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HELLO ergent help ive started some seeds off and at early stage my soil is pro plus with abit of coco mixed I make a feed at around 5.6 vut the RUNOFF is way higher 7.1 I have tryed halfing my solutions and even lowering the ph but I get a high run off I had to flush at first and gave them time to recover starting it off with this stuff but my plants lookin unhealthy
They have started to go yellow in places along with claw like leafs the new growth has started to go light and one plant looks twisted plzz help guys
 
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i never fuck with run off in dirt..maybe a slurry test will tell you more..but I would think running a nute ph of 6-6.2 with that cut of coco and some bennie tea and things will take care of themselves.
 
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Eska,

Try to post some pictures if possible.

Flush with pH adjusted plain water, and avoid watering when the soil is overly damp.

How old are the plants?
Was the coco was well rinsed prior to mixing it into the soil?
What exactly are you "feeding" with? (please give numerical dosage)
Are you adjusting pH after fertilizers have been added to solution?

Nitrogen toxicity is sometimes exhibited in clawed leaves. Excess Nitrogen can also result in lockout of other nutrients, which might explain the yellowing.

When in doubt, transfer the plant into a larger container filled with lightly amended soil that has adequate aeration and earthworm castings. I'm assuming the plant is still young so transplanting into fresh soil is a great option.
 
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Thx for ur replies im using cana a and b bcuz root stimulater at half the strength the new growth is lime green and leaves look small but hard to tell now my water before adding nutes is avout 7.8 I add the butes with a touch of lime to stable it to 5.6 ???
 
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Sounds like overwatering/over fertilizer causing lockout. But without more info who can say. Your pro plus soil is amended with lime which pulls your runoff pH up. This is normal. Sounds like your chasing ghosts. When your soil gets dry. Water with some plain water pHd to around 6.
If you fear they are dying. Flush your soil with plain pHd water.
Best of luck. Peace
 
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I tryed posting a pic wont pet me I started of with gold lable 60/40 mix vut had the same probpem I flushed them and left them still too high so I decided to get the canna coco proplus and mixed both transplanted the plants and have got canna a and b and bcuz I dilute around 8ml in 5 liter which is just under half there about two week in and showing signs of new growth turning yellow and a little bit smalle one plant has a twisted leaf I just dont no whats going on is it the ph whats causing it and if so why is the run off higher ???
 
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Posted a pic plss anyone no the probpem
 

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The temperature ok now and I have got a fan blowing over them the 600 watt light in a tent which is half way from top ??
 
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8ml per five liter of water ive already halfed it
 
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Two week old
 
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My latest picture is this a better one Can anyone identify the problem
 

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So what about the run off been too high than the input? ?? I normaly not seeing run off as im watering about a cup and it all soak up in soil I dont want to water too much as the probpems they had mate
 
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To me, the plants seem to have a few things going on with them.

A couple things comes to mind to salvage the plants:
-Make sure the lights are not too close to the canopy. With highly stressed plants it's less detrimental to have the plant slightly under-illuminated rather than baking under the light.

-Ensure that environmental factors are in check.... Try to keep it under 84F and above 55F at all times. Monitor the relative humidity as well in the room. Since you're still in the seedling stage, you can run pretty high (55-70%) on humidity without much concern. Make sure to reduce the relative humidity a few weeks after flowering has been initiated. Make sure a fan is not blowing directly on the young plants, use indirect air circulation.

-Transplant the seedlings into a soil mix with 50/50 perlite. The perlite will help increase oxygen content in the rhizosphere, and result in new root growth. The plants need to focus on the improving the root system. If you take one thing away from my response, it should be that the root zone of those plants needs attention. I have never used B'Cuzz's root product, so i can't offer any experiential advice on that topic. I can say that there are a plethora of mycorrhizal innoculants on the market, and the top ones (without getting too deep into fungi/bacteria) are Great White, OG BioWar, and Xtreme Gardening. Note that these products are most efficient in mediums that are not saturated with synthetic fertilizers.

-Avoid using high nitrogen fertilizers on rooting plants, or plants that have just been replanted. Like all elements in a fertilizer, nutrient solutions with too much Nitrogen can really screw a young plant up.

In a nutshell i would do the following to attempt to get them on the right path:
-Ensure all environmental conditions are within specifications
-Step up the dosages on mycorrhizal innoculations
-Flush the medium with a product made to bond to salts. (EX: Florakleen, Clearex, etc..)
-Begin fertilization again at 33% strength once medium has sufficiently dried from flushing
-Do not rush the growth of the plant. It is stressed and needs to grow roots before it will grow foliage. It might sit "dormant" for a week or two before growth becomes normal again, but the plant is growing new roots.
-After plant stabilizes and starts to grow again you might try supplementing with General Organics Cal-Mag + to see if growth greens up a bit
-Make earthworm casting teas and apply bi-weekly

I hope any of this information is helpful to ya, Eska.
 
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Hello since then I have had transplanted and they started gaining progress untill now im using a cap mag foliar spray and this has started to have yellow patches
 
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