Out door , in the ground, no support yet

Soybeansaregreat · Jul 8, 2025

Outdoor, in the ground Don Carlos photoperiod. Getting big! I do have a rain cover over it so have to irrigate myself.

1: When do I start trimming ?

2: How to support? I’m thinking one of the premade webbing.

3: I added lots of coffee ground/leaves compost to soil. Hope not too much nitrogen.

Oldchucky · Jul 8, 2025

Soybeansaregreat said:
Outdoor, in the ground Don Carlos photoperiod. Getting big! I do have a rain cover over it so have to irrigate myself.

1: When do I start trimming ?

2: How to support? I’m thinking one of the premade webbing.

3: I added lots of coffee ground/leaves compost to soil. Hope not too much nitrogen.

Grew three Don Carlos a couple years ago! It was good! When I was letting them grow straight up, I found that the five post or bamboo method works best for me! One to support the main stalk, and four spaced out around the plant! Then run support twine or whatever back-and-forth between the post to take the weight off of branches, especially in flower! But like everything there are a lot of ways! I think defoliating is climate specific! I don’t live in your climate! Your plants look healthy! The hardest part is dialing in the watering! You may have a little bit of work to do on that yet! So far so good!

GeorgeJ10 · Jul 8, 2025

Soybeansaregreat said:
Outdoor, in the ground Don Carlos photoperiod. Getting big! I do have a rain cover over it so have to irrigate myself.

1: When do I start trimming ?

2: How to support? I’m thinking one of the premade webbing.

3: I added lots of coffee ground/leaves compost to soil. Hope not too much nitrogen.

Looking great! Start light trimming soon, webbing is a solid support choice, and just watch for nitrogen claw from the compost, otherwise, you’re good to go!

Soybeansaregreat · Jul 8, 2025

Oldchucky said:
Grew three Don Carlos a couple years ago! It was good! When I was letting them grow straight up, I found that the five post or bamboo method works best for me! One to support the main stalk, and four spaced out around the plant! Then run support twine or whatever back-and-forth between the post to take the weight off of branches, especially in flower! But like everything there are a lot of ways! I think defoliating is climate specific! I don’t live in your climate! Your plants look healthy! The hardest part is dialing in the watering! You may have a little bit of work to do on that yet! So far so good!

Thank you

Soybeansaregreat · Jul 8, 2025

GeorgeJ10 said:
Looking great! Start light trimming soon, webbing is a solid support choice, and just watch for nitrogen claw from the compost, otherwise, you’re good to go!

Yep, i will start light trimming for airflow.

Soybeansaregreat · Jul 8, 2025

GeorgeJ10 said:
Looking great! Start light trimming soon, webbing is a solid support choice, and just watch for nitrogen claw from the compost, otherwise, you’re good to go!

Is 4 in or 6 in square webbing preferred?

Hossgrows · Jul 8, 2025

I'm caging with garden fence. Allows me to direct the branches thru, for support. I can either spider webb, or do a second cage, once they go into stretch.

GeorgeJ10 · Jul 9, 2025

Hossgrows said:
I'm caging with garden fence. Allows me to direct the branches thru, for support. I can either spider webb, or do a second cage, once they go into stretch.

Nice setup! That garden fence works great for support and training. You’ve got options, spider webbing the cage or adding a second layer during stretch will really help keep those branches upright once buds start packing on. Looking healthy!

defective · Jul 9, 2025

Soybeansaregreat said:
Outdoor, in the ground Don Carlos photoperiod. Getting big! I do have a rain cover over it so have to irrigate myself.

1: When do I start trimming ?

2: How to support? I’m thinking one of the premade webbing.

3: I added lots of coffee ground/leaves compost to soil. Hope not too much nitrogen.

I don’t want to be a Debbie downer, but it looks a little stressed to me…the way those leaf stems are doing that rainbow thing…the only time I’ve seen that was when I had a plant in a plastic pot and the sun was cooking my roots. Coffee grounds are pretty acidic. Otherwise nice big green bush….i still ended up with a decent harvest off the one I mentioned btw.

Soybeansaregreat · Jul 10, 2025

defective said:
I don’t want to be a Debbie downer, but it looks a little stressed to me…the way those leaf stems are doing that rainbow thing…the only time I’ve seen that was when I had a plant in a plastic pot and the sun was cooking my roots. Coffee grounds are pretty acidic. Otherwise nice big green bush….i still ended up with a decent harvest off the one I mentioned btw.

Research has been done on using used coffee grounds. It’s an old misconception that they will acidify the soil. I have used a compost made from shredded leaves and used coffee grounds for years. Have had no problems.

defective · Jul 10, 2025

Soybeansaregreat said:
Research has been done on using used coffee grounds. It’s an old misconception that they will acidify the soil. I have used a compost made from shredded leaves and used coffee grounds for years. Have had no problems.

Composted coffee grounds is another story…

Hossgrows · Jul 10, 2025

I dump my coffee grinds and eggshells weekly, since they went into the ground as seedlings, with no problem. Non composted. Outdoor in ground gives u a buffer in my opinion. The amount of organic nitrogen with what I've put in the soil, would probably kill a plant or at least cause lock out, if it was synthetic. Probably be more of a salt issue I'd expect .

Soybeansaregreat · Jul 11, 2025

When coffee is brewed, most of the acidity goes into the brewed coffee, leaving the used grounds less acidic.

I have to be careful using my used coffee grounds/leaves compost. Lots of nitrogen in it.

defective · Jul 11, 2025

Soybeansaregreat said:
When coffee is brewed, most of the acidity goes into the brewed coffee, leaving the used grounds less acidic.

I have to be careful using my used coffee grounds/leaves compost. Lots of nitrogen in it.

Just an observation, the tops of your plants are not “praying” the leaves are drooping…they look really healthy otherwise…I’m not saying it IS the coffee only that you there is something they’re not happy about. That’s up to you to figure out if you’re inclined, or just ride it out and see what happens…take it with a grain of salt, I don’t claim to be an expert, but I’ve seen a few issues throughout my years of growing…best of luck!

Oldchucky · Jul 11, 2025

Probably just watering! That can be tricky to learn! In my opinion, always err on the dry side! A little dry wilt can be corrected within an hour! You’ll get the hang of it! Hope you have enough season to get them close to the finish line! Look pretty good! and those covers can steal a lot of sunlight, and sometimes make the plant unhappy!

Soybeansaregreat · Jul 14, 2025

I think I over did it with when adding my high nitrogen rich compost. I usually don’t put as much as I did when preparing the soil bed this year.
I water with drip tubing with emitters spaced 12 in apart, with each emitter putting out about 1 gal/hour of water.

defective said:
Just an observation, the tops of your plants are not “praying” the leaves are drooping…they look really healthy otherwise…I’m not saying it IS the coffee only that you there is something they’re not happy about. That’s up to you to figure out if you’re inclined, or just ride it out and see what happens…take it with a grain of salt, I don’t claim to be an expert, but I’ve seen a few issues throughout my years of growing…best of luck!

thank you very much for bringing the leaves dropping to my attention. I can see it brings a tell tale sign to be aware of.
Today I checked the soil and it appeared pretty dry. I previously watered 8 days ago. I have thick straw on the bed. So I watered this bed. I have three runs of drip tubing in the bed. It had been running 2 hours when I took this picture. Leaves not dropping now.

defective · Jul 14, 2025

Soybeansaregreat said:
I think I over did it with when adding my high nitrogen rich compost. I usually don’t put as much as I did when preparing the soil bed this year.
I water with drip tubing with emitters spaced 12 in apart, with each emitter putting out about 1 gal/hour of water.

thank you very much for bringing the leaves dropping to my attention. I can see it brings a tell tale sign to be aware of.
Today I checked the soil and it appeared pretty dry. I previously watered 8 days ago. I have thick straw on the bed. So I watered this bed. I have three runs of drip tubing in the bed. It had been running 2 hours when I took this picture. Leaves not dropping now.

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There they are, looking great now!

Soybeansaregreat · Jul 17, 2025

GeorgeJ10 said:
Looking great! Start light trimming soon, webbing is a solid support choice, and just watch for nitrogen claw from the compost, otherwise, you’re good to go!

I got aphids on one of my plants still in veg. Any recommendations? Thanks

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