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Greetings friends, today I am prepping to test a hypothesis.
I believe that a freshly germinated seed, with just tip of a taproot exposed, can be inserted in a crevice carved into the stem of an established plant,
and in a process similar to / identical to grafting, will fuse into the mother.

This would be beneficial for growing autoflowers indoors specifically in that you could take a photoperiod in veg as a super root system, bypassing the autoflowers need to "hurry and
dig".

For this initial experiment, I am going to be using a freshly harvested, transplanted Crystal Candy auto. It has already been stripped down to a short main stalk and 4 side branches. I have grafted in 5 strains. (Pictured)

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3 (the longer ones, obviously - DieselBerry, Witch Wedding?, Pink Mist) were done using slit/match/tape method (cut rootstock and scion end down middle so they look like this ==< >=== then fit them together, like ...?lesbians scissoring? if anyone can think of a better simile, I'll edit... those 3 are pretty droopy, which is to be expected, spraying with nutritive spray and hopeful.
The other 2, I'm using a dif graft method, which I thought of myself, which isnt to say that I'm the first, I've just never read about it but I'm sure it exists:
I cut the main stalk down to where its nice and wide, and theres the cavity in middle of woody stalk. I take a knife and open it up just a little more, and took the smallest little shoot from a side branch and fed it into the hole. These are absolutely thriving overnight with zero droopage (vasculation? is that right term?) also the clones pictured are JUST cheap root powder and soil and foliar spray. I havent lost a single on out of m. If i was using a propagator I always lose 20% but that just may be my fault. prolly is lol. anyway
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The seed I am using is the single seed I harvested from the Crystal Candy auto and a controlled pollination with a Super Sour male. I cannot find consistent data on mamas lineage, autos bred and stabilized from 2 autos have greater likelihood to produce autos with photos, but it doesn't matter if this comes out auto - im just doing an initial test..

the point of growing autos in this way on photoperiod indoor plants is that it allows you to keep a rootstock alive without flowering, yet getting flower off it.
I plan on keeping a few chimera mothers indoors this winter for the purpose of preserving genetics for next years outdoor, and itd be nice if I could manage to flower some branches in the same room in the process!
 
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this is the rootstock, prior to identifying 2 failures and replacing with tiny auto shoots, will picture next.
 

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Center and coming towards camera are auto shoots, inserted, not whip grafted.
 

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I'm thinking of making the slice in the crotch between main stalk and thickest shoot. Thoughts?
 
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Dude this is wild! Coming from a very Industrious AG area that does a lot a grafting of trees this is way cool!
mellingwood91 said:
I'm thinking of making the slice in the crotch between main stalk and thickest shoot. Thoughts?
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I say run it! I was thinking that if anything maybe make the incision just above the crotch on the thickest shoot
 
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mellingwood91 said:
I'm thinking of making the slice in the crotch between main stalk and thickest shoot. Thoughts?
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Go ahead and try it i'd love to see if it works
 
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mellingwood91 said:
I'm thinking of making the slice in the crotch between main stalk and thickest shoot. Thoughts?
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I'm pretty blown away right now lol, I'll definitely be staying tuned to see what happens.
I say leave it be for now, see what happens with what you have done before implementing more stress.
 
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BearWater said:
Dude this is wild! Coming from a very Industrious AG area that does a lot a grafting of trees this is way cool!

I say run it! I was thinking that if anything maybe make the incision just above the crotch on the thickest shoot
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That was another thought. Or, since the stuff n fit graft worked so well (tiny shoot in fat branch bored out), may go there. I have until seed germinates to decide
 
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I'm pretty blown away right now lol, I'll definitely be staying tuned to see what happens.
I say leave it be for now, see what happens with what you have done before implementing more stress.
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@mellingwood91 I’m going with Newty on this one! I think waiting a minute might do it some good!
 
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That was another thought. Or, since the stuff n fit graft worked so well (tiny shoot in fat branch bored out), may go there. I have until seed germinates to decide
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Ok it sounds like you have that time Newty was talking about (maybe. Maybe he ment wait longer) either way im here to watch this!
 
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Actually, going with this firmly established Special Queen to be the test mama. She's still in veg for week or so
 

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If it works ill take greater care in selecting and prep. But stories of seeds growing out of buds have me convinced
 
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Ok it sounds like you have that time Newty was talking about (maybe. Maybe he ment wait longer) either way im here to watch this!
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My thought was inducing more stress might mess with the seed germination or something.
If they have a few days until the seed germinates to decide whether to make a cut in a vital spot, I would watch them for the next few days and see if there's positive progress and if so, by all means go for it!
 
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Clearly this is an exciting concept. I could not wait for mystery seed to sprout, nor did I have to. I took a Honey Cream seedling. No capillaries yet, just tap. I fed entire white into long slit, sprayed. Tape or nay what say ye
 
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Here
 

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Well this is super cool for sure will follow to see I hope this works it’s awesome
 
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Yay. Time n prayers. Praise Jesus
 

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She's opening up! Tucked under a fan for shade and humidity. It's been a nice rainy cool moist couple days and nights. Perfect conditions
 

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Thats pretty cool man!
 
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