Eledin said:

Also many times nutes can mess the ph of the water. Specially if you have organic nutes and they ferment but not exclusively. Some brands use fermented kelp or plant juice and their liquids have a low ph by default. And many supplements might also acidify or alkalinize your water or your soil so you gotta test it after adding the nutes to the water too.

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LoveGrowingIt said:

Do you mean N (nitrogen) instead of Na (sodium)? The downward curling leaf tips indicate nitrogen toxicity (excess). The leaves also look dark green to me, which also indicates N toxicity. Stop feeding nitrogen and water with plain water. During flowering, P (phosphorous) and K (potassium) should be increased to promote bud development, but not yet.

Do you know what caused this damage?
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I'm also wondering about that white spot. That could be insect damage.


Do you mean these?
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I recall seeing this on the forum, but I'm not quite remembering what caused it. IIRC, something blocked the light, preventing photosynthesis.


How are they getting natural light? Are they outside or in a window?

Lastly, I agree about adding perlite for your next grow. I also recommend using fabric pots.

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Eledin said:

Have you checked for bugs like @LoveGrowingIt suggested? The dots could be insect bites, or they could be caused by improper ph.

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Eledin said:

Hmm yes I think you should check the PH before we start ruling out other stuff, also the soil is probably wet for too long. If there is N toxicity I dont see it being the major problem still. The thing is that overwatering and N toxicity can look very similar when in early stages so we cant just say "its this for sure". The yellowing and dots are for sure not N toxicity.

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dropandheathersgrow said:

I would say it's over wartered

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70sguerrilla said:

Root bound is my opinion

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Eledin said:

Also the solution to ph is buying a ph down and a ph up, depending if you need one or both. Theyre very cheap because you dont need to use much. I recommend the general hydroponics ones. Avoid citric acid based ones, while citric acid can be really good for organic in small pots you can easily burn them.

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Eledin said:

I though about nitrogen toxicity but more than clawing its just the tips going down which makes me think its the soil staying wet for too long instead. Good eye, didnt see that dot.

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MJmadscientist said:

I’d second that on it being wet soil. That color isn’t bad enough for true nitrogen toxicity and the leaves usually twist vs claw when it’s bad. Also how thick are the leaves. If you got too much nitrogen but not quite hit the twisted leaves they usually get really thick

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Flanagan said:

Hey there! Got another photo taken just now. Please, what do you think it is?

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MJmadscientist said:

Can you change out that pot to a fabric or air pot?
The terra-cotta pot, a plastic, or any solid pot with a potting mix that holds a lot of water could be part of the issue after looking at the photo again this morning.
It might could stand to go to a larger pot as well. Water and the roots don’t have much place to go. Meaning fabric pots and more room the water would settle to the bottom and evaporate from the sides. This also lets the roots breath and air prunes them which will in tern mean a denser root ball.
While she will recover. This clawing could also be pre or just the very beginning of root rot. The roots can’t breath/uptake oxygen if they are standing in water. Leaves droop/show color changes.

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