscheese94 · Jun 20, 2023

Pilted said:
I'm kinda in love with the pro mix potting mix, I believe I read a post where you were talking about pro mix liquid ferts 5-15-5 first part of flower, 3-6-12 second part of flower. If I am not tripping and that wasn't you disregard message, but what soil are you using with the pro mix ferts if it was you?

Reason I ask is the promix has the 15% organic matter in it, does that build up a lot?

promix sounds great to me. i use bio bizz soil

Trash_2002 · Jun 20, 2023

Pilted said:
My run off PH took a pretty big hit this feeding also, went from 5.85 to 5.71 been consistent at 5.85, I'm watch her see what happens if still looking stressed in 4 days when she dries out I might run two gallons of 6.2 PH water through her then feed another 2 gallons at 6.2. idk will have to see how she does next couple days with reduced feed.

Pilted said:
Hello everyone, so my leaves are starting to get a darker tent of green and my feeding schedule has me putting in more nitrogen then I think it should be at this stage.

Fox farm liquid nutrients. Everything is per gallon.

This is what it is suggesting

Big grow 6-4-4 1 tsp/5 mil
Tiger bloom 2-8-4 2 tsp/10 mil
Big bloom 0-0.5-0.7 3 tsp/15 mil
Boomerang 2-0.2-0.3 1 tsp/5 mil
Bembe 0-1-3 3 tsp/15 mil
Cal-mag 1-0-0 1 tsp/5 mil

Now I wanna cut the nitrogen back so I was thinking on adjusting this, to this.

Tiger bloom 2-8-4 2 tsp/10 mil ( no change)
Big bloom 0-0.5-0.7 6 tsp/30 mil ( increase by 3 tsp)
Bembe 0-1-3 3 tsp/15 mil ( no change)
Cal-mag 1-0-0 1/2 tsp/2.5 mil.

Does that seem right? I wanna reduce N but keep P and K same. I am losing some P and K in this though.

Any better options with these ferts you can see to accomplish reducing N without changing P and K?

I'm kinda lost here so help would be highly appreciated. View attachment 1996085 View attachment 1996086the light color in the middle of the heads is tricones building not lightening of the leaves. View attachment 1996087

Use flash for that leaf photo, will help.

No need to go crazy with runoff measurements, your plant looks healthy for 27days flowering!
I don't see a N toxicity at all neither burnt tips. You were doing it right, nothing wrong here.

That curly leave way down there just remove it, if it happens on others post a better picture of it, cheers

Pilted · Jun 20, 2023

Trash_2002 said:
Use flash for that leaf photo, will help.

No need to go anal with runoff measurements, your plant looks healthy for 27days flowering!
I don't see a N toxicity at all neither burnt tips. You were doing it right, nothing wrong here.

That curly leave way down there just remove it, if it happens on others post a better picture of it, cheers

Thanks, the lower leaves are the very first ones in the plants life to show any discoloring, well the water leaves got brown just before I flipped it lol. It's very early stages of too much N I been giving it a lot. It looks good still, I can not disagree with you there, but I'm trying to learn to see the signs of issue as early as possible. Looking back on my pictures after FuriousStyles pointed out the tips curling in, I should have spotted it earlier. Appreciate the encouraging words and maybe I am over thinking it, but the NPK has all been reduced thinking 13-23-23 was a little high, that's what I gave her the last two watering. The 5-14.5-11.1 seems like a more acceptable dosage.

Any which way, if it was an issue I caught it fairly early, if not I don't think she will mind a reduction of nutes, 5-14.5-11.1 seems decent for another week or two, then will probably reduce the N more.

Trash_2002 · Jun 20, 2023

Pilted said:
Thanks, the lower leaves are the very first ones in the plants life to show any discoloring, well the water leaves got brown just before I flipped it lol. It's very early stages of too much N I been giving it a lot. It looks good still, I can not disagree with you there, but I'm trying to learn to see the signs of issue as early as possible. Looking back on my pictures after FuriousStyles pointed out the tips curling in, I should have spotted it earlier. Appreciate the encouraging words and maybe I am over thinking it, but the NPK has all been reduced thinking 13-23-23 was a little high, that's what I gave her the last two watering. The 5-14.5-11.1 seems like a more acceptable dosage. View attachment 1996630 View attachment 1996631 View attachment 1996632 View attachment 1996633 View attachment 1996634

Any which way, if it was an issue I caught it fairly early, if not I don't think she will mind a reduction of nutes, 5-14.5-11.1 seems decent for another week or two, then will probably reduce the N more.

Nice!
where you getting those NPK ratios ?
Where the 13-23-23 math came from?

Pilted · Jun 20, 2023

Trash_2002 said:
Nice!
where you getting those NPK ratios ?
Where the 13-23-23 math came from?

From the OP nutes some requiring more then 5 mil per gallon.

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