Please help quick!!!!

DvD · Jul 21, 2010

Please Help
I Have # Plants Not Doing Good
I Was Thinking a PH Prob. But Not Sure
Seems To Be Dying From Bottom Up And Not A N Def. Either.
They Are Grown Outdoors But In Containers.
Maybe Be A Lack Of Water Maybe Also I Know
It's Been HOT!! Here In The SOuth
1 is a Galaxy Fem
1 Is A Rocklock Fem
1 Is A Local Purple Heirloom Strain
GX

PLS

LPS

RKLKCU

Any Help Would Be GReatly Appreciatied!!!!!
Sorry About The Pics And Thread
It's My 1st Problem

Tobor the 8th Man · Jul 21, 2010

When you went to visit them were they ever drooped from lack of water?

Have you fertilized them at all?

DvD · Jul 21, 2010

Yes 1 Was The Galaxy I Know Needed Some Water But
The Others No They Were Standing Straight Up

Yes I Did Fertilize THem A Few Days Ago
Then Just Noticed This 2 Days Ago.
So Maybe A Nut Lockout HuH?

Thanks Tabor For The Super Fast Reply!!!:rastadancing:

Tobor the 8th Man · Jul 21, 2010

Are they in natural soil or did you dig a hole and fill with a mix?

Did you ever do a ph test of the soil?

Are there pine trees in the area? Pine trees make acidic soil.

The good news is that the upper parts of the plants look nice. I think with a ph problem it would effect all the leaves. It's kinda crazy but that plant in the 4th pic if it was in a pot I would say it is pot bound.

DvD · Jul 21, 2010

Thanks So Much
Thats A Little Relief
No They Are In Containers With Roots Organic Cut With Pro Mix Soil
Yeah The 4th Might Be But The 2 Pics After It Are Of tHe Leaves From It
I Didn't Think Rootbound Would Put Brown Spots On The Leaves?It's In a 3-4 Gal. Pot
P.S No Pine Trees Thanx
It's Just Weird These 3 Giving Me Problems Out Of All The Others Are Doing Just Fine.
will put those up tomm.(Cheese,Trainwreck,Crystal Limit)

Thanks Again For Caring :)
Anytime I Can Return The Favor Let Me Know
And I'll Be On The LookOut

Smokey503ski · Jul 21, 2010

Looks like you kinda over watered the shit out of them last time you were there. Roots has a tendecy to water log due to there soil. Did you ad any perlite to your mix? Next time you water wait untill the leaves are sagging a little, then water.

DvD · Jul 22, 2010

Thanks Smokey
Yes I Did Add Perlite

Yeah I Try To Do That So They Get More Oxygen
But I Think I'm Starting To Realize It Might Be From Under Watering Them
Still Not 100% Sure Though
So I Flushed Them
I'll See What That Does And Keep You Guys Posted

Again Thanks For The Replys
Keep Them Coming:banana:
DvD

Seamaiden · Jul 22, 2010

I've seen something similar, but it was a Septoria infection (black spot). Vector is water splashing on the ground. Control is multiple cupric foliars and removal of all affected leaves, taking care not to splash any water (ground to foliage) when feeding/watering.

My other trees and landscape plants do that kind of yellowing if they need water, but almost never with the spotting I see on your girls.

waayne · Jul 22, 2010

DvD I would transplant those girls into larger pots of high quality organic potting soil.
good luck!

DvD · Jul 22, 2010

SEA Thanks for That Info.
That Might Just Be It Cause I Did Use My Garden Spayer To Water.
Waayne- Thats What I Plan To Do Tomm.
Put Them In 5 Gal Instead Of 3
So Do They'll Think I Messed Up When I Flushed Them Yesterday?
Maybe Root Rot
Anyway To SAve Them
Cause They Are Starting To Flower And I Know THat's The Hardest Time For A Plant So I Don't Want To Stress Them Anymore Than They Already Are?
But I Really Need To SAVE THEM!

Thanks Again Everyone
DvD:)

JPLord01 · Jul 22, 2010

If you are going to TPlant go big like a 45gl smart pot your plants will be happy. Look up
a good soil mix on the fourm and go from there.

420king-MASSES · Jul 24, 2010

there in buckets outdoors so my question is are you flushing your medium because that looks like defs or nute lock-out

DvD · Jul 24, 2010

Hey Thanks
That's Very Comforting Waayne
Yeah I Will Go Upto 10 Gal. Pots Right Now
Yeah I Learned That Lesson Last Year But It Wasn't The Heat Just Lack Of Weight Of Final Product

Now I Have Some Others In 7 Gal.
I Should Move Those To 10 Gal Then The 3 Gal to 7 Gal. Huh?

P.S. I Think I Might Have Solved It With Ya'lls Help
I Think It Is A Lack Of Water To The Bottom Roots And Burned Them In The Heat Even Though They Are In Thick Brush.
It's Getting 105 Heat Index Here And Very Little Rain So I Should Water Everyday Till I Put Them In Bigger Containers Then Everyother Day Maybe With 10 Gal.?
10 Is The Biggest I Can Find Around Here
Cost Too Much To Ship Alot Of 10 Gal.

Will Post Pics Soon To Show Progress
Cause They Are Starting To Turn Around Finally:party0042:
But Now I Have A PEST Problem
Somethings Done Chewed Right Through a Central Stalk On 1 Of My Purple Miss. Heirloom
And a Stem Off A Auto Diesel I Have Too
I Will Send A Pic And POst it Cause I Was Wondering If The Stalk Was Still Salvegable or if I Should Cut It Off.
I Hate To Do It Cause It The Top Of THe Main Stalk
Where The BEST Flowers Come From
What Could Eat Through Stalks?

Thanks Again
DvD

DvD · Jul 24, 2010

420king-MASSES said:
there in buckets outdoors so my question is are you flushing your medium because that looks like defs or nute lock-out

No I Wasn't Flushing Because I Didn't Think I Had To Flush Organics?
Yeah I Was Thinking A Nute Lockout From Too Much Of Something Or Wrong PH

Thanks
DvD

Seamaiden · Jul 24, 2010

DvD, if they are in nursery pots you MUST find a way to shield the pots, no matter what size you use. Cooking the roots looks an awful lot like they're hungry for nitrogen and a few other things, and as you're busily trying to fix them the roots are COOKING. Gotta insulate or find a way to reduce the heat on the pots themselves.

Don't worry about flushing at this point, especially if the pots are getting as hot as I think they are.

All kinds of animals will chew through the stalks, from yellow jackets to mice to rats to rabbits to deer. If it's very dry where you are then I would guess they're in search of moisture.

waayne · Jul 24, 2010

Hey DvD Seamaiden has a good point about cooking the roots!
I would transplant everything into larger pots ASAP,then dig holes so you can place your pots in them so the top of your pot is at ground level,you can then use some of the dirt you dug out of the holes to fill in around the pots,this will help keep the sun from cooking your roots, try to mulch them as well,you need to do everything you can to reduce their heat stress.
Go to a gun shop/hunting type store and get some predator urine IE wolf,coyote,fox,mountain lion,etc.put some of it all around your plant's,you will have to put out more especially after it rains,critters tend to stay away from the scent of their natural predators
If you are dealing with high temps gonna have to water more,cause them girls stressing for water in that kind of heat in a confined pot can't tolerate running out of water,>>>>>if you're looking for top quality and yield.
good luck!

farmerjohn · Jul 26, 2010

Cut away all infected foliage & see if it continues to affect the remaining or any new growth. As was already stated, it may be necrosis associated with ground water. Carefully water them after removing infected leaves, only when they are dry when you poke a finger down about 3" into the pots. Water carefully, without splashing on the leaves. That may take care of the problem. If not, you will see a continuation of leaves being affected & can proceed onto other areas, but know your watering routine is not responsible.

Please help quick!!!!

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