3G Labs said:

My apologies i should have gone into more detail, currently i'm doing coco grows .
The process i am trying to harness is a sugar sink. By feeding only water the last 14 days= the plant uses all the nutrients in the roots and begins to pull all the nutrients in the plants to "sink" area's. In essence the plant thinks it's dying, pumps all it's got from the roots,leaves,stems to the important area's (seed production/flowers). You also get the "fall colors" affect to the leaves, and buds (if it's got the genes)
http://www.sparknotes.com/biology/plants/essentialprocesses/section2.rhtml

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john martin said:

So, I grow in organic soil with organic nutes, yadda yadda ...

I have in the past tried many different flushing methods...

Some of the best smoke in my area comes from people that run 15 gallons of water through a 3 gallon pot all at once, and this is done 14 days before chop, then nothing but water is given.

With that said, I have recently had the valuable opportunity of hiring the guy who grew the absolute TASTIEST sour diesel I have ever had in my life hands down to come consult for me, and his advice to me on flushing was:

"2.5 weeks before chop, give them nothing but water, and have extremely minimal runoff."

Well, I have done my previous mentioned method 3 weeks before chop, 2 weeks before chop, 1 week before chop, tried flushing agents, etc., but I have always ran extra water through the medium in an effort to 'flush' the soil out.

I am thinking that the method he recommended to me may be more effective at flushing, because it doesn't wash out all the beneficial life out of the soil. I think in organic soil, with organic nutes that when you 'flush' as my previous method mentioned, you are washing out all the bacteria, but the soil is still left with tons of food that slowly, but surely remains breaking down.

I am thinking that with his 2.5 week pure water, no runoff method, that it stops adding new things to be broken down, but at the same time allows the beneficial bacteria in the soil to break down and use up what remains in the soil, so that by harvest time there is not much left.

I also am thinking that some sort of process occurs with this method that allows some process to occur in the soil that converts to the buds being much tastier.

I am sure there is a lot more to it than this, but with the quality of this guy's smoke (I mean 1 in 1,000, that GOOD... so good a penny pincher would HAPPILY pay an extra 100$ an ounce for just to have to smoke), there has to be something to his method.

This guy's smoke doesn't burn white like my friends who do a runoff flush, but it has a clean grey ash, tastes soooo smooth and sooooo amazing.

So, with that said, I would appreciate ANY feedback on all of this, and would also like to hear how any of you organic soil growers flush for maximum taste and for maximum smoothness.

Flaaaavaaaa Flaaaaaaav LOL

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john martin said:

So, I grow in organic soil with organic nutes, yadda yadda ...

I have in the past tried many different flushing methods...

Some of the best smoke in my area comes from people that run 15 gallons of water through a 3 gallon pot all at once, and this is done 14 days before chop, then nothing but water is given.

With that said, I have recently had the valuable opportunity of hiring the guy who grew the absolute TASTIEST sour diesel I have ever had in my life hands down to come consult for me, and his advice to me on flushing was:

"2.5 weeks before chop, give them nothing but water, and have extremely minimal runoff."

Well, I have done my previous mentioned method 3 weeks before chop, 2 weeks before chop, 1 week before chop, tried flushing agents, etc., but I have always ran extra water through the medium in an effort to 'flush' the soil out.

I am thinking that the method he recommended to me may be more effective at flushing, because it doesn't wash out all the beneficial life out of the soil. I think in organic soil, with organic nutes that when you 'flush' as my previous method mentioned, you are washing out all the bacteria, but the soil is still left with tons of food that slowly, but surely remains breaking down.

I am thinking that with his 2.5 week pure water, no runoff method, that it stops adding new things to be broken down, but at the same time allows the beneficial bacteria in the soil to break down and use up what remains in the soil, so that by harvest time there is not much left.

I also am thinking that some sort of process occurs with this method that allows some process to occur in the soil that converts to the buds being much tastier.

I am sure there is a lot more to it than this, but with the quality of this guy's smoke (I mean 1 in 1,000, that GOOD... so good a penny pincher would HAPPILY pay an extra 100$ an ounce for just to have to smoke), there has to be something to his method.

This guy's smoke doesn't burn white like my friends who do a runoff flush, but it has a clean grey ash, tastes soooo smooth and sooooo amazing.

So, with that said, I would appreciate ANY feedback on all of this, and would also like to hear how any of you organic soil growers flush for maximum taste and for maximum smoothness.

Flaaaavaaaa Flaaaaaaav LOL

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john martin said:

So, I grow in organic soil with organic nutes, yadda yadda ...

I have in the past tried many different flushing methods...

Some of the best smoke in my area comes from people that run 15 gallons of water through a 3 gallon pot all at once, and this is done 14 days before chop, then nothing but water is given.

With that said, I have recently had the valuable opportunity of hiring the guy who grew the absolute TASTIEST sour diesel I have ever had in my life hands down to come consult for me, and his advice to me on flushing was:

"2.5 weeks before chop, give them nothing but water, and have extremely minimal runoff."

Well, I have done my previous mentioned method 3 weeks before chop, 2 weeks before chop, 1 week before chop, tried flushing agents, etc., but I have always ran extra water through the medium in an effort to 'flush' the soil out.

I am thinking that the method he recommended to me may be more effective at flushing, because it doesn't wash out all the beneficial life out of the soil. I think in organic soil, with organic nutes that when you 'flush' as my previous method mentioned, you are washing out all the bacteria, but the soil is still left with tons of food that slowly, but surely remains breaking down.

I am thinking that with his 2.5 week pure water, no runoff method, that it stops adding new things to be broken down, but at the same time allows the beneficial bacteria in the soil to break down and use up what remains in the soil, so that by harvest time there is not much left.

I also am thinking that some sort of process occurs with this method that allows some process to occur in the soil that converts to the buds being much tastier.

I am sure there is a lot more to it than this, but with the quality of this guy's smoke (I mean 1 in 1,000, that GOOD... so good a penny pincher would HAPPILY pay an extra 100$ an ounce for just to have to smoke), there has to be something to his method.

This guy's smoke doesn't burn white like my friends who do a runoff flush, but it has a clean grey ash, tastes soooo smooth and sooooo amazing.

So, with that said, I would appreciate ANY feedback on all of this, and would also like to hear how any of you organic soil growers flush for maximum taste and for maximum smoothness.

Flaaaavaaaa Flaaaaaaav LOL

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caveman4.20 said:

The term flush is being mutilated, I've tried using the term rinse but ya I'm going to stay out of the "flush" threads from now on. good luck

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lukem5 said:

Has anyone separated the roots from the soil, and let it sit in a PH corrected solution of wtaer for a few weeks to flush it out?

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john martin said:

So, I grow in organic soil with organic nutes, yadda yadda ...

I have in the past tried many different flushing methods...

Some of the best smoke in my area comes from people that run 15 gallons of water through a 3 gallon pot all at once, and this is done 14 days before chop, then nothing but water is given.

With that said, I have recently had the valuable opportunity of hiring the guy who grew the absolute TASTIEST sour diesel I have ever had in my life hands down to come consult for me, and his advice to me on flushing was:

"2.5 weeks before chop, give them nothing but water, and have extremely minimal runoff."

Well, I have done my previous mentioned method 3 weeks before chop, 2 weeks before chop, 1 week before chop, tried flushing agents, etc., but I have always ran extra water through the medium in an effort to 'flush' the soil out.

I am thinking that the method he recommended to me may be more effective at flushing, because it doesn't wash out all the beneficial life out of the soil. I think in organic soil, with organic nutes that when you 'flush' as my previous method mentioned, you are washing out all the bacteria, but the soil is still left with tons of food that slowly, but surely remains breaking down.

I am thinking that with his 2.5 week pure water, no runoff method, that it stops adding new things to be broken down, but at the same time allows the beneficial bacteria in the soil to break down and use up what remains in the soil, so that by harvest time there is not much left.

I also am thinking that some sort of process occurs with this method that allows some process to occur in the soil that converts to the buds being much tastier.

I am sure there is a lot more to it than this, but with the quality of this guy's smoke (I mean 1 in 1,000, that GOOD... so good a penny pincher would HAPPILY pay an extra 100$ an ounce for just to have to smoke), there has to be something to his method.

This guy's smoke doesn't burn white like my friends who do a runoff flush, but it has a clean grey ash, tastes soooo smooth and sooooo amazing.

So, with that said, I would appreciate ANY feedback on all of this, and would also like to hear how any of you organic soil growers flush for maximum taste and for maximum smoothness.

Flaaaavaaaa Flaaaaaaav LOL

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john martin said:

I use roots organic line and make tea out of the dry amendments.

My friend that suggests to give nothing but water for 2.5 weeks follows similiar method.

My friends that do 'volume flushing' 2 weeks before chop also do teas.

(I use roots organic 'original' soil)

Only thing I dry scratch is the beneficial bacteria (oregonism xl).

Only non organic nutes I use is soul synthetics - amino aid, and bud swell.

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john martin said:

I use roots organic line and make tea out of the dry amendments.

My friend that suggests to give nothing but water for 2.5 weeks follows similiar method.

My friends that do 'volume flushing' 2 weeks before chop also do teas.

(I use roots organic 'original' soil)

Only thing I dry scratch is the beneficial bacteria (oregonism xl).

Only non organic nutes I use is soul synthetics - amino aid, and bud swell.

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redbud said:

"My Friend" hehehe, yeah and the cops will believe this one.

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Seamaiden said:

Why are you flushing when you're ostensibly growing organically?? I don't flush, EVER. Why? I'm not using the kinds of fertilizers, minerals or nutrients that build up in the soil to the point of needing to be flushed (what a waste!). I feed the soil, too, not the plant.

And, think about this--how does one flush the earth when growing outdoors? One doesn't. One goes with it.

That life can't just be "washed" out of the soil. I think both of you should get to reading. Start with Teaming With Microbes. There's a lot of good information in there and I really think it'll help you guys better understand the processes you're trying to harness.

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cheapbudsgrowroom said:

Yea but earth isn't adding fertilizers n foods

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Mikedin said:

True organic is the the same as nature, we don’t add any type of salts or synthetics, we use cover crops, organic matter like leaves from trim or defols, barley, EWC / worms , rock dust etc it’s all organic matter, flushing does nothing except saturate your soil, Now if he was supplementing with synthetics (it wouldn’t be organic anyways then) but then you’d have to flush (well “have to” is a strong term, a lot of people don’t)

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cheapbudsgrowroom said:

Ok I'm in a situation right now. I started feeding this week n I'm trying to figure out the right dose for greenleaf nutrients organic plant food. Ok I over fed n now my leafs are looking ruff. How can I fix this n how do I figure out what I'm actually supposed to give them so I don't do it again

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cheapbudsgrowroom said:

This is them

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